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• lucky146

  

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  Hi Jack
  
  Yes - I am going to continue to play around with this technique for a while - perhaps in conjunction with other methods/games.
  
  BTW using this technique, I played $3 in NY take five yesterday but only got one number, so I guess it was a bust for me. Im not terribly crazy about this game, but it is a convenient game to play around in and test different theories.
  
  Oddly, yesterdays numbers were 23, 24, 25, 26, 29 - almost a straight LOL - and there were like six first place winners. Apparently, most of those winners picked the numbers themselves. WTF, who picks crazy numbers like those?
  
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  Quote: Originally posted by lucky146 on July 14, 2006

  Hi Jack
  
  Yes - I am going to continue to play around with this technique for a while - perhaps in conjunction with other methods/games.
  
  BTW using this technique, I played $3 in NY take five yesterday but only got one number, so I guess it was a bust for me. Im not terribly crazy about this game, but it is a convenient game to play around in and test different theories.
  
  Oddly, yesterdays numbers were 23, 24, 25, 26, 29 - almost a straight LOL - and there were like six first place winners. Apparently, most of those winners picked the numbers themselves. WTF, who picks crazy numbers like those?
  
  Lucky146
  
  
  

  It takes some fine tuning and tweaking, that's for sure.  Sorry you didn't do well on NY take 5.  Maybe you'll do better on NY lotto tonight.

  Best to you,

  Jack

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• Rip Snorter

  

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  Mixed bag yesterday.

  800 dollars Imaginary US wagered

  620 dollars Imaginary US won

  The bonus ball test was a complete bust, but a learning experience.  I haven't had time to digest it all, but I think I understand what happened and how to change it. 

  I said earlier the bonus balls were sneaky, the coyotes of the numbers games.  Yesterday I discovered that, like coyotes in my experience sometimes prove to be, they're sneakier than I thought.  They had a trick up their sleeves yesterday I hadn't noticed before.

   Pick 5 tests went better.  Yesterday would have gone into the positive side on the win/loss ratio if it hadn't been for the bonus ball test.  This, despite the fact I cut out the celestial coordinate piece of it all and just shotgunned it using three separate moon phase days, minus the pick 5 bonus ball games.

  Overall I'd call the Pick 5 results a moderate success and the bonus ball games a crash-and-burn.

  Rip Snorter Connecticut Cash 5 3 of 5 10-14-18-21-31 03-04-18-21-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Connecticut Cash 5 3 of 5 14-18-21-29-31 03-04-18-21-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Connecticut Cash 5 3 of 5 18-21-27-29-31 03-04-18-21-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Connecticut Cash 5 3 of 5 07-18-21-23-31 03-04-18-21-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Connecticut Cash 5 3 of 5 14-18-21-23-31 03-04-18-21-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Connecticut Cash 5 3 of 5 14-18-21-29-31 03-04-18-21-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Connecticut Cash 5 3 of 5 18-21-23-29-31 03-04-18-21-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 21-23-26-27-29 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 10-18-23-27-29 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-10-21-23-31 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 10-14-21-23-31 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 4 of 5 10-14-21-23-29 10-21-23-29-38 $150
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-18-21-23-29 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 4 of 5 07-10-21-23-29 10-21-23-29-38 $150
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 10-18-23-27-29 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-10-21-23-27 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 10-18-21-23-26 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-10-14-21-23 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-10-21-23-31 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 18-21-23-29-31 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-21-23-29-31 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-10-23-29-31 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Georgia Fantasy 5 3 of 5 10-23-27-29-31 10-21-23-29-38 $10
  Rip Snorter Kentucky Cashball 1 + 1 06-11-13-28, Cash Ball: 05 11-12-24-25, Cash Ball: 05 $2
  Rip Snorter Kentucky Cashball 1 + 1 05-11-28-31, Cash Ball: 05 11-12-24-25, Cash Ball: 05 $2
  Rip Snorter Kentucky Cashball 1 + 1 11-13-15-28, Cash Ball: 05 11-12-24-25, Cash Ball: 05 $2
  Rip Snorter Kentucky Cashball 1 + 1 06-07-11-15, Cash Ball: 05 11-12-24-25, Cash Ball: 05 $2
  Rip Snorter Maryland Bonus Match 5 3 of 5 07-10-14-18-21 03-08-10-18-21 $10
  Rip Snorter Maryland Bonus Match 5 3 of 5 10-14-18-21-31 03-08-10-18-21 $10
  Rip Snorter Maryland Bonus Match 5 3 of 5 10-18-21-23-26 03-08-10-18-21 $10
  Rip Snorter Michigan Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-10-27-29-31 09-10-27-30-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Michigan Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-10-27-29-31 09-10-27-30-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Michigan Fantasy 5 3 of 5 07-10-23-27-31 09-10-27-30-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Michigan Fantasy 5 3 of 5 10-23-27-29-31 09-10-27-30-31 $10
  Rip Snorter Multi-State Tri-State Triple Play 3 of 5 11-26-28-31-41 11-20-28-36-41 $10
  Rip Snorter Multi-State Tri-State Triple Play 3 of 5 11-15-28-31-41 11-20-28-36-41 $10
  Rip Snorter Multi-State Tri-State Triple Play 3 of 5 07-11-28-31-41 11-20-28-36-41 $10
  Rip Snorter New York Take 5 3 of 5 14-18-21-29-31 08-14-18-20-29 $10
  Rip Snorter New York Take 5 3 of 5 14-18-21-27-29 08-14-18-20-29 $10
  Rip Snorter New York Take 5 3 of 5 14-18-21-29-31 08-14-18-20-29 $10

