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And a $100,000 Happy New Year to a lucky person in rockport:

LITTLE LOTTO PRIZE PAYOUTS FOR MONDAY, DECEMBER 31, 2007
 
 
 WINNING  NUMBERS: 14 - 19 - 20 - 27 - 35
 
 
 PLAYERS MATCHING 5 OF 5  NUMBERS
    INCLUDING SUBSCRIPTION WINNERS            1
 EACH PLAYER WILL  RECEIVE           $100,000.00
 
       WINNING TICKETS WERE SOLD AT
   
       200884    LOCKPORT CITGO              (QP)
                 1228 S  STATE STREET
                 LOCKPORT/60441
 
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So for 31 days that's 9 QP winners and 12 non-QP winners.  

The average win for a QP jackpot winner was $154, 375,

for a non-QP jackpot winner was $133, 250.  

OK, so for a 31 day run we had 21 jackpot winners in 31 days.

(The 21 winners counts jackpots that were split, there were 12 jackpots in the 31 days). 

3 days really isn't enough to draw any conclusions, but on this run we've seen that a QP is more likely to be a solo hit and the average QP jackpot is about $21,000 more than a picked-number jackpot. 

Mere "chump change" as compared to a Pick 6 or 5 +1, but how many of us have $21,000 in our pockets?

I'm going to start a thread in Jackpot Games. Pick 5 and track rghe Illinois Pick 5 game for at least 90 days, not in as much detail as this one was, just listing what the jackpot was and what kind of ticket hit it.

Okay CT, I am also seeing just as many non-QP winners.  The thing about pick-5 here is that you can win over $250k or end up with $25,000 if there are multiple winners.  Rarely is there more than one winner in Lotto or MegaMoney, but of course the jackpots are much higher & the odds are much greater.  All the games cost a dollar.  I guess I just need to decide on which game I'm going to waste my dollar.

So far since Sunday 

$201,876  split 3 way -  2 QP and 1 non-QP   12/30

$274,144  one winner -  not a QP    12/31

$194,439  split 3 ways - 1 QP and 2 non-QP    01/01

So from what you & I seem to be noticing, maybe it only seemed as if the QPs were winning all the time because of the way the results are shown.  I mean, when the winning number is a QP or a Free Ticket, they show it next to the location.  When the player uses his/her own numbers, it doesn't say "not a quick pick."   I can't say if this is the case with the huge Lotto jackpots, since only 7 or 8 people win per year.  Last jackpot of $47 million was split 2 ways and one was a QP and the other wasn't.

CARBOB's extensive research is more accurate than mine so I guess we should just conclude that the frequent suggestion that a QP is luckier or wins more often is misleading.

I'm thinking the time period I picked was a fluke, judging by the e-mails I get from the Illinois Lottery with the Little Lotto results.

Want me to forward 365 e-mails to you?

2007 Jackpots: 

Jan:  14 QP, 6 player selected numbers

Feb:  13 QP, 6 player selected numbers

Mar:  16 QP, 4 player seplected numbers 

For those 89 days that was 43 QP winners and 16 player's numbers winners, or 72.8% QPs.

Need I keep going? 

Con't...

This is getting interesting.....

Apr: 10 QP, 3 player selected numbers

May: 8 QP, 9 player selected numbers.

One of those 9 was a subscription winner (first one thus far)

Of those 9, including the sub. winner, 5 were for the same jackpot:

LITTLE LOTTO PRIZE PAYOUTS FOR THURSDAY, MAY 17, 2007
 
 
WINNING  NUMBERS: 05 - 06 - 08 - 10 - 13
 
 
 PLAYER(S) MATCHING 5 OF 5  NUMBERS
    INCLUDING SUBSCRIPTION WINNERS:           5
 EACH PLAYER WILL  RECEIVE:           $20,000.00
 
       WINNING TICKET(S) WERE SOLD  AT:
 
       201233    PACKYS LIQUOR STORE
                 1440  OAKTON ST
                 DES PLAINES/60018
 
       600240     RANTOUL IGA
                 RT 136 EAST
                  RANTOUL/61866
 
       500251    ILLICO OIL #134
                  10013 LANCASTER RD
                 MAPLETON/61547
 
       188037     JJ PEPPERS FOOD STORE 01
                 6740 N RIDGE  AVE
                 CHICAGO/60626
 
 
       NUMBER OF  SUBSCRIPTION WINNERS:        1
 
       CITY OF SUBSCRIBER(S):  MOUNT  PROSPECT

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Notice the numbers were all low, with the highest number being 13. It seems when the numbers are like this the jackpot is much more likely top be split.

Systems player? Birthdays?

Nice to pick up $20,000 (pre-tax), but the one night you do hit having four opthers hit too would just have to "frost" ya, wouldn't it?

