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The Sport of Kings
Ohio United States Member #50440 February 21, 2007 1658 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 6, 2009, 6:21 am - IP Logged |
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Only thing is there are so many Simulcast Races, you have to take yor pick, So you think the Horse numbers you pick will come out in any race? So far they have been coming out in the races that I pick. Good luck to you! What are the main Tracks do you play? Thanks in advance. Bless everyone!
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New Member  United States Member #80732 September 18, 2009 10 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 9, 2009, 11:06 pm - IP Logged |
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Only thing is there are so many Simulcast Races, you have to take yor pick, So you think the Horse numbers you pick will come out in any race? So far they have been coming out in the races that I pick. Good luck to you! What are the main Tracks do you play? Thanks in advance. The predicted number values of the day that are being being posted (in the blog "The Sport of Kings) are to be watched in the Win or Place positions. These are the predominate numbers of the day which will be in the money with a high rate of frequency on their given date as predicted.
One must consider them when selecting horses in any given race. The primary thing to remember is that these number selections will often pay a premium price! Most track data shows that the favorite wins approx 30% of the time. In using the data one could place the track favorite to win and these selections to place or these selections to win and the track favorite to place but the bottom line is that one cannot overlook these predictive selections when considering the outcome of any given race. Analysis of track results will prove these predictive selections being in the money.
I do recommend that no more than 1 or 2 tracks be followed and data recorded for review to better position oneself for the next running or simply watch in races equal to the number values of the day. Example: if 1, 2, 3, 4 are the selections of the day watch in the same races of equal value Race # 1 #2 #3 #4
Some current examples (not all inclusive):
If one had pickedCharles Town as the track to play on 10-09-09 with the predictive numbers of the day being 7, 8, 2, 3 and played race(s) #2 #3 #7 #8
the following outcome would have been realized:
Charles Town
Race #2
#8 won paying $15.00 and $6.00 to place
Exacta 8-2 paid $82.60
Race #3
#2 won paying $5.00
Exacta 2-8 paid $32.20
Race #7
#8 won paying $12.00 and $5.80 to place
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Finger Lakes
Race #2
#2 won paying $13.00 and $8.10 to place
Exacta 2-7 paid $343.50
Race #3
#2 won paying $ 6.20
Race #7
#2 won paying $ 16.80
Race #8
#3 won paying $ 14.60
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Hawthorne
Race #8
#7 won paying $ 43.20
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Lone Star Park
Race #3
#8 won paying $ 57.80
Exacta 8-7 paid $ 147.60
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Santa Anita
Race #8
#3 placed paying $ 90.40
I don't really tell a punter how to play because everyone has their own particular methods or looking for certain kinds of outcomes. What I do is point you to the most productive horses of the day as they will frequently win or place on the specified day. How one utilizes the info is purely a matter of individual decision.
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Ohio United States Member #50440 February 21, 2007 1658 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 10, 2009, 11:01 am - IP Logged |
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Good info, Cypher! Have a good weekend! I hope i can win some Money! Bless everyone!
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United States Member #48183 November 22, 2006 667 Posts Online
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| Posted: October 11, 2009, 5:00 pm - IP Logged |
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Hi everyone,
First a hat's off in apprecaition to cypher for his generous & effective selection sharing !
As many know, because of biz deemands I am unable to be on the board on a daily basis.
I have received a number of PM, emails, etc requests to expand on my refernece to DUTCHING the races and I hope this post will suffice as a efficient one all reply.
Step #1, straighforward & eleiminate the nags that haven't run in the last 15, 30, or 60 days thus filtering at least 60%
Step #2, simply play all remainig. Period
Easy without concern for ratings, uneducating guessing etc utilizing this tool effectively will help the player get good prices to make it worthwhile.
If realtime players want I will, when time allows, write up a DUTCHING wagering chart for easy refernceing.
Anyone using this DUTCHING startegy with the cypher predictions are welcomed to share their results here.
Hope to see you in the winner's circle-
EddessaKnight 
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United States Member #48183 November 22, 2006 667 Posts Online
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| Posted: October 17, 2009, 5:43 pm - IP Logged |
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Hi everyone,
First a hat's off in apprecaition to cypher for his generous & effective selection sharing !
