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If I'm posting in the wrong forum, I do trust that Todd will put it in the correct forum. This is weighing heavy on my mind right now, and I wanted other people's views and opinion on this. In the Bahamas it is the mindset that "playing numbers" is wrong and that you cannot be 'for God' if you do so! What are your views? How do you feel about this? I do believe that some of us are gifted with dreams, it may be prophetic dreams or just dreams where the numbers are just a given to play and they do fall. I always tell people when they say to me, "I thought you were a Christian, and you playing numbers," to show me where in the bible that says "THOU SHALT NOT GAMBLE". They tend to use the passage of Scripture where Jesus went into the temple and turned over the tables because people were casting lots and selling in His Father's House. What I reply to them is so what makes gambling wrong and selling right? I read it to say that they were both things that should not have taken place in the Church and that there is a time and place for everything under the sun. It amazes me of the way people see things. Playing numbers is wrong, but what about buying raffle tickets? Isn't that a form of gambling? Not to knock down any religion, but in the Bahamas, the Catholic big fund raisers are centered around raffles and the selling of raffle tickets, so then raffle is right and buying numbers is wrong...? Hmm... I'm just confused and want some guidance in this. I'm sure people will quote scriptures and I won't knock you, but what I say is whatever scripture is quoted is not only about gambling, but about our selfish greed as humans. It can mean any of the weaknesses that we as human beings struggle on a daily basis with. I welcome all views and opinions on this. We gat haterz everywhere we go. No longer do I cry when fake friends say, "Goodbye!" | | |
United States Member #91 January 19, 2002 8173 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 11:45 am - IP Logged | |
Thou shalt not post in a lottery website, if thou is not a gambler! "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!" = W.C.Fields | | |
Long Island Bahamas Member #59974 March 17, 2008 1529 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 11:52 am - IP Logged | |
Thou shalt not post in a lottery website, if thou is not a gambler! LMAO, good one!!!! u have an AMEN on that one!! We gat haterz everywhere we go. No longer do I cry when fake friends say, "Goodbye!" | | |
Bahamas Member #73147 March 23, 2009 324 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 12:13 pm - IP Logged | |
I try not to get into Biblical debates with people regarding lottery, gambling, or what ever they want to call it. These debated can go on forever. | | |
Connecticut United States Member #62108 May 29, 2008 13299 Posts Online | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 12:16 pm - IP Logged | |
If I'm posting in the wrong forum, I do trust that Todd will put it in the correct forum. This is weighing heavy on my mind right now, and I wanted other people's views and opinion on this. In the Bahamas it is the mindset that "playing numbers" is wrong and that you cannot be 'for God' if you do so! What are your views? How do you feel about this? I do believe that some of us are gifted with dreams, it may be prophetic dreams or just dreams where the numbers are just a given to play and they do fall. I always tell people when they say to me, "I thought you were a Christian, and you playing numbers," to show me where in the bible that says "THOU SHALT NOT GAMBLE". They tend to use the passage of Scripture where Jesus went into the temple and turned over the tables because people were casting lots and selling in His Father's House. What I reply to them is so what makes gambling wrong and selling right? I read it to say that they were both things that should not have taken place in the Church and that there is a time and place for everything under the sun. It amazes me of the way people see things. Playing numbers is wrong, but what about buying raffle tickets? Isn't that a form of gambling? Not to knock down any religion, but in the Bahamas, the Catholic big fund raisers are centered around raffles and the selling of raffle tickets, so then raffle is right and buying numbers is wrong...? Hmm... I'm just confused and want some guidance in this. I'm sure people will quote scriptures and I won't knock you, but what I say is whatever scripture is quoted is not only about gambling, but about our selfish greed as humans. It can mean any of the weaknesses that we as human beings struggle on a daily basis with. I welcome all views and opinions on this. Most folks here who are religious have referred to a "hit" as a blessing...... Bread Not Bombs!.. Flour Power, - It’s the Yeast We Can Do | | |
Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 19933 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 12:18 pm - IP Logged | |
