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United States Member #13375 March 30, 2005 1016 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 28, 2008, 2:18 pm - IP Logged |
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I am glad to see some of you coming to your senses.
I keep proposing we share ideas and numbers and see if we can beat the odds.
Yet some people here are more concerned about sharing the jackpot.
We can keeping posting 12 numbers in the challenges but I don't get any satisfaction from the end result. I share some of my ideas and code too, on the math and p5 forums, as do a few others...
There is more signal and less noise on those forums, IMO ... but I guess it depends on what you're looking for.
Prince of Insufficient Light ~ Ruler of Heck
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United States Member #41809 June 16, 2006 1478 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 29, 2008, 1:32 am - IP Logged |
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And yet people win it 'only playing this game 2 or 3 times before', and some in their 20's have won it.
Maybe when you get older in life you have nothing else to live for, so why the heck not (play the game) ? (LOL)
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United States Member #41809 June 16, 2006 1478 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 29, 2008, 1:43 am - IP Logged |
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Speaking of why certain numbers are picked to play, I've looked at past winning numbers and separated them into different categories that one might use to pick them to play and seldom will more than two or three winning numbers be in any one category that include less than a third of all the numbers in the game. When ever all the winning numbers have been in the same category, that category have included a third or more of all the numbers in the game.
The participants in the Maddogg challenges are trying to do that with twelve numbers but three winning numbers seems to be their limit, occasionally some one will pick four winning numbers but it doesn't happen often. When one person start picking three or more winning numbers regularly in that challenge, they will be on to something.
That's obvious to me as well, but it appears you and I are studying (some of) the same things...
As I keep saying you can make all the educated guesses you want, it still takes a lot of luck, but the important thing is: you have to know how to try and get 'better' luck of the odds in your favor. There are things you just 'notice' when you are looking at things, but as I've said a million times, there isn't a whole lotta difference between 1 in 146 mill and 1 in one mill.......... let alone 3 out of 12.......
And since you brought up Big Dog's Challenge, it SHOULD be obvious to anyone that has played it for any length of time: the folks that participate in it are using all the knowledge and skill they have - they pick their BEST TWELVE numbers based on their own hard work, and once in a blue moon someone gets 3x12. That SHOULD tell folks something, but if they can't see it, I'm not going to tell them.
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Texas United States Member #34118 February 24, 2006 273 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 29, 2008, 2:51 am - IP Logged |
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That's obvious to me as well, but it appears you and I are studying (some of) the same things...
As I keep saying you can make all the educated guesses you want, it still takes a lot of luck, but the important thing is: you have to know how to try and get 'better' luck of the odds in your favor. There are things you just 'notice' when you are looking at things, but as I've said a million times, there isn't a whole lotta difference between 1 in 146 mill and 1 in one mill.......... let alone 3 out of 12.......
And since you brought up Big Dog's Challenge, it SHOULD be obvious to anyone that has played it for any length of time: the folks that participate in it are using all the knowledge and skill they have - they pick their BEST TWELVE numbers based on their own hard work, and once in a blue moon someone gets 3x12. That SHOULD tell folks something, but if they can't see it, I'm not going to tell them.
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If Big Dog's Challenge were increased to 20 numbers, I wonder what the results would be?
I would venture a guess that you would see quite a few 5 for 5 hits each time as there
are some very good number predictors within that group. It seems to me when you start
reducing from 20 numbers, it gets extremely difficult to predict on a consistent basis;
consequently, in my opinion that is why you generally see three hits, inclusive with the MB.
Just my three cents worth,
Best Of Luck,
LottoL
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MD United States Member #1735 June 18, 2003 5031 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 29, 2008, 3:11 am - IP Logged |
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Picking 20 numbers for the challenge is almost half the selections so there might be better results. However it still boils down to selecting the right digits.
The thing is wheeling 12 numbers cost less than wheeling 20 numbers. It doesn't mater much if in your wheel you don't have the winning digits.
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Texas United States Member #34118 February 24, 2006 273 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 29, 2008, 3:42 am - IP Logged |
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Picking 20 numbers for the challenge is almost half the selections so there might be better results. However it still boils down to selecting the right digits.
The thing is wheeling 12 numbers cost less than wheeling 20 numbers. It doesn't mater much if in your wheel you don't have the winning digits. 
I was just pointing out that if you gave (xsmega, fja, konane, gamegrl, maddog10, rjoh, jadelottery, raven62, litebets27, tweetietoo, magma, geos*5666) twenty numbers to select from, you would probably have someone hit 5 for 5 on a relatively consistent basis. If you were to put these predictors in a think tank room to get their best number for a given draw, I would venture a guess that you would have at least 3 out of 5 correct numbers on every draw.
Best Of Luck,
LottoL
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United States Member #24782 October 22, 2005 264 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 29, 2008, 6:29 am - IP Logged |
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I am glad to see some of you coming to your senses.
I keep proposing we share ideas and numbers and see if we can beat the odds.
Yet some people here are more concerned about sharing the jackpot.
We can keeping posting 12 numbers in the challenges but I don't get any satisfaction from the end result. I didn't mean to say that the challenges are bad.
It is a major part of my equation. I use anything that gives me advantage.
I just think it might be worth trying other strategies. It is for our own entertainment afterall.
When we started this challenges which is going on 3 years, we used to highlight or likely picks which slowly disappeared out of the challenges.
Now like they topic states, if we are not worried about other people using our numbers,
if we realize what the odd of over 1: 140,000,000, we should worry less about the jackpot.
All I am proposing is synergy.
A game could trying to come up with as minimum numbers as possible. You get a point for each correct number and lose one for each wrong number. We can keep track of how players are doing.
It will be a discussion thread.
You could help others win or help yourself win.
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Just Guru to you! United States Member #91 January 19, 2002 4743 Posts Online
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| Posted: March 29, 2008, 8:49 am - IP Logged |
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I was just pointing out that if you gave (xsmega, fja, konane, gamegrl, maddog10, rjoh, jadelottery, raven62, litebets27, tweetietoo, magma, geos*5666) twenty numbers to select from, you would probably have someone hit 5 for 5 on a relatively consistent basis. If you were to put these predictors in a think tank room to get their best number for a given draw, I would venture a guess that you would have at least 3 out of 5 correct numbers on every draw.
Best Of Luck,
LottoL
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