As many know, because of biz deemands I am unable to be on the board on a daily basis.
I have received a number of PM, emails, etc requests to expand on my refernece to DUTCHING the races and I hope this post will suffice as a efficient one all reply.
Step #1, straighforward & eleiminate the nags that haven't run in the last 15, 30, or 60 days thus filtering at least 60%
Step #2, simply play all remainig. Period
Easy without concern for ratings, uneducating guessing etc utilizing this tool effectively will help the player get good prices to make it worthwhile.
If realtime players want I will, when time allows, write up a DUTCHING wagering chart for easy refernceing.
Anyone using this DUTCHING startegy with the cypher predictions are welcomed to share their results here.
Hope to see you in the winner's circle-
EddessaKnight  Hi Everyone,
Received several PM inqueries on aforementioned Dutching chart which can be a good hedging strategy & should be applied in conjuction with my above protocols
I should also mentioned that my purpose here on the Sport of Kinfs thread is to suggest a wagering strategy consideration to enhance payouts for Cypher's number pics.
And as he often has long shot winners I also have simple wagering strategies to cover 10-1 & 20-1 as well as lace betting profitably/
Using tote board odds five (5) minutes before the race, bet the suggested percentage (%) of your days
- budget after the odds on the chart below.
- Do not bet on a horse that is less than 1/1 odds.
- Must bet three horses or less at a time and bet all three to WIN.
See you all in the winner's circle-
EddessaKnight 
PERCENTAGE OF WIN AND ODDS PAYOFF
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Odds
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Pay
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Odds
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Pay
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1/5
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80%
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2.4
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3/2
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38%
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5.0
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2/5
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66%
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2.8
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8/5
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36%
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5.2
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3/5
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60%
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3.2
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9/5
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35%
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5.6
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4/5
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56%
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3.6
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2
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33%
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6.0
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1
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50%
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4.0
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5/2
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29%
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7.0
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6/5
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44%
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4.4
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3
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25%
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8.0
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7/5
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40%
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4.8
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7/2
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22%
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9.0
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Odds
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Pay
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Odds
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Pay
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4
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20%
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10.0
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10
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9%
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22.0
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9/2
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18%
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11.0
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11
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8%
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24.0
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5
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17%
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12.0
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12
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8%
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26.0
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6
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14%
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14.0
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15
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6%
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32.0
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7
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13%
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16.0
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20
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5%
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42.0
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8
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11%
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18.0
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25
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4%
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52.0
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9
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10%
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20.0
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30
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3%
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62.0
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Ohio United States Member #50440 February 21, 2007 1658 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 18, 2009, 6:03 am - IP Logged |
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Hi Everyone,
Received several PM inqueries on aforementioned Dutching chart which can be a good hedging strategy & should be applied in conjuction with my above protocols
I should also mentioned that my purpose here on the Sport of Kinfs thread is to suggest a wagering strategy consideration to enhance payouts for Cypher's number pics.
And as he often has long shot winners I also have simple wagering strategies to cover 10-1 & 20-1 as well as lace betting profitably/
Using tote board odds five (5) minutes before the race, bet the suggested percentage (%) of your days
- budget after the odds on the chart below.
- Do not bet on a horse that is less than 1/1 odds.
- Must bet three horses or less at a time and bet all three to WIN.