If I'm posting in the wrong forum, I do trust that Todd will put it in the correct forum. This is weighing heavy on my mind right now, and I wanted other people's views and opinion on this. In the Bahamas it is the mindset that "playing numbers" is wrong and that you cannot be 'for God' if you do so! What are your views? How do you feel about this? I do believe that some of us are gifted with dreams, it may be prophetic dreams or just dreams where the numbers are just a given to play and they do fall. I always tell people when they say to me, "I thought you were a Christian, and you playing numbers," to show me where in the bible that says "THOU SHALT NOT GAMBLE". They tend to use the passage of Scripture where Jesus went into the temple and turned over the tables because people were casting lots and selling in His Father's House. What I reply to them is so what makes gambling wrong and selling right? I read it to say that they were both things that should not have taken place in the Church and that there is a time and place for everything under the sun. It amazes me of the way people see things. Playing numbers is wrong, but what about buying raffle tickets? Isn't that a form of gambling? Not to knock down any religion, but in the Bahamas, the Catholic big fund raisers are centered around raffles and the selling of raffle tickets, so then raffle is right and buying numbers is wrong...? Hmm... I'm just confused and want some guidance in this. I'm sure people will quote scriptures and I won't knock you, but what I say is whatever scripture is quoted is not only about gambling, but about our selfish greed as humans. It can mean any of the weaknesses that we as human beings struggle on a daily basis with. I welcome all views and opinions on this. The choice of forum is fine — the only thing I would recommend doing differently in the future is to make a more descriptive Subject/Title for your post. Many times people don't bother reading the posts with very generic titles, like "A question for everyone" or "What do you think about this?" You'll generate more interest by specifying a title like, "Are lotteries and gambling against the Word of God?" (Or something like that.) NOW THEN, I'd like to weigh-in on your topic too! I do not believe there is anything in the Bible that says gambling is bad. Quite the opposite! There are references to lotteries in the Bible. I don't remember the exact quotes off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone does. Gambling is a form of entertainment. And just like any other form of entertainment, it can be abused or over-done. Alcohol can also be abused — and to much worse effects than gambling, since it can not only ruin somebody financially, but can also ruin their health. And the Bible certainly does not "outlaw" alcohol — It would be quite difficult to take communion without it! | | |
United States Member #13375 March 30, 2005 2113 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 12:23 pm - IP Logged | |
If I'm posting in the wrong forum, I do trust that Todd will put it in the correct forum. This is weighing heavy on my mind right now, and I wanted other people's views and opinion on this. In the Bahamas it is the mindset that "playing numbers" is wrong and that you cannot be 'for God' if you do so! What are your views? How do you feel about this? I do believe that some of us are gifted with dreams, it may be prophetic dreams or just dreams where the numbers are just a given to play and they do fall. I always tell people when they say to me, "I thought you were a Christian, and you playing numbers," to show me where in the bible that says "THOU SHALT NOT GAMBLE". They tend to use the passage of Scripture where Jesus went into the temple and turned over the tables because people were casting lots and selling in His Father's House. What I reply to them is so what makes gambling wrong and selling right? I read it to say that they were both things that should not have taken place in the Church and that there is a time and place for everything under the sun. It amazes me of the way people see things. Playing numbers is wrong, but what about buying raffle tickets? Isn't that a form of gambling? Not to knock down any religion, but in the Bahamas, the Catholic big fund raisers are centered around raffles and the selling of raffle tickets, so then raffle is right and buying numbers is wrong...? Hmm... I'm just confused and want some guidance in this. I'm sure people will quote scriptures and I won't knock you, but what I say is whatever scripture is quoted is not only about gambling, but about our selfish greed as humans. It can mean any of the weaknesses that we as human beings struggle on a daily basis with. I welcome all views and opinions on this. What's to be confused about? People are busybody hypocrites who will happily spend any "sinful" gambling winnings you are willing to part with. If you want to have some fun while sending them on their way, point out all the things they do that go against the rules laid out in Exodus and Leviticus. Do a web search on "Why can't I own a Canadian" for some relevant chapters and verses. In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency. | | |
San Diego, CA United States Member #61952 May 24, 2008 19120 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 12:31 pm - IP Logged | |
