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Pacattack,
Great challenge!!...I look forward to following this...
I am snot sure how you come up with 26...I see 10 base bets, 10 high rollers, 10 doubles and 1 hot box...then I see the top 5..which the top 5 picks come from the 4 sections just mentioned....so it's still 31 picks...so really there are 36 - 5 top 5 ( since they are repeats ) = 31
Those five top picks are already in the mix. You would be playing them twice.
31 minus 5 = 26
I disagree...its 10 base, 10 high roller, 10 doubles, 1 hotbox and 5 top 5 36 minus 5 since they are repeats = 31..and we don't want to play them twice..
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Well...I just did a quick run on last night's numbers.
It isn't 31 numbers that you have to play. Her top five picks are just 5 numbers from 26 general numbers. Those five are the best of the 26. Those five are just a repeat within the 26 numbers
26 numbers+5 top picks=31.
If I had wagered at that off-shore place, with .50 cents straight/.50 boxed, I would have netted $110.00 last night. She had 3 box hits.
Cost: 26x$1.00x5 states=$130.00
Won: $240.00
Netted: $110.00
Not bad for doing relatively nothing. Imagine a straight hit thrown in the mix.
Three words come to mind:
Parlay,parlay,parlay.
First of all, it's ALWAYS ridiculous to go BACKWARDS and figure out how great a set of numbers WOULD have been.
The ONLY time you go back time in time is to BACKTEST a number system, and then you only do it for numerical comparisons and hit rate -- don't give me a bunch of bull about how much money you "would have made".
Now, on to business:
When I look at "Arlene's" numbers (using "Arlene" only because if I said "Don's" picks, nobody would know what I mean), I see a total of 41 picks: There are 6 "Box Hit Picks", 10 "Base Set Picks", 10 "High Roller Picks", 10 "Double Number Picks", and 5 "Top Picks". Simple math says 6 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 5 = 41, not 31.
So, according to "Arlene", there are 41 picks, but then all the sudden 10 of them don't count (I guess when they fail to hit anything).
OK, so you tell me, pacattack, which of the 41 picks are we NOT using for the test? I'm guessing that one of the "10 blocks" above "doesn't count" anymore, so you tell me which one.
Then, we'll FORWARD-TEST my theory. I'll put my 31 random numbers against "Arlene's" 31 numbers (the numbers that are left over after you take 10 away from "her" original list).
What states shall we play? You tell me, based on "Arlene's" most POWERFUL list of states. I don't care how many, just tell me which ones.
Then, once you establish which picks "Arlene" is playing, and which states we're going to play in, I'll post all 62 numbers in a post, and we can all track them over time. (For argument's sake, let's just say I'm good at guessing which numbers "Arlene" is playing.) I'm sure we'll be able to find some volunteers to match up the numbers over the week, and come up with hit ratios and prize ratios for either list.
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I don't understand why it's so difficult to break it down.
Let me put it another way. Let's say she only had five picks total.
For example:
512
738
289
974
889
And let's say she only had one hot pick. 738. Would she now have 6 picks?
Her hot pick is within the five, so you would be playing 738 twice.
Her five hot picks are within the other picks.
As far as the six box hits, I don't count them because I don't play them. Every other number, I would play straight/box, so playing her box hits each seperately, to me wouldn't make sense.
So it's 26 numbers, not 31. Her top 5 hot picks don't count because they are spread out within the other sub groups.
If you have her numbers then you should know the five states.
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Well...I just did a quick run on last night's numbers.
It isn't 31 numbers that you have to play. Her top five picks are just 5 numbers from 26 general numbers. Those five are the best of the 26. Those five are just a repeat within the 26 numbers
26 numbers+5 top picks=31.
If I had wagered at that off-shore place, with .50 cents straight/.50 boxed, I would have netted $110.00 last night. She had 3 box hits.
Cost: 26x$1.00x5 states=$130.00
Won: $240.00
Netted: $110.00
Not bad for doing relatively nothing. Imagine a straight hit thrown in the mix.
Three words come to mind:
Parlay,parlay,parlay.
First of all, it's ALWAYS ridiculous to go BACKWARDS and figure out how great a set of numbers WOULD have been.
The ONLY time you go back time in time is to BACKTEST a number system, and then you only do it for numerical comparisons and hit rate -- don't give me a bunch of bull about how much money you "would have made".
Now, on to business:
When I look at "Arlene's" numbers (using "Arlene" only because if I said "Don's" picks, nobody would know what I mean), I see a total of 41 picks: There are 6 "Box Hit Picks", 10 "Base Set Picks", 10 "High Roller Picks", 10 "Double Number Picks", and 5 "Top Picks". Simple math says 6 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 5 = 41, not 31.
So, according to "Arlene", there are 41 picks, but then all the sudden 10 of them don't count (I guess when they fail to hit anything).
OK, so you tell me, pacattack, which of the 41 picks are we NOT using for the test? I'm guessing that one of the "10 blocks" above "doesn't count" anymore, so you tell me which one.
Then, we'll FORWARD-TEST my theory. I'll put my 31 random numbers against "Arlene's" 31 numbers (the numbers that are left over after you take 10 away from "her" original list).
What states shall we play? You tell me, based on "Arlene's" most POWERFUL list of states. I don't care how many, just tell me which ones.
Then, once you establish which picks "Arlene" is playing, and which states we're going to play in, I'll post all 62 numbers in a post, and we can all track them over time. (For argument's sake, let's just say I'm good at guessing which numbers "Arlene" is playing.) I'm sure we'll be able to find some volunteers to match up the numbers over the week, and come up with hit ratios and prize ratios for either list.
So, how about it?
Ok Todd...I think I'm ready. A total of 30 picks in those five states of hers.
You pick 30, with your own states. And then the volunteers will come forth with the verification, as you mentioned.
Let's get rolling......This should be enlightning, but my gut feelings are correct approx. 80% of the time.
Sorry about my mix up. Heinekens and addition don't work well together.
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Well I dont' want to say much but, I hit on her play 4 Sunday in Mass. and also today in NJ so it's 2 to 2 now....keep trying I might start slow but, once I start going I will wiz by you over and over again and you can take that to the bank in a sports car!!!
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Well...I just did a quick run on last night's numbers.
It isn't 31 numbers that you have to play. Her top five picks are just 5 numbers from 26 general numbers. Those five are the best of the 26. Those five are just a repeat within the 26 numbers
26 numbers+5 top picks=31.
If I had wagered at that off-shore place, with .50 cents straight/.50 boxed, I would have netted $110.00 last night. She had 3 box hits.
Cost: 26x$1.00x5 states=$130.00
Won: $240.00
Netted: $110.00
Not bad for doing relatively nothing. Imagine a straight hit thrown in the mix.
Three words come to mind:
Parlay,parlay,parlay.
First of all, it's ALWAYS ridiculous to go BACKWARDS and figure out how great a set of numbers WOULD have been.
The ONLY time you go back time in time is to BACKTEST a number system, and then you only do it for numerical comparisons and hit rate -- don't give me a bunch of bull about how much money you "would have made".
Now, on to business:
When I look at "Arlene's" numbers (using "Arlene" only because if I said "Don's" picks, nobody would know what I mean), I see a total of 41 picks: There are 6 "Box Hit Picks", 10 "Base Set Picks", 10 "High Roller Picks", 10 "Double Number Picks", and 5 "Top Picks". Simple math says 6 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 5 = 41, not 31.
So, according to "Arlene", there are 41 picks, but then all the sudden 10 of them don't count (I guess when they fail to hit anything).
OK, so you tell me, pacattack, which of the 41 picks are we NOT using for the test? I'm guessing that one of the "10 blocks" above "doesn't count" anymore, so you tell me which one.
Then, we'll FORWARD-TEST my theory. I'll put my 31 random numbers against "Arlene's" 31 numbers (the numbers that are left over after you take 10 away from "her" original list).
What states shall we play? You tell me, based on "Arlene's" most POWERFUL list of states. I don't care how many, just tell me which ones.
Then, once you establish which picks "Arlene" is playing, and which states we're going to play in, I'll post all 62 numbers in a post, and we can all track them over time. (For argument's sake, let's just say I'm good at guessing which numbers "Arlene" is playing.) I'm sure we'll be able to find some volunteers to match up the numbers over the week, and come up with hit ratios and prize ratios for either list.
So, how about it?
Ok Todd...I think I'm ready. A total of 30 picks in those five states of hers.
You pick 30, with your own states. And then the volunteers will come forth with the verification, as you mentioned.
Let's get rolling......This should be enlightning, but my gut feelings are correct approx. 80% of the time.
Sorry about my mix up. Heinekens and addition don't work well together.
What are Arlene's states? Once you give me the five states, I'll start this thing in another thread so that it can get some "breathing room".
By the way, dman is right about my Pick 4 test. I posted five Quick Picks for seven days, and I already have a straight/box hit plus a box hit. Arlene has just a box hit. But it's still early. I may pull ahead even further!