See you all in the winner's circle-
EddessaKnight 
PERCENTAGE OF WIN AND ODDS PAYOFF
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Odds
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Pay
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Pay
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1/5
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80%
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2.4
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3/2
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38%
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5.0
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2/5
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66%
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2.8
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8/5
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36%
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5.2
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3/5
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60%
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3.2
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9/5
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35%
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5.6
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4/5
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56%
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3.6
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2
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33%
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6.0
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1
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50%
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4.0
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5/2
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29%
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7.0
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6/5
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44%
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4.4
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3
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25%
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8.0
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7/5
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40%
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4.8
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7/2
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22%
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9.0
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Odds
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Pay
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Odds
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Pay
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4
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20%
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10.0
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10
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9%
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22.0
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9/2
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18%
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11.0
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11
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8%
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24.0
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5
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17%
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12.0
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12
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8%
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26.0
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6
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14%
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14.0
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15
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6%
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32.0
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7
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13%
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16.0
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20
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5%
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42.0
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8
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11%
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18.0
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25
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4%
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52.0
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9
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10%
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20.0
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30
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3%
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62.0
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Thanks I will copy this. You are right about betting horses that have a 1/1 odds, you can't make any money with those odds, I rarely bet on a horses with odds like that. Yesterday was my lucky day, Keenland $69.00 for 4/10 exacta. Belmont $29.00 for Exacta. Turf paradise $15.00 13/8 Ex. Santa Anita 215 $1.Trifecta 134.00 and Ex. 2/1 $34.00 Belmont 7/8 Ex.. I have to find out more about the Dutching system. Let me know when you get more info. I was lucky to pick numbers and use a few from lotterypost members. Bless everyone!
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Ohio United States Member #50440 February 21, 2007 1658 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 18, 2009, 6:12 am - IP Logged |
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Hello, I'm a newbie here but love the site and the insights of people. I will start this blog about horse racing and will eventually cover various things about the subject. I used to run a site years back and am thinking about reviving it. I believe in the standard tools of the "punter" but I also developed an interest in astrology and applied mysticism which I began to use in predictive racing. As time permits and passes I will cover some of these items as well in predictive analogies such as: sound values (related to names of horses) color (related to saddle cloth and silks) but the primary focus will be numbers (related to the number(s) of the horses). Some other things will be related to Jockeys and performance as related to rhythms.
Ok....here goes the first predictions for all tracks on 10-03-09!
Numbers of the day are: #'s 1, 2, 5, 6 Note: if considering the #1 you also must consider #10 but is not absolutely necessary. These will be the primary Astro/Mystic numbers affecting races on 10-3-09. Finishes should only be considered in the Win or Place positions only. Also, these numbers will frequently be at a premium.
So there you have it..."keep your mind on your money and your money on your mind." I will be glad when you come back here! Bless everyone!
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Michigan United States Member #22730 September 24, 2005 946 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 18, 2009, 6:44 am - IP Logged |
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I will be glad when you come back here! You realize he has his blog - with updated results?
http://www.lotterypost.com/blog/82027 truecritic -> When your dreams turn to dust, vacuum.
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Ohio United States Member #50440 February 21, 2007 1658 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 18, 2009, 11:07 am - IP Logged |
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Wow, I didn't know that thanks! Bless everyone!
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Michigan United States Member #22730 September 24, 2005 946 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 19, 2009, 1:04 am - IP Logged |
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You're welcome. truecritic -> When your dreams turn to dust, vacuum.
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Ohio United States Member #50440 February 21, 2007 1658 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 20, 2009, 3:09 am - IP Logged |
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You're welcome. What Tracks do you play? I am just curious. Maybe we can pick some winners. Bless everyone!
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United States Member #48183 November 22, 2006 667 Posts Online
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| Posted: October 21, 2009, 4:42 pm - IP Logged |
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Thanks I will copy this. You are right about betting horses that have a 1/1 odds, you can't make any money with those odds, I rarely bet on a horses with odds like that. Yesterday was my lucky day, Keenland $69.00 for 4/10 exacta. Belmont $29.00 for Exacta. Turf paradise $15.00 13/8 Ex. Santa Anita 215 $1.Trifecta 134.00 and Ex. 2/1 $34.00 Belmont 7/8 Ex.. I have to find out more about the Dutching system. Let me know when you get more info. I was lucky to pick numbers and use a few from lotterypost members. Hi Marcie, Don, Cathy, Cypher, et al
As promised iam enclosing a brief but effectuve wagering plan for Playing Longshots for Cypher pic or any other.
When playing longshots there are several guidelines I like to follow.
1. Find a longshot with a known good trainer angle that has a good journeyman jockey, or a hot apprentice. The horse needs to be going at the right distance and on the right surface, and must be in the right class level.
