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Delta Draw says: " Any one vtrac hitting 3 times a month (at home)is very unlikely, so most players would LOSE".

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Here is an example in the state of Washington (at home) where the Vtrac 134 in combination has hit three times within the same month in the home state...& a one draw per day lottery participating state at that.

WA V134: 023 028 073 078 523 528 573 578

• Game(s): Washington Daily Game
• Match Type(s): straight and boxed
• Date range: Past 90 Days (Nov 10, 2009 - present)
• 4 drawings matched the search criteria specified

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Here is another example with the same Vtrac in combination appearing three times within the same month in the home state of Washington:

WA V145: 034 039 084 089 534 539 584 589

 Draw Date   State   Game   Results 

• Game(s): Washington Daily Game
• Match Type(s): straight and boxed
• Date range: Past 90 Days (Nov 10, 2009 - present)
• 6 drawings matched the search criteria specified

Tue, Dec 29, 2009 Washington Daily Game 4-5-3

Tue, Dec 8, 2009 Washington Daily Game 8-0-4

Mon, Dec 7, 2009 Washington Daily Game 0-8-9

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Here is another example with the same Vtrac in combination appearing FOUR TIMES within the same month in the home state of Washington:

WA V234: 123 128 173 178 623 628 673 678

• Game(s): Washington Daily Game
• Match Type(s): straight and boxed
• Date range: Past 6 Months (Aug 9, 2009 - present)
• 11 drawings matched the search criteria specified

Thu, Nov 26, 2009 Washington Daily Game 3-6-2

Wed, Nov 18, 2009 Washington Daily Game 6-7-3

Wed, Nov 11, 2009 Washington Daily Game 1-2-8

Sat, Nov 7, 2009 Washington Daily Game 1-7-8

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I am coming down the pike hitting aces now!

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Here is another example with the same Vtrac in combination appearing FOUR TIMES within the same month in the home state of Washington:

 WA V245: 134 139 184 189 634 639 684 689

• Game(s): Washington Daily Game
• Match Type(s): straight and boxed
• Date range: Past 90 Days (Nov 10, 2009 - present)
• 8 drawings matched the search criteria specified

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Here is another example with the same Vtrac in combination appearing FOUR TIMES within the same month in the home state of Washington:

WA V345: 234 239 284 289 734 739 784 789

• Game(s): Washington Daily Game
• Match Type(s): straight and boxed
• Date range: Past Year (Feb 8, 2009 - present)
• 12 drawings matched the search criteria specified

Mon, Oct 19, 2009 Washington Daily Game 4-2-8

Tue, Oct 13, 2009 Washington Daily Game 9-8-2

Wed, Oct 7, 2009 Washington Daily Game 3-2-9

Sat, Oct 3, 2009 Washington Daily Game 4-7-8

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Delta Draw you must be very very careful about making a blanket statement, especially when you have full access to the data links presented in front of you.

Excellent Lavern! Thank you!

The tools are already here for historical studies ! Cool!

I noticed the examples you gave are from the ‘big part’ of the bell curve. That is significant.

I don’t mind getting my chops busted with facts. Is there a way to determine what Vtrac is good for a month in any particular state? I mean, one that will hit at least three times or better in the same state? How does one make that determination?

Three hits a month on one vtrac playing the eight combinations for maybe an $80.00 gain is a costly thing. If the third one does not come in, it's a big loss. Any suggestions?

Picture if you will....Mild mannered, long time Lottery Post member calabs entering the Lottery Discussion forum with a two part question.

That question: Would you use vtrac search engine and would you be willing to become a Platinum member to use it? Innocent enough, most

of us would agree. Picture again...inquisitive turned insulting, short term member Delta Draw imagining there can't possibly be a vtrac search

engine that would do anyone any good without an accompanying full 10 page report on what it would do, how to use it, where the proof is,

where the hits are and step by step instruction for the beginner. Maybe a disclaimer could be added in BOLD print stating this search engine

is only a tool....if such a search engine were to be developed.

There indeed does seem to be a 5th dimension and we've just crossed over into it...welcome folks, to the Twilight Zone.

Personally, I don't see how a simple question has escalated or maybe disintegrated into a discussion where the OP has been more or less,

put on trial. Calabs simply posted a question to gauge interest in a vtrac search engine. Could it be the second part of his question that

struck a nerve? It seems there is some underlying reason connected to the need to post mathmatical findings, argue the importance of such

a resource and put pressure on calabs to explain, in-depth, the 5 W's of a hypothetical resource. I do believe that is between him and Todd.