TBC

Coin Toss 

Yeah, probably birthdays...
I do not like QPs and I will never admit they are better than self picks. All these sayings: "more sales of QPs - more winners of QPs" make sense after all.

/Derek 

Definitely.  There are only 12 months and 31 days, so I think when numbers all fall below 31 they are usually birthdays and anniversaries.  Either someone will choose the day his/her children were born or the month & day and add an anniversay.  I know people who do that. 

On the other hand, there are a lot of fantasy-5 combinations that have low numbers where there is only 1 winner, others that have 5 or 6 or even 10. 

Well, it's still the luck factor....let's say your numbers are 2  4  6  8  11

There's still nothing to say that the night you play them and they hit how many others will have also played them - or not!

2007 continued:

Jun: 10QP, 3 player selected numbers

Jul: 11 QP, 9 player selecteed numbers

Aug:  11QP, 6 player selected numbers

Sep: 12QP, 2 player selected numbers

9-11 Jackpot was $1,150,000, winner was a QP

As an example, there were 8 jackpots for September, 14 winners- 12 of the 14 QP, 2 not...

Oct: 15 jackpots hit

10 winners were QP, 16 were player selected (a lot of split jackpots that October)

NOV: 11 Jackpots hit

7 winners were QP, 5 were player selected

 (6 days missing when I didn't get the e-mails)

DEC:

11 Jackpots hit

9 were QP, 11 were player selected

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 So just totaling the winners (calling a jackpot shared by 3 winners 3, for example) we have:

Jan 14 QP  6 P (player numbers)

Feb 13 QP  1 P

Mar 16 QP  4 P 

Apr 10 QP 3 P

May 8 QP 9 P

Jun 10 QP 3 P

Jul 11 QP 9 P

Aug 11 QP 6 P

Sep12 QP 2 P

Oct 10 QP 16 P

Nov 7 QP 5 P

Dec 9 QP 11 P

Gives us a total of

 131 QP  74 P

205 winners, 131QP/205= 63.9% QPs

74/205 = 36.09% P

I'd say from this that QP hit more often and are more likely to be a solo hit.

Player selected numbers are more likely to be split jackpots. especially of all the numbers are relatively low.  

I'd also say the person that hit for $1,150,000 on a Pick 5 on 9-11-07 with a QP was one lucky "son of a gun"!

Any other conclusions? 

PS

I'm going to open a Illinois Little Lotto Jackpots 2008 thread in Pick 5 and track at least the first 90 (leap year) days of the year and comapre that to the first 89 days of 2007 

Coin Toss a couple of the recent draws had 3 consecutive numbers.  Nobody won when the number was 17-20-21-22-32 but 6 people hit 3-13-24-25-26  6 is a big different and the payout isn't very good (although I wouldn't complain) but if just one person had chosen the earlier combination, he/she would have won $290K. 

I really don't think you are going to find a pattern or a reason for so many winners or quick picks, except more people buy quick picks.  Last night 6 people won with 6 quick picks.  The other night, 4 people won and nobody bought a quick pick.  Nobody hit 6-13-21-25-29 either.  They could be birthdays, right?  (family of 5, day of the month...that's what I have - just not these numbers!) 

Okay - here's a question.  Maybe Todd has specific information, but are the results that are displayed the next morning with the location manually entered or does a computer list them?  The reason for this curiosity is that many times 5 or 6 winners used their own numbers, not a QP as you suggest is more common.  I mentioned this before, but look at last night's game (I won't list the stores to save space)

Five players matched all five winning numbers in the Friday drawing and will share a $263,629.55 top prize.

The winners will each receive $52,725.91.

The winning numbers were:

04 - 16 - 18 - 23 - 24

If you go to the FL site and check the news, not one of these players bought a QP.   

Now - look at another jackpot for $900,000 for FL MM which is a 4/44 and a MB 1/22 

One player hit the jackpot of $900,000 which is either a 20 year annuity or about 65% payout (it varies)   NOT a quick pick! 

Sat, Jan 5 Lotto hit by one winner for $3 million  - NOT a quick pick.

Looks as if more non-QP tickets win.  If 75% or better are sold, it indicates that they are no more of an advantage than playing personal numbers.

"Looks as if more non-QP tickets win.  If 75% or better are sold, it indicates that they are no more of an advantage than playing personal numbers."

It's possible there are more picked combinations than 25% or as you have already noted, when the highest number is under 32, it's likely there will be more picked combination winners. The Fantasy 5 gives a free QP for matching 2 out of 5 numbers so even the people playing their own numbers will have QPs and that will inflates the QP percentage.

It would be interesting to know how many matching 5 number combos they sell out of the total number of QPs sold. I think it's much more likely that 5 people picking their own numbers would match all 5 numbers than 5 people buying matching QPs.