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Premium members: can I get your help?
Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17538 Posts Offline
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| Posted: July 31, 2009, 12:28 am - IP Logged |
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Todd,
Again apologies for the confusion on this one as well. The reason I came up with the 06/07/2000 date was because SuperLotto Plus has changed format many times. I have confirmed that this game did indeed start in 1986, but can't find a specific date. The game was in a 6/49 format originally but between 1990 and 2000, the game changed formats from 6/49 to 6/53+1 and then to a 51 number game. The game then changed to the current game format on 06/07/2000, which is where I came up with that date. Since the California Lottery didn't have a history page, I used their past winning numbers charts to find the data, and they started with 06/07/2000 because of the format change.
Again sorry for the confusion on this and the Florida dates. I'll send off the links to the data I could find for you via the Contact Us form as you suggested in a bit.
-Jeff It's perfectly OK. In fact, I find this kind of checking and double-checking to be the best way to iron out lottery data. It is really difficult to do, and it's almost impossible for one person to do it alone.
For those games where you see data at LP stretching back to the 1970s-1980s-1990s, those are almost always games that I was able to previously track down the past results for, and got them loaded. I think my 10/18/1986 date for Calif. SuperLotto is the first draw, but I just haven't been able to verify it yet. I believe at one point I obtained the draw history, but I just can't remember.
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New Member  Syracuse, NY United States Member #78102 July 26, 2009 20 Posts Offline
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| Posted: July 31, 2009, 1:19 am - IP Logged |
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Well, I just sent you a message via the Contact Us form with the links to a "little bit" of info. Hope it all helps out, and should keep you busy for a bit!
Anyways, because of the issue with the Florida Fantasy 5, I went back and double checked all the dates that didn't match up. I did find a couple errors on my part.
Connecticut Lucky-4-Life you were right, I hadn't taken into account drawings only on certain days of the week and went by the "date introduced."
Again another snafu, Georgia Fantasy 5 first drawing was 11/18/1994. Again, didn't consider not being daily drawings, ugh.
Also, you listed the Georgia Fantasy 5 date in both the Florida and Georgia boxes on the master list.
-Jeff
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New Member  Grifton, NC United States Member #75156 May 17, 2009 6 Posts Offline
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| Posted: July 31, 2009, 5:51 am - IP Logged |
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North Carolina
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Pick 3 Midday 672
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3/31/2008
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3/31/2008
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North Carolina
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Pick 3 331
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10/6/2006
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10/6/2006
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North Carolina
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Pick 4 9441
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4/17/2009
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4/17/2009
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North Carolina
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Cash 5 7 21 27 35 36
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10/27/2006
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10/27/2006
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Here are the results for NC.
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17538 Posts Offline
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| Posted: July 31, 2009, 2:05 pm - IP Logged |
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Well, I just sent you a message via the Contact Us form with the links to a "little bit" of info. Hope it all helps out, and should keep you busy for a bit!
Anyways, because of the issue with the Florida Fantasy 5, I went back and double checked all the dates that didn't match up. I did find a couple errors on my part.
Connecticut Lucky-4-Life you were right, I hadn't taken into account drawings only on certain days of the week and went by the "date introduced."
Again another snafu, Georgia Fantasy 5 first drawing was 11/18/1994. Again, didn't consider not being daily drawings, ugh.
Also, you listed the Georgia Fantasy 5 date in both the Florida and Georgia boxes on the master list.
-Jeff Thanks, I will fix the chart if it needs correcting.
I finished collecting and uploading all the Florida Fantasy 5 data, back to the first drawing on 5/2/1989, so another one is checked off the list!
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17538 Posts Offline
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| Posted: July 31, 2009, 3:00 pm - IP Logged |
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I am happy to report that the Florida results are complete, now that I have finished collecting and loading the Lotto and Mega Money results back to the first draws of each.
Too bad nobody else is joining in to help here (other than Jeff), but at least I'm continuing to plug along.
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New Member  Syracuse, NY United States Member #78102 July 26, 2009 20 Posts Offline
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| Posted: July 31, 2009, 10:42 pm - IP Logged |
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Hey Todd,
Just got a reply from the Kentucky Lottery with complete data in Excel's format. I'll forward it your way ASAP. I've got some free time tonight so I'll look up a few more dates as well.
-Jeff
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17538 Posts Offline
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| Posted: July 31, 2009, 11:14 pm - IP Logged |
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Hey Todd,
Just got a reply from the Kentucky Lottery with complete data in Excel's format. I'll forward it your way ASAP. I've got some free time tonight so I'll look up a few more dates as well.