  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

  It's about number behavior.

  Egos don't count.

   

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• Rip Snorter

  

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  Correction.

  I had 1697 bucks Imaginary US wagered yesterday and the wins were 620.  So the entire episode counts as a serious blow to the imaginary pocketbook and an indictment of both methods used yesterday. 

  I'd already posted another $800 in wagers for today on the bonus ball games, so I'm stuck with seeing another day of that method tested.  Maybe a two-day lag time will show something about the way the draws synchronize with bonus balls.  Hopefully something can be learned from what I suspect will be a major implosion.

  Might come up with something for the Pick 5s to test before the draws today, but I'll have to ponder a while what there is to be dredged out of yesterday and sifted for something to be learned from it.

  For sure I need to cut that GA Fantasy 5 out of the herd and try to figure what made it stand up on its hind legs and whinney while the other games yawned and tried to sleep.

  J

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  It's about number behavior.

  Egos don't count.

   

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• Rip Snorter

  

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  One thing's completely certain now.  I knew it before, but it was reinforced yesterday.

  Anytime you're using mixed game history to attempt to locate synchronizations between games, you have to pull out the bonus ball games.  Those operate on an entirely different schedule I'm (as demonstrated by the yesterday results) still trying to work out.

  Synchronizations frequently happen and last over several moon-phases, but they won't happen between a game with a bonus-ball and one that doesn't have one (except in a couple or three cases where the bonus ball matrix satisfies a particular set of criteria).  There's also cause to suspect the matrix of the bonus balls influence the cycle of recurrance within each individual moon phase.  In some cases the bonus ball matrix seems to be responsible for a skip of one or two years before recurring during the same day of the same moon phase/month.

  You might keep an eye on British Columbia 6/49 and Mega Millions.  There's an historic association there I have no understanding of at all.

  Jack

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• lucky146

  

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  Thanks for that update Jack.
  
  Using this technique I played $5 on Ny take five but only won a free game. Still not great but I am seeing a slightly higher than usual win rate than before. (3 days of play 2/5 numbers on two days). Also I would have gotten 3/5 yesterday if I had wheeled in that number from my pool of numbers taken from the star coordinates.
  
  Also bizzarely, the same few states seem to come up as my sync lotteries. I think you may be right though, this technique requires a lot of subtle tweaking and tuning.
  
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  In trying to understand what can be learned from the bonus ball behavior tries yesterday, and if I hadn't already filled my prediction quota for PB, I'd be wheeling the following whites based on moon phase data, no stellar coordinates nor azimuths in the mix:

   

   White balls:

  1

  2

  10

  14

  20

  29

  32

  34

  40

  48

  Here are the red balls I'd give the best shot at by the same methods:

  Red ball

  1

  10

  14

  20

  40

  The 1 looks best from one perspective, the 10, 14 and 20, from another entirely different one.  The 40 looks best in two of the three methods used.

  J

   

   

   

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  It's about number behavior.

  Egos don't count.

   

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• Rip Snorter

  

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   If anyone else is reading this, ignore it  if it bothers you.  I'm just trying to keep my head on straight here

   

   So I can remember this

  Method C and C1

   Give me these numbers for WB

  1 2 5 6 17 36 41

   1 2 5 6 17 20 29 32 34 36 40 41 48

  34, 40, 41 most likely as red balls.
  

   

   

  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

  It's about number behavior.

  Egos don't count.

   

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• Rip Snorter

  

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  I've been pondering that Georgia Fantasy 5 hit series yesterday and it finally dawned on me.  Its not about Celestial Coordinates and Moon Phases, but it might eventually lead to that, or make it easier.

