Interesting. Actually that's brave of you to share your ideas. I would think the players on L.P. has a high lottery-I.Q. and just a matter of time before he/she figures out your "ideas" thoroughly and use it for themselves. Does that weight on your conscience.... or what make you share it? Just curious?

Like Todd said many of us have put our ideas in many threads. It's kind of getting old for some of us to keep posting the ideas every time a new member challenges our intelligence and forthrightness to share said ideas for the umpteenth time.

How about you doing a search for jackpot systems or any keywords related to systems and have a field day searching through the posts. Many Saturdays when i first came on here i would do an all nighters looking for various threads about systems you might even find a variation of yours and can combine ideas or after reviewing other peoples ideas come up with a better idea. It's summer time and many of us are doing things not lottery related.

Lots of people have put their ideas in the Blogs.

This poster spent a great deal of his time posting his ideas and thoughts. Rip Snorter

Don't know whatever came of him my guess is he had enough of people belittling him for his ideas.

Does that weight on your conscience....

No, why should it?   It's just the blue prints for a system, they still have to build it.    They can use the information to make a pencil and paper system or coded it into a computer program like I have.  As I said earlier I share ideas not the programs I write.

I think that's the point of a community, whether it's a lottery community or a car forum or a bee keeper's forum.  People share their ideas so that others can benefit.  Because everyone shares, the people doing the sharing get lots of new ideas from other people, in the same way they give their own ideas.

Luck is a funny thing.  It thrives in an environment filled with positive energy, and goes into remission when surrounded by negativity.  Don't be so concerned that someone else may make some money off of your idea.  Be thrilled that they have done so, and hopeful that you will learn some new ideas from other people who share your enthusiasm for sharing.

Some points to make about systems (or algorithms as I call them):

- All Systems (algos) are based on information that everyone has access to, which is the history of past drawings.

- Some numbers in the history appear to come out more often than others.. the most basic system picks whatever numbers came out most often.

- More complex systems rely on mathematics, patterns, and other methods such as "VTRAC". I've seen one method that watches for the full moon to predict triples/quads and another that used PI to calculate the next Pick-3.

- Before I would share my own system I would want to win big, thus showing that it can be used to win, and so that once I win big then I don't care if I win again so I pass on the technology to others. Years ago I won the Pick-5, all 5 numbers, but got a disproportionately small payout for beating such huge odds, because others must have had a similar system. Since then I'm trying to make mine more unique. When payout is pari-mutuel you want to not have too many other winners!

- Systems need to be backtested. I have yet to see anyone show me a backtest indicating their system, if used in the past, would have made more money than spent. For example in the Pick-3, for a STR win you need to overcome the takeout ratio.. the Lottery returns average 50c per dollar wagered (assuming random play) so a profitable system one worth bragging about on here, would match STR more than 1 every 500 plays vs. every 1000 plays the odds dictate. It is obviously very difficult to do that when the Lottery is moving Heaven and Earth to make the draws as random as can be.

For the MAD Dog challenge, I will give you scot-free one of the methods I use.. select at random 12 unique white balls from past drawings and 4 bonus balls, and paste them into the post. This gives you good numbers better than QP but unique numbers so if a lot of people are using this method it's not as likely that 2 or more people pick the same numbers.

- There is also for some people the notion that if they do have a good system they may want to market it, and afraid someone else will steal their idea, but want to "advertise" it to see if it might sell.

The irony is that people who would have the talent to do something with another person's idea - usually have some ideas to offer in exchange. People looking for a "free lunch" demand explanations of others' systems that use smaller and smaller words. It's a dead giveaway. They can steal Bob Vila's tools, but that doesn't make 'em able to build a house.

Todd,

I totally understand where you coming from dude. The saying, "It's better to give than recieve" is not without its' worth -- I think we both can agree with that.

However, when it comes to something as big as winning a jackpot that's an entirely different animal. I'm not against it or for it, it just the phenomenon behind the idea of just "sharing something you worked years to figure out." I think there should be some sort of reward to reveal something as sensitive as that.

To clarify, why not have the players' blogs, ideas, information-sharing converted to money? There are sites that does that very thing. Players can read others ideas and rate it up or down and get pay per click for the number of up-vote. I'm not an expert of putting it all together but I have been on sites that pays to share your ideas.

I even think more LP players will be willing to come out and share what they know (however measured their knowledge to share with others). I think the community here would benefit dramatically and increase more traffic to L.P. The more and more people join and rate others' ideas the greater the community you have at L.P.

What do you think?

I agree with the principality about "recieving something for nothing," it's wrong --- are you suggesting I'm looking for a "free lunch"?

I have much to share and would do so with anybody that has much to share, as well.

Nothing secret here. I use the simplest form of statistics combined with a group system. The systems goes well in profit into its 18th week.