-Jeff Awesome, got it, thanks!
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New Member  Syracuse, NY United States Member #78102 July 26, 2009 20 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 1, 2009, 12:57 am - IP Logged |
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Here's a few more dates:
Maryland Midday Pick 3 05/01/1995 Correct
Maryland Pick 3 07/29/1976 Correct
Maryland Midday Pick 4 05/01/1995 Correct
Maryland Pick 4 04/08/1983 Correct
Maryland Bonus Match 5 10/10/1991 Wrong? 10/10/1991 is when "Match 5" began, the Bonus didn't come in until 09/17/1995. The game ended 01/15/1998, but came back 02/04/2002. So I'm not sure if you want to count that as the same game starting 10/10/1991 which would mean your data is incomplete. But if you want to count only the "new" version, data is complete.
Maryland Multi-Match 02/04/2006 Correct
Massachusetts Numbers Midday 06/09/2008 Correct
Massachusetts Numbers Evening 04/10/1976 Wrong
Massachusetts Mass Cash 03/28/1991 Wrong
Massachusetts Megabucks Doubler 11/27/1982 Wrong
Massachusetts Cash Winfall 09/13/2004 Correct
Michigan Keno 04/09/1990 Wrong
Michigan Midday 3 12/16/1996 Correct
Michigan Daily 3 06/06/1977 Correct
Michigan Midday 4 12/16/1996 Correct
Michigan Daily 4 10/05/1981 Correct
Michigan Fantasy 5 09/12/2004 Correct
Michigan Classic Lotto 47 05/18/2005 Correct
Minnesota Daily 3 08/14/1990 Wrong
Minnesota Northstar Cash 10/07/2003 Correct
Minnesota Gopher 5 05/24/1991 Wrong
Missouri Midday Pick 3 07/26/2004 Correct
Missouri Pick 3 ?
Missouri Midday Pick 4 07/26/2004 Correct
Missouri Pick 4 11/02/1998 Correct
Missouri Show Me Cash ? Your date is correct for "Show Me Cash," but it was just a name change from "Show Me 5" which goes way back. Your call, but I requested data for Show Me 5 as well just in case you want to include that data as well.
Missouri Lotto ?
The ones with ?'s don't have enough data posted on the website. Sent them a quick email asking for the full data.
Montana Montana Cash 05/11/1991 Wrong Sent an email to get complete data as the data on the website only goes back 10 years.
I also have looked up all the data locations for these states. I'll email them to you once I finish up for the night.
-Jeff
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New Member  Syracuse, NY United States Member #78102 July 26, 2009 20 Posts Offline
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Well, I didn't think of looking at the "History" page for the Missouri Lottery, according to that these dates are when "sales began." So the first drawing might not be that exact date, but sometime close to them.
Missouri Pick 3 02/26/1987 Wrong
Missouri Show Me Cash 11/06/1994 Wrong (assuming you want to include "Show Me 5" data.)
Missouri Lotto 10/01/1986 Wrong
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New Member  Syracuse, NY United States Member #78102 July 26, 2009 20 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 1, 2009, 5:40 am - IP Logged |
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Last date update for the night...
Nebraska Pick 3 05/23/2005 Correct
Nebraska Pick 5 Couldn't find date, contacted them regarding this and all data for it.
Nebraska MyDaY 10/1/2008 You didn't include this game in your list?
New Jersey Midday Pick 3 11/12/2001 Correct
New Jersey Pick 3 05/22/1975 Correct
New Jersey Midday Pick 4 11/12/2001 Correct
New Jersey Pick 4 09/01/1977 Correct
New Jersey Cash 5 10/07/1992 Correct
New Jersey Pick 6 05/15/1980 Correct Assumed all these were right, but checked anyways.
New Mexico Pick 3 09/25/2000 Wrong
New Mexico Road Runner Cash 02/10/1998 Wrong (Not sure where other date came from, but this one was listed in their history page.)
New York Pick 10 ?
New York Midday Numbers ?
New York Numbers ?
New York Midday Win 4 ?
New York Win 4 ?
New York Take 5 ?
New York Lotto ?
Figures that this is my state, and it's the only one I can't confirm any of the dates for so far. I sent them an email requesting all data files though.
