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I'll never win any Jackpot

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Posted: March 29, 2008, 4:35 pm - IP Logged Bottom

Picking 20 numbers for the challenge is almost half the selections so there might be better results. However it still boils down to selecting the right digits. 

The thing is wheeling 12 numbers cost less than wheeling 20 numbers. It doesn't mater much if in your wheel you don't have the winning digits.

The problem is wheeling 12 numbers with odds of *1:4823 of having all 5 winning numbers is not always better than wheeling 20 numbers with odds of *1:246 of having all 5 winning numbers.  When gambling, both risk and cost has to be evaluated in your strategy.  For example, a full wheel of 12 numbers have 792 lines but an abbreviated wheel of 792 lines of 20 numbers is likely to have more combinations that win a prize.  Both would cost the same but one is likely to win more than the other and this probably is true even when smaller abbreviated wheels are used in both cases.

*calculation from earlier post.

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Posted: March 29, 2008, 4:56 pm - IP Logged Top

in my opinion the primary reason that the MAddog challenge winners get only 2+0 or 3s is that people dont take enough chances....they try to cover the whole field by posting 12#s smth like say for example: 2 6 10 17 23 25 30 36 44 49 50 55...since only 5 numbers will be drawn they cannot come from the six 10s categories (0s,10s,20s,30s,40s,50s) (a post like that example has two numbers in every tens therefore two of them numbers are automatically wrong since the beginning)...numbers are not that spread out but are more concentrated in groups...then you get a drawing like the big pot had: 6 22 42 43 47 (three numbers from 40s) and also 7 25 28 46 48 (two in 20s two in 40s)....better to take a major guess and say this time the numbers will be concentrated in 10s or 30s and play them with an oddball in the 0s or smth similar...covering the whole spectrum to me indicates that one is not really sure but wants to sort of cover all bases as not to lose...fear of losing is what loses....take more chances...its a challenge not any money lost

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Posted: March 29, 2008, 5:59 pm - IP Logged Top

in my opinion the primary reason that the MAddog challenge winners get only 2+0 or 3s is that people dont take enough chances....they try to cover the whole field by posting 12#s smth like say for example: 2 6 10 17 23 25 30 36 44 49 50 55...since only 5 numbers will be drawn they cannot come from the six 10s categories (0s,10s,20s,30s,40s,50s) (a post like that example has two numbers in every tens therefore two of them numbers are automatically wrong since the beginning)...numbers are not that spread out but are more concentrated in groups...then you get a drawing like the big pot had: 6 22 42 43 47 (three numbers from 40s) and also 7 25 28 46 48 (two in 20s two in 40s)....better to take a major guess and say this time the numbers will be concentrated in 10s or 30s and play them with an oddball in the 0s or smth similar...covering the whole spectrum to me indicates that one is not really sure but wants to sort of cover all bases as not to lose...fear of losing is what loses....take more chances...its a challenge not any money lost

At best, picking 12 numbers that have 4 or 5 of the drawn numbers out of 39 is very difficult so consistently picking 2 or 3 out of 55 and 56 numbers is really pretty good. You're right about the six decades distribution but that's a different playing strategy and might be next to impossible when you can only choose 12 numbers.

If the challenges asked for 20 numbers, there would be more winners, but a 3if4 of 20 number wheel cost around $70 compared to $12 for the same 12 number wheel and 4if5 wheels are $433 and $35. Since the challenges are for every game, the cost of actually playing has to be considered. Can you imagine picking 5 + 1 and not being able to play it because of the cost?

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Posted: March 29, 2008, 8:48 pm - IP Logged Top

in my opinion the primary reason that the MAddog challenge winners get only 2+0 or 3s is that people dont take enough chances....they try to cover the whole field by posting 12#s smth like say for example: 2 6 10 17 23 25 30 36 44 49 50 55...since only 5 numbers will be drawn they cannot come from the six 10s categories (0s,10s,20s,30s,40s,50s) (a post like that example has two numbers in every tens therefore two of them numbers are automatically wrong since the beginning)...numbers are not that spread out but are more concentrated in groups...then you get a drawing like the big pot had: 6 22 42 43 47 (three numbers from 40s) and also 7 25 28 46 48 (two in 20s two in 40s)....better to take a major guess and say this time the numbers will be concentrated in 10s or 30s and play them with an oddball in the 0s or smth similar...covering the whole spectrum to me indicates that one is not really sure but wants to sort of cover all bases as not to lose...fear of losing is what loses....take more chances...its a challenge not any money lost

That's not the answer either because in the 289 drawings since the last MM matrix change, there has only been two occasions when more than three numbers were in same decade.

04/06/07 - 24 32 34 36 39 +06
08/22/06 - 03 04 05 07 36 +16

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Posted: March 29, 2008, 9:12 pm - IP Logged Top

in my opinion the primary reason that the MAddog challenge winners get only 2+0 or 3s is that people dont take enough chances....they try to cover the whole field by posting 12#s smth like say for example: 2 6 10 17 23 25 30 36 44 49 50 55...since only 5 numbers will be drawn they cannot come from the six 10s categories (0s,10s,20s,30s,40s,50s) (a post like that example has two numbers in every tens therefore two of them numbers are automatically wrong since the beginning)...numbers are not that spread out but are more concentrated in groups...then you get a drawing like the big pot had: 6 22 42 43 47 (three numbers from 40s) and also 7 25 28 46 48 (two in 20s two in 40s)....better to take a major guess and say this time the numbers will be concentrated in 10s or 30s and play them with an oddball in the 0s or smth similar...covering the whole spectrum to me indicates that one is not really sure but wants to sort of cover all bases as not to lose...fear of losing is what loses....take more chances...its a challenge not any money lost

bemas>>>>>>>>>>>>bemas????????????

what don't U understand about the word challenge ????