2. If the horse meets our criteria and we have a probable false favorite it's time to lay our money on the line.
3. If the odds at or near post time are less than 10/1, I play to win only. If the odss are 10/1 or more, I play 1 unit to win, and 3 units to place. If the odds are over 20/1, I will play 1 unit to win, 3 units to place, and 6 units to show. Irecommend this only when you're pretty sure your horse can hit the board.
Have effective strategies for Profitable Show betting & Trifecta wagering schedules that I will write up for sepeate posts/
Hopefully this one post helps and works as a one answers all PMs.
Good Luck Everybody,
EddessaKnight 
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United States Member #47874 November 4, 2006 638 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 21, 2009, 9:09 pm - IP Logged |
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eddes your post makes sense..I will never understand when I go to the OTB here in Ky there is a little old lady who will put 2.00 on a long shot to place and I mean longshot..9 times out of 10 the horse wins..I tell her for a extra 2.00 if you really like the horse take a flyer and put 2.00 on it's nose and place..She bet one horse that went off at 35-1 and it won but she played it just to place..She now every once in a while will bet 2.00 on the horses nose..She did it once and it paid big bucks and she was so happy..Good luck..
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United States Member #48183 November 22, 2006 667 Posts Online
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| Posted: October 30, 2009, 8:54 pm - IP Logged |
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eddes your post makes sense..I will never understand when I go to the OTB here in Ky there is a little old lady who will put 2.00 on a long shot to place and I mean longshot..9 times out of 10 the horse wins..I tell her for a extra 2.00 if you really like the horse take a flyer and put 2.00 on it's nose and place..She bet one horse that went off at 35-1 and it won but she played it just to place..She now every once in a while will bet 2.00 on the horses nose..She did it once and it paid big bucks and she was so happy..Good luck.. Hey tiggs95, et al-
Thanks for your feedback.
As a follow up on the the powerful hedging tool, Dutching is to intended to mitigate the risk factor in speculation; so now for the rest of the story:
Every hedge has a cost, so before you decide to use hedging, you must ask yourself if the benefits received from it justify the expense. Remember, the goal of hedging isn't to make money but to protect from losses. The cost of the hedge - whether it is the cost of an option or lost profits from being on the wrong side of a futures contract - cannot be avoided. This is the price you have to pay to avoid uncertainty. Therefore, while hedging will not produce profits directly, it will redice loses.
This related message from the famed Del Mar throughbred Club:
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If you like to dutch your bets (play multiple horses in a single race and be guaranteed a certain amount if one of those picks comes through), the dutching tool is for you. The tool allows you to play up to 12 horses in a single race To use it, simply enter the profit you'd like to earn in the race in the desired profit field or the total amount you have available to wager by changing the pull-down menu. Then place the odds of the horses you'd like to play in the various odds boxes. These odds may be in one of the following forms (3/2, 3-2, 1.5). The tool will then calculate how much you'll need to play on your horses in order to earn the desired profit. It'll also let you know how good a bet is by giving you a profit margin and a confidence number.
The profit margin simply lets you know how much of your winnings will go back into repaying your wagers and how much will be profit. The closer to 100% this number is, the better your wager.
The confidence percentage lets you know what percentage of similar bets you'll need to make in order to break even. If this number is 80%, you should be 80% sure that one of your horses is going to win. To put it another way, if the confidence percentage says, 80% you'll need to have one of your horses come in at least 80% of the time to turn a profit in the long run.
The tool will also let you know how much a specific bet is going to cost and an approximation of how much you can expect to win. Remember, it's usually a bad idea to chase a small amount of money with a large wager.
You can also choose to have the tool round off your wagers to the nearest dollar so that it displays playable amounts to wager on each horse. It's important to note as well that all wagers below $1 are rounded up to $1.00 even no matter how small they
Lastly, the confidence and profit margin numbers are still valid even if you've only entered in one horse. It's a good way to just check any wager where you know the odds and want to simply get statistics about your wager."
May Fortuna Smile upon you all-
EddessaKnight 
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United States Member #47874 November 4, 2006 638 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 30, 2009, 10:39 pm - IP Logged |
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eddes..Thanks for the info..I'll have to study on that one..Not many are replying but people are reading your post..Thanks again..
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