North Carolina Pick 3 Midday 03/31/2008 Correct
North Carolina Pick 3 10/06/2006 Correct
North Carolina Pick 4 04/17/2009 Correct
North Carolina Cash 5 10/27/2006 Correct
Ohio Ten-OH Midday 08/06/2007 Correct (Not sure where the 8/4 day is from)
Ohio Ten-OH Evening 08/06/2007 Correct
Ohio Midday PIck 3 08/16/1999 Correct
Ohio Pick 3 12/31/1979 Wrong
Ohio Midday Pick 4 08/16/1999 Correct
Ohio Pick 4 04/09/1981 Wrong
Ohio Rolling Cash 5 10/04/2004 Correct
Ohio Kicker 01/04/1989 Wrong
Ohio Classic Lotto 01/22/2007 Correct
Oklahoma Pick 3 11/10/2005 Correct
Oklahoma Cash 5 09/05/2006 Correct
Ontario Daily Keno ?
Ontario Pick 3 ?
Ontario Early Bird ?
Ontario PayDay ?
Ontario Pick 4 ?
Ontario Ontario 49 ?
Ontario Lottario ?
Ontario Encore ?
Couldn't find a single date for any of these.
Oregon Lucky Lines 04/10/2006 Correct
Oregon Pick 4 1pm 02/11/2002 Correct
Oregon Pick 4 4pm 02/11/2002 Correct
Oregon Pick 4 7pm 04/24/2000 Wrong
Oregon Win For Life 02/19/2001 Correct
Oregon Pick 4 10pm 02/11/2002 Correct
Oregon Megabucks 11/20/1985 Wrong
Pennysylvania Midday Daily # 02/11/2003 Correct
Pennysylvania Daily Number 03/01/1977 Correct
Pennysylvania Midday Big 4 02/11/2003 Correct
Pennysylvania Big 4 11/22/1980 Correct
Pennysylvania Treasure Hunt 05/08/2007 Correct
Pennysylvania Quinto Midday 08/26/2008 Correct
Pennysylvania Quinto Evening 08/26/2008 Correct
Pennysylvania Mix and Match 01/25/2007 Correct
Pennysylvania Cash 5 04/23/1992 Correct
Pennysylvania Super7 03/13/2009 Correct
Puerto Rico Loteria Tradicional ????????? ?????
Puerto Rico Pega 2 07/10/2002 Wrong
Puerto Rico Pega 3 11/10/1990 Wrong
Puerto Rico Pega 4 07/10/2002 Wrong
Puerto Rico Loto 07/19/1991 Wrong
Puerto Rico Revancha 09/04/2002 Wrong
The dates I came up with are pretty concrete, couldn't find loteria tradicional, I don't read (spanish?) so I tried my best with these. Just remember when you enter data, they do dates as DD/MM/YYY instead of MM/DD/YYYY like we do.
Quebec Astro ?
Quebec Banco ?
Quebec La Quotidienne 3 ?
Quebec La Quotidienne 4 ?
Quebec Tango 01/16/2009 Correct
Quebec Triplex ?
Quebec La Mini ?
Quebec Quebec 49 ?
Quebec Jour de Paye ?
Quebec Extra ?
Couldn't find a single date for any of the rest, hopefully data you have is good. ( I find it odd these ones are so hard to find compared to the BC and Atlantic Canada results)
Rhode Island Numbers Game ?
Rhode Island Wild Money ?
Another one I couldn't find info on, Emailed them as well.
South Carolina Midday 3 07/01/2003 Correct
South Carolina Pick 3 03/07/2002 Correct
South Carolina Midday 4 07/01/2003 Correct
South Carolina Pick 4 01/27/2003 Correct
South Carolina Palmetto Cash 5 02/14/2005 Correct
South Carolina MegaMatch 6 02/05/2008 Correct
South Dakota Dakota Cash 04/12/1993 Wrong
Tennessee Midday Cash 3 11/21/2005 Correct
Tennessee Cash 3 03/01/2004 Correct
Tennessee Midday Cash 4 11/21/2005 Correct
Tennessee Cash 4 04/18/2005 Correct
Tennessee Pick 5 03/10/2008 ?????? Not sure what's going on here, their winning numbers pages only go back this far but you have much more data into 2004.
Tennessee Lotto Plus 03/11/2008 Correct
Texas Pick 3 Day 04/29/2002 Correct
Texas Pick 3 Night 10/25/1993 Correct
Texas Daily 4 Day 10/01/2007 Correct
Texas Daily 4 Night 10/01/2007 Correct
Texas Texas Two Step 05/18/2001 Correct
Texas Cash 5 10/13/1995 Correct
Texas Lotto Texas 11/14/1992 Correct
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New Member  Syracuse, NY United States Member #78102 July 26, 2009 20 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 1, 2009, 6:48 am - IP Logged |
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Well I guess I lied, couldn't sleep so here's the last bit of the list. Also, I'll send the email with all of the data I managed to dig up that was missing and I'll keep forwarding the data I couldn't find from the lotteries who are willing to send it.