PSYKO ask U to limit UR number's to 10 or LESS if UR G@@D^^^^

OTHERWISE<<<<<<UR<<<<<<<<G@ING<<<<<TOO<<<<LO$$!

bemas>>pick-up UR money & get-back on the TURNIP TRUCK!

thank's too Maddog for D w@rk'$$s

even a psyko tries to stay outta UR>>

way>>>>>cause U-ALL too TOUGH'fff

Thank's for UR CHALLENGE^^^^^^

LOL

PSYKOMO 

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Posted: March 29, 2008, 9:31 pm - IP Logged Top

bemas>>>>>>>>>>>>bemas????????????

what don't U understand about the word challenge ????

PSYKO ask U to limit UR number's to 10 or LESS if UR G@@D^^^^

OTHERWISE<<<<<<UR<<<<<<<<G@ING<<<<<TOO<<<<LO$$!

bemas>>pick-up UR money & get-back on the TURNIP TRUCK!

thank's too Maddog for D w@rk'$$s

even a psyko tries to stay outta UR>>

way>>>>>cause U-ALL too TOUGH'fff

Thank's for UR CHALLENGE^^^^^^

LOL

PSYKOMO 

translation for all in outter SPACE!

thank-u Maddog>

ur post Challenge

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

for a JACKPOT$ 

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Posted: March 30, 2008, 1:28 am - IP Logged Top

That's not the answer either because in the 289 drawings since the last MM matrix change, there has only been two occasions when more than three numbers were in same decade.

04/06/07 - 24 32 34 36 39 +06
08/22/06 - 03 04 05 07 36 +16

people here are misunderstanding me somewhat...i'm not saying that most numbers will come from one particular 10s group...i'm saying that one must skip one tens group all the time (and skip two of them 85% of the time)..this maximizes your chances...posting numbers from all 6 groups is not ideal because you diminish your potential....when you know that at least one or two of your numbers will be wrong since the beginning of challenge (because 5 balls cannot come from six groups) why not take a chance with skiping one group (1/6 shot of being right) and post more #s in the other groups that you think will hit...of course you dont know for sure what 10s to skip...but 50s can be skipped most of the time (6 balls in 50s compared with 10 in others (0s has 9))..what i'm saying is instead of some picks like this: 2-6-13-17-23-28-30-37-43-46-54-55..one that looks like this may be better: 13-16-18-22-26-29-31-35-38-39-43-47...now lets say i guessed correctly that the 0s and 50s group will be skipped for next draw(it did for 3/29 draw: 18-20-25-31-36)....my bold picks would have been better suited of having more correct #s compared to previous example picks becasue by making a guess in the skip i gave myself more chances of picking numbers in the other groups that hit....covering all groups is like shooting yourself in the foot when you know that one (or two) of your numbers will be wrong to begin with...this last sentence is the core of what i'm trying to say...

i'm not saying that there is something wrong with the challenge..i like it just the way it is...the challenge is great becasue is supposed to be hard....12# is the right amount...people here that are saying we should get 20 numbers to post are missing my point.....it will be the same mistake if you post from 6 groups even with 20 numbers

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Posted: March 30, 2008, 9:02 am - IP Logged Top

The great thing about the challenges is that if you have a theory and use it consistantly...it's success will be measured and scored,,,,The thing to remember when you pick your 12 numbers is knowing that at least 7 of them will be wrong (and most times more)......My goal is to hit the jackpot or 2nd teir once,,,,,I'll worry about getting consistancy in my hits after that,,,,,,

Good luck with your theory!!

                       

 

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Posted: March 30, 2008, 10:14 am - IP Logged Top

benmas,

You make a point and as fja says "if you have a theory and use it consistantly...it's success will be measured and scored,," in the challenges. I'll be watching your results.

Good luck

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Posted: March 30, 2008, 10:55 am - IP Logged Top

I agree with what Benmas is saying but from a different point of view.

I think the key here is prioritizing numbers. Going from a high priority to low priority.

Take my picks for example  3/26/08 - 9 12 20 37 49 - 1 played 9 12 39 42 47 - 1 line.

                                         3/29/08 - 18 20 25 31 36 - i played 16 20 25 39 54 - 1 line.

Yes I could have gone to the store a bought 1 qp with 5 + 1.  I definitely don't get this lucky all the time. But my point is that you can hit numbers that have high priorities easily.

It goes something like this:                   1

                                                   2                    2

                                            3           3        3            3

                                       4        4  4      4  4     4    4      4

It gets more complicated down the path.

But you can hit consistently at the top of the priority. It depends on your observations, data and stats. The deeper you go the more luck you need. These could be called repeats, hot numbers, etc. ( You definitely have to be more creative it is not just that simple.)

If we all shared these high priority numbers, somebody will be matching 4+0 or more every month. 

If you are picking 55 numbers and you get the first 3 numbers correctly, you are just a step away from getting 4 numbers especially if you know what numbers are correct or in this case highly likely

 
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