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How often have you won with Pick 4?

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Posted: April 17, 2010, 1:55 am - IP Logged

First off, I am still pretty new to this site, but I am VERY new to pick  4.

I tried for the last 3 weeks on Thursday to play but the nightly drawing was in effect so I missed (no sweat though as I would have lost anyway :) ).

But this past thursday I hit the lucky sum for a whopping $18. I was stoked!

So I am wondering how often folks win anything on pick 4 and is it from the numbers themselves or from lucky sum?

Also, what does it mean to 'box' the numbers?

By the way, I regularly play pick 5, MM and PB in Tn, and sometimes scratch offs so I am familiar with those, I just dont win near as much.

    Toney725's avatar - speedykat
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    Posted: April 17, 2010, 8:51 pm - IP Logged

    First off, I am still pretty new to this site, but I am VERY new to pick  4.

    I tried for the last 3 weeks on Thursday to play but the nightly drawing was in effect so I missed (no sweat though as I would have lost anyway :) ).

    But this past thursday I hit the lucky sum for a whopping $18. I was stoked!

    So I am wondering how often folks win anything on pick 4 and is it from the numbers themselves or from lucky sum?

    Also, what does it mean to 'box' the numbers?

    By the way, I regularly play pick 5, MM and PB in Tn, and sometimes scratch offs so I am familiar with those, I just dont win near as much.

    Congrats on your hit.

    We don't have lucky sum in GA so my hits have come from the number itself. 

    To "box" a number means that if you play 1234 and you have $1 str/box on it and it falls 4321, you still win.  In GA that would get you $100.  If you played 1234 $1 str and it falls 4321, you get nothing because you played it straight and it didn't fall straight.

    Pick a couple of numbers that mean something to you and ride 'em for a few days.  Birth year, house number, car tag etc...  I've hit my dad's year, my year, one of my sister's birthdays, a quad etc.

    GOOD LUCK!!! See Ya!

     

    P.S.  I see you're in TN which has computerized drawings.  I used to play on my way through to AR, but I quit once they went to computerized.  Again, GOOD LUCK!

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      Posted: April 17, 2010, 9:40 pm - IP Logged

      First off, I am still pretty new to this site, but I am VERY new to pick  4.

      I tried for the last 3 weeks on Thursday to play but the nightly drawing was in effect so I missed (no sweat though as I would have lost anyway :) ).

      But this past thursday I hit the lucky sum for a whopping $18. I was stoked!

      So I am wondering how often folks win anything on pick 4 and is it from the numbers themselves or from lucky sum?

      Also, what does it mean to 'box' the numbers?

      By the way, I regularly play pick 5, MM and PB in Tn, and sometimes scratch offs so I am familiar with those, I just dont win near as much.

      Or right here, you can go to the Pick 4 forums and look at Calabs predictions or Lottolaugh or some others and look at what their workout numbers for your state shows, and more often they will provide you a win.

      This is better than just depending on birthday numbers, or plate numbers and the like. 

      I win more often since I have been a member here, I have learned to perfect my number History search, you would be surpriced how often we win!! 

      Only I would advice you to upgrade to gold or platinum as soon as you are able, so you can  gain access to more tools that will help you.

      forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

      Now, does it count??

       

       

      *Jr$ina

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        Posted: April 17, 2010, 9:59 pm - IP Logged

        The best thing to do is to understand the odds,  overall BOXED/VS/STRAIGHT to hit straight is 1 in 10000, period no matter what,  the number it has to be in order.  Hitting box differs in the number of possible combos so the odds change if 1234 = ABCD the box odds are 1 in 417 since there are 24 possible box combos from a pick 4 with 4 differing numbers, if you have 1233= ABCC (a double) 12 possible combos the box odds are 1 in 833 and the payout is higher per dollar depending on the state, then you have a 1122 = AABB (a double double) the odds are 6 possible combos 1 in 1667 odds then the triple 1222 = ABBB )(a triple) possible combos 4 odds are 1 in 2500. And of course straight 1111 = AAAA (a straight) odds 1 in 10000.

        It doesn't matter what box you play but depending on the possible amount of combos determines the payout the lower the possible combos the higher the odds and payout. 

        I hope this helps.  I go by historical statistics.  I'll take a look at your state and suggest a couple of numbers.  Good luck!

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          Posted: April 21, 2010, 1:07 am - IP Logged

          The best thing to do is to understand the odds,  overall BOXED/VS/STRAIGHT to hit straight is 1 in 10000, period no matter what,  the number it has to be in order.  Hitting box differs in the number of possible combos so the odds change if 1234 = ABCD the box odds are 1 in 417 since there are 24 possible box combos from a pick 4 with 4 differing numbers, if you have 1233= ABCC (a double) 12 possible combos the box odds are 1 in 833 and the payout is higher per dollar depending on the state, then you have a 1122 = AABB (a double double) the odds are 6 possible combos 1 in 1667 odds then the triple 1222 = ABBB )(a triple) possible combos 4 odds are 1 in 2500. And of course straight 1111 = AAAA (a straight) odds 1 in 10000.

          It doesn't matter what box you play but depending on the possible amount of combos determines the payout the lower the possible combos the higher the odds and payout. 

          I hope this helps.  I go by historical statistics.  I'll take a look at your state and suggest a couple of numbers.  Good luck!

          Thanks everybody.

          So exact I understand -- thats where 1234 has to be exactly in that order.