-Jeff
UK National Lotto HotPicks 07/10/2002 ?????? The history file of UK National Lottery says this started on 07/10/2002, not 11/19/1994. (See email for link.)
UK National Thunderball 06/12/1999 Correct
UK National Lotto 6/49 11/19/1994 Correct
UK National Daily Play 09/22/2003 Correct
UK National Dream Number 07/15/2006 Correct
Virginia Midday 3 01/30/1995 Correct
Virginia Pick 3 05/22/1989 Correct
Virginia Midday 4 01/30/1995 Correct
Virginia Pick 4 09/30/1991 Correct
Virginia Midday Cash 5 04/12/1999 Correct
Virginia Cash 5 02/05/1993 Correct
Washington Keno 11/08/1992 Wrong
Washington Daily 01/18/1984 Wrong
Washington Match 4 08/03/2008 Correct
Washington Hit 5 03/19/2007 Correct
Washington Lotto 07/1984 Wrong Can't find exact date.
Washington, D.C. Midday Lucky #'s 11/09/1992 Wrong
Washington, D.C. Lucky Numbers 08/22/1983 Wrong
Washington, D.C. Midday DC-4 11/09/1992 Wrong
Washington, D.C. DC-4 03/12/1985 Wrong
Washington, D.C. Rolling Cash 5 11/14/2005 Wrong, missing one number, 01,16,32,33,35. Game ended on 07/18/2009
Washington, D.C. Midday DC-5 07/19/2009 NEW
Washington, D.C. DC-5 07/19/2009 NEW
Washington, D.C. DC Daily 6 08/28/2005 Correct
West Virginia Daily 3 02/26/1987 Wrong
West Virginia Daily 4 02/26/1987 Wrong
West Virginia Cash 25 02/09/1990 Wrong
Western Canada Pick 3 ?
Western Canada PayDay ?
Western Canada Western 49 ?
Western Canada Extra ?
Again couldn't find dates for these.
Wisconsin Daily Pick 3 09/21/1992 Wrong
Wisconsin Daily Pick 4 09/15/1997 Wrong
Wisconsin Badger 5 02/17/2003 Correct
Wisconsin Super Cash 02/04/1991 Wrong
Wisconsin Megabucks 06/20/1992 Correct
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17538 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 1, 2009, 9:13 am - IP Logged |
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@Jeff,
That is just plain tremendous. Thank you!! I'm going to work through all of that and update the chart. I also appreciate very much that you're getting in contact with the lotteries -- this is the kind of assistance that really takes a load off my back.
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17538 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 1, 2009, 12:38 pm - IP Logged |
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I have finally finished updating the chart on page 1, and I made several corrections in the data based on the info from Jeff. (BTW, I rec'd your e-mail too. Amazing level of detail -- exactly the details I need -- and extremely helpful.)
Some of the miscellaneous changes:
- Inserted the missing results for Ontario Pick 3 for April 2002. (Still missing previous draws for that game, but at least filled in the missing gap of data.)
- Fixed issue with UK Lotto HotPicks - first draw is now correctly set at July 10, 2002.
- Inserted NE MyDaY into chart.
- Deleted old DC Rolling Cash 5 game from chart and inserted new DC-5 Mid and Eve games
- The Quebec dates I found on their site. Many of the games have a "Did you know?" section that includes the start date of the game. But still missing the actual data because for some reason Canada lotteries do not like to publish historical draw data.
- For MD Bonus Match 5, I would like to include draw history back to the first version of the game, so I set the start date to 10/10/1991.
- I will probably do the same thing for MO Show Me 5, but I'm not positive. If you can get the data that would be great. I currently have data back to Jan. 1, 1998 for Show Me 5.
- For Puerto Rico Lotería Tradicional, of course if I can get the data I'll certainly input it, but I'm not going crazy to get the older data. Going forward, I have finally developed a reliable method of obtaining it (very hard to come by), so all current and future data is golden.
It will take me a while to catch up on getting all the actual data loaded because it is very labor-intensive, but please do keep sending whatever you get your hands on. If I can at least obtain all of it, I can get it loaded gradually when I get time slices to work on it.
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17538 Posts Offline
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| Posted: September 23, 2009, 1:56 pm - IP Logged |
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I unlocked the thread so that it can continue to get feedback as needed.
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