  This might work for any Premium LP Member in finding lotteries in sinc with your own, then even discovering some running a day ahead of yours:

  • Take the last two draws from your lottery and wheel the numbers.
  • Run the wheel up across the board, every pick 5 or pick 6 lottery on the day following the numbers you wheeled.
  • Make note of all the games where your numbers got a 3 of 5, or 4 of 6, assuming some do.
  • Then go to each of those lotteries, taking the last two draws and wheel the numbers, posting them as predictions for your own lottery.  This will take several days, one day for each lottery, but might well give you a method of discovering something you haven't noticed before.  Namely, a lottery or three running one day ahead of your own, but otherwise in sinc with it.

  I haven't tried this yet, but I intend to.

  Jack

   

   

   

   

  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

  It's about number behavior.

  Egos don't count.

   

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• Rip Snorter

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Rip Snorter on July 15, 2006

   If anyone else is reading this, ignore it  if it bothers you.  I'm just trying to keep my head on straight here

   

   So I can remember this

  Method C and C1

   Give me these numbers for WB

  1 2 5 6 17 36 41

   1 2 5 6 17 20 29 32 34 36 40 41 48

  34, 40, 41 most likely as red balls.
  

   

   

  There's one chunk of testing lost radar contact and vanished off the screens.  No point in dredging the lakes and sending divers to try to find the in-flight recorders on that one.

   

  Powerball

  20-35-36-47-50, Powerball: 05, Power Play: 4

  Sat, Jul 15, 2006

  Wed, Sat

  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

  It's about number behavior.

  Egos don't count.

   

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• Rip Snorter

  

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  Every test I ran yesterday (the bulk of which were bonus ball method tests from the previous day) can be counted as negative learning experience.  Those Thursday/Friday methods ain't worth talking about.

  I don't even remember what I was trying to test on the Illinois and Texas games.

  The sniff of hope left in bonus ball methodology came with Kentucky and Kansas.  Those were two of the relatively few bonus ball games I had room to try anything with because I'd filled up all the prediction slots with the Thursday/Friday brainstorm.

   

  Rip Snorter	Atlantic Canada	Atlantic 6/49	3 of 6	03-05-11-31-35-46	02-03-05-35-39-40	$5
  Rip Snorter	Illinois	Lotto	3 of 6	05-11-15-28-39-46	06-17-28-39-46-51	$5
  Rip Snorter	Illinois	Lotto	3 of 6	06-11-16-28-42-46	06-17-28-39-46-51	$5
  Rip Snorter	Illinois	Lotto	3 of 6	06-11-13-28-39-45	06-17-28-39-46-51	$5
  Rip Snorter	Illinois	Lotto	3 of 6	03-06-11-31-39-46	06-17-28-39-46-51	$5
  Rip Snorter	Kansas	Super Kansas Cash	3 + 0	14-15-17-22-24, Cash Ball: 03	08-14-17-23-24, Cash Ball: 12	$2
  Rip Snorter	Kentucky	Cashball	3 + 0	01-09-29-30, Cash Ball: 02	01-23-29-30, Cash Ball: 07	$50
  Rip Snorter	Kentucky	Cashball	2 + 0	01-15-27-29, Cash Ball: 29	01-23-29-30, Cash Ball: 07	$1
  Rip Snorter	Kentucky	Cashball	2 + 0	01-12-20-29, Cash Ball: 25	01-23-29-30, Cash Ball: 07	$1
  Rip Snorter	Kentucky	Cashball	3 + 0	01-18-29-30, Cash Ball: 18	01-23-29-30, Cash Ball: 07	$50
  Rip Snorter	Kentucky	Cashball	2 + 0	01-20-29-31, Cash Ball: 25	01-23-29-30, Cash Ball: 07	$1
  Rip Snorter	Kentucky	Cashball	2 + 0	01-18-30-31, Cash Ball: 29	01-23-29-30, Cash Ball: 07	$1
  Rip Snorter	Kentucky	Cashball	2 + 0	01-19-30-31, Cash Ball: 02	01-23-29-30, Cash Ball: 07	$1
  Rip Snorter	Texas	Lotto Texas	3 of 6	03-11-12-31-42-46	03-05-12-21-22-42	$5

  As you can see, predicting the extra ball was zip for success, but it's the first time I've ever succeeded in predicting a  hit for Kansas, I'm thinking, and getting 2 of 4, or 3 of 4 for Kentucky offers a bare hint I might have been on a right track.

  All in all the results are too good to allow me to drop it entirely, and not good enough to make me happy about keeping on with it.

  J 

   

   

   

  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

  It's about number behavior.

  Egos don't count.

   

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• CARBOB

  

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  Jack,

   You should never give up hope. Sometimes, that's all we have. Even complete failure can be seen as productive, when all is said and done. Keep experimenting, a lot of eyes are watching.