          Then does 'box' just mean it is 'any' order? are those one and the same?

          also, I am confused by the lottery slip showing 4 different payouts when I select 'any or exact order' something like 100/200/400/600. Seems like it mentions something about the placement of the numbers?

          Does this mean if I chose 1234 and the winning number is 1243 -- do I get a little more because the 1 and 2 are in the same spot?

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            Posted: April 21, 2010, 1:10 am - IP Logged

            Congrats on your hit.

            We don't have lucky sum in GA so my hits have come from the number itself. 

            To "box" a number means that if you play 1234 and you have $1 str/box on it and it falls 4321, you still win.  In GA that would get you $100.  If you played 1234 $1 str and it falls 4321, you get nothing because you played it straight and it didn't fall straight.

            Pick a couple of numbers that mean something to you and ride 'em for a few days.  Birth year, house number, car tag etc...  I've hit my dad's year, my year, one of my sister's birthdays, a quad etc.

            GOOD LUCK!!! See Ya!

             

            P.S.  I see you're in TN which has computerized drawings.  I used to play on my way through to AR, but I quit once they went to computerized.  Again, GOOD LUCK!

            thanks Toney725.

            The computerized drawings certainly dont make me happy, but I will take what I can. I just hope they have some good auditors on their @$$es that arent paid off!

            GA has much better payout on the scratch offs, and KY is TERRIBLE with payout, so I feel like TN is a happy medium. TN scratchoffs are good though.

             

            Jrosina: I appreciate the input. I am starting to try and learn who to watch -- there are so many here it seems, especially across the different gaming levels.

            And I absolutely swear to upgrade my membership once I am able (no doubt when a good hit comes in)!

            Thanks for the input, and good luck to you as well!

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              Posted: April 21, 2010, 12:50 pm - IP Logged

              Thanks everybody.

              So exact I understand -- thats where 1234 has to be exactly in that order.

              Then does 'box' just mean it is 'any' order? are those one and the same?

              also, I am confused by the lottery slip showing 4 different payouts when I select 'any or exact order' something like 100/200/400/600. Seems like it mentions something about the placement of the numbers?

              Does this mean if I chose 1234 and the winning number is 1243 -- do I get a little more because the 1 and 2 are in the same spot?

              Box = any order.

              Using 1234, 1134, 1133 & 1113 as examples.

              If you play 1234 str/box and it falls 1324, you win $100 (24 way combo)

              If you play 1134 str/box and it falls 4311, you win $200 (1 double)

              If you play 1133 str/box and it falls 3311, you win $400 (double/double)

              If you play 1113 str/box and it falls 3111, you win $600 (triple)

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                Posted: April 21, 2010, 10:39 pm - IP Logged

                Box = any order.

                Using 1234, 1134, 1133 & 1113 as examples.

                If you play 1234 str/box and it falls 1324, you win $100 (24 way combo)

                If you play 1134 str/box and it falls 4311, you win $200 (1 double)

                If you play 1133 str/box and it falls 3311, you win $400 (double/double)

                If you play 1113 str/box and it falls 3111, you win $600 (triple)

                ok, I think I see.

                 

                so what if you play 2341 and it falls 1324? Is that still $100?

                 

                Or if you play 1311 and it falls 3111, what does that get?

                 

                I am starting to see it has a lot to do with placement of the numbers.

                Thanks for explaining, I feel like such a dumbx, but I have just never seen this explained or 'in motion' so to speak.

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                  Posted: April 21, 2010, 10:49 pm - IP Logged

                  Any other order than what you bet the number straight as...gets the boxed payout - you must play both straight and boxed.

                  If you say I want 1234 straight, it MUST come 1234 for the straight $2,500 win.

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                    Posted: April 22, 2010, 3:07 pm - IP Logged

                    ok, I think I see.

                     

                    so what if you play 2341 and it falls 1324? Is that still $100?

                     

                    Or if you play 1311 and it falls 3111, what does that get?

                     

                    I am starting to see it has a lot to do with placement of the numbers.

                    Thanks for explaining, I feel like such a dumbx, but I have just never seen this explained or 'in motion' so to speak.

                    1st question: Yes, if you play 2341 and it falls 1324 and you have it str/box, you still get $100

                    2nd question: If you play 1311 and it falls 3111 and you have it str/box, you still get $600

                    Grasshopper, One cannot gain knowledge if one never ask a question. Cool

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                      Posted: April 22, 2010, 4:35 pm - IP Logged

                      The best thing to do is to understand the odds,  overall BOXED/VS/STRAIGHT to hit straight is 1 in 10000, period no matter what,  the number it has to be in order.  Hitting box differs in the number of possible combos so the odds change if 1234 = ABCD the box odds are 1 in 417 since there are 24 possible box combos from a pick 4 with 4 differing numbers, if you have 1233= ABCC (a double) 12 possible combos the box odds are 1 in 833 and the payout is higher per dollar depending on the state, then you have a 1122 = AABB (a double double) the odds are 6 possible combos 1 in 1667 odds then the triple 1222 = ABBB )(a triple) possible combos 4 odds are 1 in 2500. And of course straight 1111 = AAAA (a straight) odds 1 in 10000.

                      It doesn't matter what box you play but depending on the possible amount of combos determines the payout the lower the possible combos the higher the odds and payout. 

                      I hope this helps.  I go by historical statistics.  I'll take a look at your state and suggest a couple of numbers.  Good luck!

                      how about for ohio?