Would you pay to become a Platinum member in order to use it? does not mean your Platinum membership fees will go up $100 if you say

yes or by George...USE it if it becomes an available resource.

There are already quite a few resources, tools, bonuses here that require paid membership...and for good reason. They are valuable. Do

you use all of them? Do you argue that your membership should cost less if you've never touched the deflate tool? Or do you just accept that

it is there and not question exactly what portion of your membership fee is allocated toward: resources, systems, inbox capacity, blog features,

search past results features, prediction limits and so on? If so, concerning the latter...then why argue so strongly against the possible

implemetation of a useful, new tracking source? Just as one may not understand the inspect or deflation tools, you may not understand a

new tool for vtracs data...the simple answer then is to study it...Not be handed the answer, given the step by step or be led by the hand

on how it works, how to do it, how to win with it by the one merely suggesting it would be useful. It would be a tracking tool. Plain and simple.

The road this discussion took is neither plain or simple.

calabs understands what he is suggesting...I've seen many people talk about vtracs and btw, they are pretty darn good with them. Do you

think they got a copy of: Become a Vtracs Master in One Day? I don't. I think they put a lot of effort into using what was provided for them

here and invested a lot of their own time understanding them and using them to their advantage. Maybe your playing style is such that

investment of time is not your cup of tea..then this resource by far would not be the one for you to use unless someone showed you where

it would hit, when it would hit and exactly how it would hit.

**How does one make that determination?** by studying your own states numbers, patterns, hot, cold, overdue, pairs, cycles etc...If it looks

like it's coming play it then. If you are presented with a line of 8 vtrac possibles...you don't go in blind and play them all unless you want to be

let down AND broke just because someone said: vtrac so and so is due. It is not a magic bullet...it's another tool......harmless and totally

undeserving of your attack. Like anything else...it's what you put into it....it's not life or death. By the way...you don't have to play anything

anyone tells you to play. It's all up to you.

I didnot have to go far for the examples some were from January of 2010.

To determine if a Vtrac will hit at least three times or better look at the past performances. If you see that a particular trac has not been producing then it may be time. The tracs seem to rotate. Look at the #s that are hitting from the Vtracs in your state. Look at the data & ask yourself are the same #s appearing? If not then you may be able to play less #s & hopefully gain a higher margin of profit.

Of the #s that are hitting are they all even, all odd, high high low, low low high, etc.? How soon are the mirrors hitting? Take the time to examine the Vtracs in this manner. Once you start going through the questions above you will want to know even more information.

If a particular Vtrac has not appeared for the month you may want to know has this happened before? & if so how many times before? & what is the length of each absence? This is where a Vtrac search engine comes into play. To be able to enter the name of the Vtrac (without having to enter the #s contained within the Vtrac) for your state & possibly have it show the dates as to when it appeared. You will then be able to see any gaps in Vtrac appearances & then try to gage when they will be appearing perhaps on or around the date of the last appearance or so.

My suggestion is to start exploring. I have taken the time to give you in ascending order the six way single Vtracs, you didnot have to enter the eight #s for each Vtrac...I did that for you. However you will have to enter the double Vtracs for your state of Washington Because there are even more hits to be realized through that arena.       

Delta Draw have you personally taken the time to go through the Vtracs listed here in this post? I was hoping that you & others would take advantage of the info presented. & if one is not clear about the terminology Todd has a great Search For Something Feature found at the top of the page inside of the blue bar called Resources.

Lavern, Yes I have looked at them. What conclusions should I be making from the ones listed in this post?

Yes Dr this is quite the discussion. Sorry if you view it as an attack. From the beginning I inquired HOW.

 I really don’t think it is the place for members to openly poll for more membership resources. That is mob rule.

Thank you for insights into using this tool. It appears that the resources available now already provide a way to do what is wanted or suggested in the poll. That is the twilight Zone of skewed reality. The poll still leads in results where those who participated do not know what a Vtrac is. I cannot see where not knowing should be excluded from it’s use. Ten page outline? I’m am still trying to find out from calabs the same question. HOW. Lavern is the only civil one here able to provide one viewpoint, with solid examples. And these examples are made with available resources. Is this new tool to make more work for Todd to accommodate the lazy who know how to get the information now ? We should not even be having a discussion about what Todd should do or will do or even mention his name in this context. He can poll too ya know.

What is wrong wanting to know how calabs comes to his conclusions? He wants to help people, but only by delivering number sets or Vtracs. What business is it of any member to put Todd on the spot in a poll for personal undisclosed reasons? There is only one vote that counts on what a membership provides. Poll him.

I respect membership seniority, but I did not know there was a pecking order. Resource Privilege comes with membership fees. I do not see where seniority or level of membership can direct what the site owner does. It is just as ridiculous of a twilight concept as expecting the site to deliver the winning numbers to the next draw, day in and day out or a ten page manual you speak of. IF the site provides a new tool, I can go along with that, but the tool to do this job exists NOW. You are right that if people do not use the resources it is on their head. Lavern showed how the present resources can do the job. That is reality, not some twilight zone in shades of gray. The need is met at the platinum level NOW. Who is fooling who? You call my question of HOW an attack? Read the quote below. It defines many things including spin. That is the twilight zone of mob rule.

It would help me pick numbers faster and easier [ 10 ]  [20.00%]

HOW?

Delta Draw please read more carefully. My first name is LAVERNE, with an e as the last letter. The constant misspelling let's me know that you are really not understanding what you are reading. You are skimming & not holding on to the concepts that are of great importance.

Another point that is truly alarming is that you have not gone through the single Vtracs thoroughly. Because you would not have made a statement that the single Vtracs listed do not appear three or four times in the home state. If you had sincerely taken the time to merely click on the link to the different Vtracs & looked through them deliberately you would not have made the statement.

Delta Draw you have a great deal missing as far as reading & comprehension is concerned. If you are going to grasp & learn anything that is written you must wholeheartedly employ better reading & comprehension skills.

Go back & reread my postings within this thread & draw your conclusions based on what I have given you thus far. That's it!

Best Wishes To You!

Can't you do the same thing you want to do in an Excel Spreadsheet?

http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/196920/1349334

THIS right here is why Vtracs is a great tool for people to use..to help them find whats missing so it will increase their odds on getting a hit..

Vtrac v2345 missing WAY too long in PA!

 1234 1239 1284 1289 1734 1739 1784 1789 

                      6234 6239 6284 6289 6734 6739 6784 6789

CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PA EVENING 1289 ..

Calabs...EXCELLENT work my friend...Excellent work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you lotterybraker...right in my own state.

Calabs, I remember that post.

lotterybraker -

Thank you lotterybraker...!!

Thank you dr65.....!! 

Sorry I misspelled your name Laverne. Please do not take it personal.

 I have looked at what you posted aside from what you think or imagine. Thank you for showing an example of how present L.P. resources can discover vtrac history. I have made my own conclusions, I guess asking yours is not the friendly thing as well as is asking calabs. Lesson learned. Remarks about my reading and comprehensive skills are unnecessary, but are a good  diversion. It seems calabs has closed the case with available resources he has at hand. If such a new tool is in the works, I can only wonder the manner it is being promoted. Regardless of that, last time I looked there were 10 votes wanting a new Tool. It would be friendly of folks to share HOW they use such a information, what they find that works for them etc.- and no harm would come in explaining details.

This is the school of hard knocks. One hard sell IMHO. I hope the right people are consulted on the features of this new tool so as to not ruffle any feathers like it is some kind of personal insult. It would be helpful to the collective membership in anticipation to a new tool to have an open dialog of how it will help them pick numbers better and faster. Calab can use his closed case example to show how one would determine when to play a long due vtrac.

The poll leads with those who do not know what vtracs are. Don’t expect them to know HOW to use them for their own benefit. I will join your ranks in withholding any relevant information because when in Rome,….do what the mob does and don’t ever question the pecking order. Figure things out on your own. It's just the rat race afterall.

I am still waiting for an answer calabs.

It would help me pick numbers faster and easier [ 12 ]  [23.08%]   HOW?  Are these winning numbers?

Vtrac 134 is still on for Monday. Been some more 5.0+ quakes. No 4’s.

vtracs are just grouping of sets of numbers. They behave just like individual numbers. You may have a streak of good runs and then it turns. I find no benefit in vtracs. If I, nor anyone else can successfully predict the erratic behavior of single digits, what could possibly make me think I could predict groups of numbers? Especially with multiple pre-tests and tube rotations.