  Bob
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  Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on July 16, 2006

  Jack,

   You should never give up hope. Sometimes, that's all we have. Even complete failure can be seen as productive, when all is said and done. Keep experimenting, a lot of eyes are watching.

  Bob

  Thanks Carbob:

  I'm obliged to you for the post.

  Hope isn't one of the things I'm light on, mostly.

  But I do try to recognize things that aren't working as early as I can.  What I tried with those bonus ball games Thursday/Friday/(and spillover to Saturday) was one of those a person can't get rid of quickly enough.

  This morning I'm trying to hone down whatever it was might have partly worked on KS. 

  I'm grateful for your remarks.  Sometimes I feel middling private here on this thread, which leads me to talk to myself as though it was just me giving marching orders to my cats.

  Gracias,

  J

  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

  It's about number behavior.

  Egos don't count.

   

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• Rick G

  

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  Good post by CARBOB.
  
  Jack, keep in mind that your new angle of tackling the bogus ball games is a very daunting task. These games are designed for the player to lose. It doesn't take anything away from the concept. You've already demonstrated that it does work.
  
  So keep on truckin'!

  Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).
  

  
  
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  Thanks Rick.  And CARBOB, thanks again.

  There's always a chance an old English Lit major will read underlying meaning and stuff crammed in between the lines of something written, but I think I'm catching the right nuances to what you are both saying.  Stuff the writer never intended to be there.  The Finnegan's Wake of the lottery discussion forums.

  It's a tough call in a lot of ways.

  On the one hand, I absolutely don't wish to make life easier for any folks living off the wages of sin (at least not the sin of working for the lotteries and keeping an eye peeled for targets that need a pre-emptive attack).

  On the other hand, I consider it a positive thing if it can be demonstrated that there's a chink in the armor the games have built around themselves.  I'm doing my best to be sly about methods for doing so, but my suspicion is that if I succeed in something, even if I'm sneaky, the savvy ones among LP users will be able to backtrail me enough to get some benefit from it.

  Of one thing I'm completely convinced:  A LOT of LP members are smarter, more cunning, more savvy about numbers behavior than the smartest hotshot the lotteries have on staff.  I think they've disadvantaged themselves by having to work, think, enculturate within a context of not being able to be beaten by the kinds of means we're searching for.

  (While doing their best not to take any chances by keeping LP well monitored and disinformationized, just in case)

   Having said that, in trying to refine what happened with Kentucky Cash Ball, I came up with something that appeared to be four rock-solid numbers, along with several mooshy ones.  But I have no confidence in the method for determining the actual bonus ball.

  So, I'm trying this cute wheel, instead:

   15-19-21-25 +1 ** 15-19-21-25 +2 ** 15-19-21-25 +3 ** 15-19-21-25 +4 ** 15-19-21-25 +5 ** 15-19-21-25 +6 ** 15-19-21-25 +7 ** 15-19-21-25 +8 ** 15-19-21-25 +9 ** 15-19-21-25 +10 ** 15-19-21-25 +11 ** 15-19-21-25 +12 ** 15-19-21-25 +13 ** 15-19-21-25 +14 ** 15-19-21-25 +15 ** 15-19-21-25 +16 ** 15-19-21-25 +17 ** 15-19-21-25 +18 ** 15-19-21-25 +19 ** 15-19-21-25 +20 ** 15-19-21-25 +21 ** 15-19-21-25 +22 ** 15-19-21-25 +23 ** 15-19-21-25 +24 ** 15-19-21-25 +25 ** 15-19-21-25 +26 ** 15-19-21-25 +27 ** 15-19-21-25 +28 ** 15-19-21-25 +29 ** 15-19-21-25 +30 ** 15-19-21-25 +31 ** 2-19-21-25 +15 ** 3-9-15-25 +19 ** 15-17-19-25 +21 ** 3-15-19-21 +25 ** 2-3-21-25 +15 ** 9-15-17-19 +19 ** 9-17-21-25 +21 ** 2-3-15-19 +25 ** 2-17-21-25 +15 ** 2-15-17-19 +19 ** 3-9-21-25 +21 ** 3-9-15-19 +25 ** 2-15-21-25 +15 ** 3-15-19-25 +19 ** 9-15-19-21 +21 ** 3-17-19-21 +25 ** 3-15-17-21 +19 ** 2-9-15-21 +21 ** 2-3-9-25 +25

   Gracias to both of you.

  I'm doing my best to try what I do in a valid way, be as cunning as a three-legged coyote, and not make the blunder of under-estimating the intelligence of an opposition that's given me strong reasons for doing so.  (While still managing to provide enough ideas to the folks left in the world who remember what hope and confidence is, and are willing to put energy into demonstrating it).

  Best to you,

  Jack

  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

  It's about number behavior.

  Egos don't count.

   

  Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser