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I can get closer to a win doing just all ODD/Evens

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Posted: July 31, 2008, 4:38 pm - IP Logged Bottom

 Hmmm RJOH.... ohio results are way below the normal expected hit rate of around 2% a year for ALL evens. Of course .... I am figuring draws 365 days a year too..... Different states may not draw each day.  Still...the percents should stay the same regardless of draw amounts.

 Curious ..... was the All ODD rate as bad as that one ...the evens? 

  The hit rate on those All ODDs ....should be averaging about 2.6 % a year.   

  Yeap... OHIO looked slow on their hits .... for all evens usning 1254 draws ..... they should have about 25 hits not just 20 hits

   Looks like Ohio is averaging their hits about once every 50 days..... instead of about once a month. Thats why i was curious to see if the All ODD fellas were raising a fuss during that time for balance. 

  All odd rate during that time should be about 32 hits .....  average     Was it ?   

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Posted: July 31, 2008, 5:03 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

The odds of a 5/39 game are 1:575,757 unless you have all the winning numbers in a pool of 19 numbers(1:11,628).

When I look at the last 1254 drawings of Ohio Rolling Cash5, there were only 20 drawings with all even numbers and 177 drawings with 4 of 5 even numbers.

 TOTAL HITS EVEN NUMBERS (OHIO ROLLING CASH5)

  MATCH  0 = 37
  MATCH  1 = 217
  MATCH  2 = 428
  MATCH  3 = 375
  MATCH  4 = 177
  MATCH  5 = 20

You can alway reduce the pool of numbers you play, but the chances that any of the combinations in that pool will match 4 or 5 is also reduced.

There is no special lottery software do what you want, you either write your own or learn to use a data analyzing program like Excel to do it.

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Ohio now have OhioCash5 every day of the week.  Since I used all even numbers in the above, you can flip the results to get the answer for all odd numbers (20 numbers odds = 1:15504)/ there were 37 drawings with all odd numbers
 
You would probably be better off to find other ways to reduce your number pool, for example only using numbers that hit 5-7 times during the previous 50 drawings.  When I applied this parameter to the Ohio Rolling Cash5 file the number pools were reduced to 8-27 numbers and had all 5 numbers 34 times.

 07/04/08 - 05 11 20 26 27 (pool size 22 numbers)
 06/04/08 - 02 04 17 19 33 (pool size 18 numbers)
 04/11/08 - 01 02 03 09 36 (pool size 20 numbers)

 TOTAL HIT USING NUMBERS THAT HIT 5-7 IN PREVIOUS 50 DRAWINGS (8-27 NUMBERS)

 MATCH 0 = 57
 MATCH 1 = 205
 MATCH 2 = 374
 MATCH 3 = 369
 MATCH 4 = 167
 MATCH 5 = 37

This was just a suggestion for an example, you would could find better parameters by experimenting.

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Posted: July 31, 2008, 5:19 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

I track all Ohio jackpot games but I usually only play RC5 when it's $300K+, I've been working on picking numbers for MegaMillions.  I usually play 10-20 lines using a pool of 30-40 numbers without much luck yet even when I have four or more winning numbers in the pools.

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Posted: July 31, 2008, 6:20 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

      Still.......  are there only 11,628 possible combinations total......in the pick 5 game 1-39  or not ? 

       Because at this point and knowledge level....thats what I needed.  In my limited experience and no software....lower odds plays is all I have right now anyway.

  RJOH.... are their similar odds reduction methods in the larger games that approach anywhere near the percentage reductions achieved here?  Thanks     

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Posted: July 31, 2008, 6:30 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

All this strategy is interesting, however, so far in Illinois Little Lotto for 2008, also a 5/39 game, the results have been:

80 Jackpots

65 QP

43 PS

This includes shared jackpots. There's a jackpot an average of every 2.66 days, call it every third day, and as you see most of gone to quick picks.

As far as "odds reduction", in sp[orts betting it takes a winning percentage of 52.6% to overcome the bet 11 to win 10 vigorish, yet most people are losers.

Dice tables offer the only true odds bets that exist in all of gambling, yet most players are losers.

Granted in lotto the payoffs are much sweeter and it only takes one hit, but the house knows what it's doing.

As RJOh stated, the 5/39 odds are 1:575, 757.

In Illinois, the jackpot progresses starting at $100,000. No game operator is going to offer a $100,000 jackpot that's up against 11,000:1 odds.

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Posted: July 31, 2008, 6:31 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Thanks RJOH ....  I knew you would have some good insights on these. Thank for the effort there.

 It was gratifying to find the number was 37 All odd hits during that time.... a little better than the expected math average we calculated up there of 32 hits.  Still .... + or -  about in range ....pretty good.

 

 Between the All odds and All evens during that time we should have averaged 59 hits for both groups in Ohio.

 That was also gratifying since the real world hits were totaled 62 hits  .....as oppossed to what we calulated it to end up with as 59 hits  . 

  Got within 3 hits ......over a 3.4 year period.     59 estimated      62 actual hits

  Not to bad .   This game has pretty good manners ....  LOL  

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Posted: July 31, 2008, 6:59 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

I can get closer to a win doing just all ODD/Evens

What the heck does this mean?  I've gotten 4 out of 5 in Fantasy-5 (Florida) 6 times since Aug 07 and close doesn't count.  You either win about $80-$100 bucks or you win the whole enchilada.  There is no "close." 

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Posted: July 31, 2008, 7:35 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

 Oh , I think I understand where you are coming from justxploring .   If, I read this correctly .....

  Based on your experience and win record your saying ...

 

      If you get 4 out of 5 numbers right in the Fantasy-5 (Florida) you win $80-100 bucks .....but, if you don't get all 5 of the numbers correct then you can not win the whole enchilada. You can win a little money if you get a few numbers, but that's not even close to winning the whole enchilada.

      I understand.         

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Posted: July 31, 2008, 10:20 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

For those interested in the math and statistics here are some universal truths. Not only for pick-5 but other lottery games as far the number pool you use ......and the possible combinations that that gives us.

  * This demonstrates my orginal statement as to playing the All even/odd as opposed to Mixed numbers or quick picks.  

  This will make it obvious what playing a smaller number pool does to the possible combinations created.  Note the All even pool .....of 19 numbers down there ....and the All odd combinations at 20 pool numbers.

                            Fact ...Lower is better Patriot

 

  If you play 5 number pool ......there is only       1 combination possible

                    6 number pool .....there is only      6 combinations

                          7           ''                                 21 combinations

                          8 "                      "                    56 combos

                          9 ............................................126

                         10..........252

                         11..... 462

                         12 ....792

                         13.....1,297

                          14.....2,002

                          15....3003

                          16 ....4,368

                          17....6,199

                          18 ... 8,568

                           19..............  11,628   all even combinations possible

                            20 .........     15, 504 all odd combinations possible

                            21........20,349

                             22........26, 349

                              23....33,649

                                24.....42,594

                                25......53,130

                                 26....65,790

                                  27 .... 90,730

                                   28..... 98,290

                                    29......119,755

                                     30......237,336

                                      31....

                                       32.....

                                        35....

                                         36......

                                           37....... 435,897

                                            38 ........ 501, 942

                                             39....... 575, 757   total combinations using all 39 numbers.

 
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