If I'm posting in the wrong forum, I do trust that Todd will put it in the correct forum. This is weighing heavy on my mind right now, and I wanted other people's views and opinion on this. In the Bahamas it is the mindset that "playing numbers" is wrong and that you cannot be 'for God' if you do so! What are your views? How do you feel about this? I do believe that some of us are gifted with dreams, it may be prophetic dreams or just dreams where the numbers are just a given to play and they do fall. I always tell people when they say to me, "I thought you were a Christian, and you playing numbers," to show me where in the bible that says "THOU SHALT NOT GAMBLE". They tend to use the passage of Scripture where Jesus went into the temple and turned over the tables because people were casting lots and selling in His Father's House. What I reply to them is so what makes gambling wrong and selling right? I read it to say that they were both things that should not have taken place in the Church and that there is a time and place for everything under the sun. It amazes me of the way people see things. Playing numbers is wrong, but what about buying raffle tickets? Isn't that a form of gambling? Not to knock down any religion, but in the Bahamas, the Catholic big fund raisers are centered around raffles and the selling of raffle tickets, so then raffle is right and buying numbers is wrong...? Hmm... I'm just confused and want some guidance in this. I'm sure people will quote scriptures and I won't knock you, but what I say is whatever scripture is quoted is not only about gambling, but about our selfish greed as humans. It can mean any of the weaknesses that we as human beings struggle on a daily basis with. I welcome all views and opinions on this. I don't believe that gambling is against God's laws. But Christians are to follow man's laws when they don't conflict with God's law. It is my understanding that in the Bahamas you are breaking the law by the lottery gambling you are doing. You are not really playing the lottery, but placing bets with places that act like bookies. I would be more concerned about that being against God's laws than gambling. | | |
San Diego, CA United States Member #61952 May 24, 2008 19120 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 12:34 pm - IP Logged | |
One more thing. If you are NOT a good steward with the money you have, then I don't think gambling would be the right thing to do. You FIRST have to be a good steward with the money that you have. | | |
Ridge Runner - Oracle of the Appalachians Way back up in them hills, son United States Member #74415 April 28, 2009 9579 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 1:36 pm - IP Logged | |
Maybe you should remind these people that are judging you what the Bible says about that. "Judge not, lest ye be judged." There are too many self-righteous busybodies in the world always worried and concerned about what somebody else is doing . Sometimes you have to tell them to mind their own business. . I will not comply. I will never submit.
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San Diego, CA United States Member #61952 May 24, 2008 19120 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 1:44 pm - IP Logged | |
Maybe you should remind these people that are judging you what the Bible says about that. "Judge not, lest ye be judged." There are too many self-righteous busybodies in the world always worried and concerned about what somebody else is doing . Sometimes you have to tell them to mind their own business. http://www.capalert.com/judgenot.htm | | |
MD United States Member #1735 June 18, 2003 7162 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 1:48 pm - IP Logged | |
Gambling in general is and can become habitual and if gambling causes you to spend money you would otherwise use to pay bills, buy food, etc. and you are using that money to gamble then it can be considered sinful. If gambling rules your life and everything around you the love for money can be considered a sin. If people gamble with their disposable money i see no reason not to do it however the church might. Even thought the church has table games etc. they make claim that they are using the proceeds to further gods church. In other words they use the money to fix/repair the church and go about doing gods work purchasing reading materials bibles etc. While some money passes hands among the congregation or group the proceeds are used to further the church. Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!! | | |
New Jersey United States Member #18150 June 28, 2005 17927 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 2:13 pm - IP Logged | |
Thou shalt not post in a lottery website, if thou is not a gambler! If thou art a gambler, thou shalt not post religion on a lottery website! A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions! | | |
United States Member #52818 May 21, 2007 987 Posts Online | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 2:40 pm - IP Logged | |
Thou shalt not post in a lottery website, if thou is not a gambler!  luv it ......
personally  at all organized religion/s in general welcome to Lottery post ..... please post again  | | |
Atlanta, GA United States Member #1288 March 13, 2003 3316 Posts Offline | | Posted: October 17, 2009, 3:21 pm - IP Logged | |
Within the structure of what's legal and lawful in your area, don't allow someone else's standards to dictate which actions are good for your own life. God provides people everything they need to help themselves such as dreams, hunches, visions,etc., provided they're open to receiving them. It depends on whether someone choose to use them or not, but their choices have no bearing on your life orchoices for your own actions. I'll paraphrase what the late Joseph Campbell said "Follow your bliss." Good luck!  Good luck to everyone!
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