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• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  The Digit System
  
  I have been programming for 25 years and took up a challenge to
  write a program that was capable of producing repeatable results  
  for pick-5 pick-6 lotteries.
  
  This is a small part of a system that I have been working on for
  many years I have had much success using this system up to the
  past few months. I am sharing this system in hopes that in doing
  so will improve my carma. "Give and it shall be given".
     
  I will not post the whole system as it would take 30 to 40 pages
  but will give a good working description that should allow those
  who are interested a starting place. I play 5-39 and 6-44 games.
  so most of the information I give will pertain to information I
  have gathered from these games.
  
  Some Definitions first
  
  ID = Independent digits. Digits 0-9 counted only once regardless of
       times within a set.
  
  TD = Total digits. Number of all digits within a set but does not
       include leading zero's
  
  DOD = Double odd digits. Numbers made from two odd digits
  
  DEV = Double even digit. Numbers made from two even digits
  
  MDN = Mixed digit numbers. Numbers made from 1-odd and 1-even digit
   
  
  Below are the last 3 draws for MO. show me cash-5   
  
  FRI  05/28/10   04 16 23 24 39
  THU  05/27/10   03 08 21 24 28
  WED  05/26/10   14 18 20 27 33
  
  To begin I would like you to look at the last 3 draws of show me cash.
  These draws are typical and at first glance nothing special. look again,
  
  draw #1, is made up of the digits "1-2-3-4-6-9"
  draw #2, is made up of the digits "1-2-3-4-8"
  draw #3, is made up of the digits "0-1-2-3-4-7-8"
  
  notice all the draws have digits "1-2-3-4" and two of the draws have the
  digit "8" in common.
     
  You might think this is a fluke, Check the drawings below
  
  MO. lotto         05/26/10, "10 12 16 32 33 44" "0,1,2,3,4,6"  
  Fl. fantasy 5     05/27/10, "14 23 27 29 32"    "1-2-3-4-7-9"  
  IL. little lotto  05/28/10, "18-26-32-33-39"    "1-2-3-6-8-9"  
  TN. Pick 5        05/28/10, "08-12-15-18-34"    "1-2-3-4-5-8"
  
  Are you interested yet? and these are the only 4 sites I checked when
  I began to write this. Funny it was there all along but went unnoticed.
  
  Don't get to excited yet because it's not that simple. Like I said I
  have been searching and writing lottery software for 20 years and I
  don't have millions, yet.
  
  Most drawing sets consist of 6 digits, Remember I said Most. A bell
  curve will peek on 5 or 6 for most any lottery. Take another look at
  your lottery and you will find that most draw sets will have the digits
  "1-2-3" in a large percent of draws with many of those having more then
  one of at least 2 of the "1-2-3" base digits within it.
  
  Next consider that the largest percent of draws contain at least one
  number that consist of only one digit, "number below 10" and many
  sets contain two single digit numbers. In a 5 number draw the maximum
  TD possible is ten.  
  
  Now for the mathmen, 6 digits in a 5/39 lottery can yield over 6000
  combos depending on the 6 digits selected. Done that! been there.
  I don’t need your brain power to tell me what I already know. I don't
  want any odds quoted concerning this. Believe me I have ran every
  combo of digits in every way conceivable. At one time I was running
  4, really fast, striped down computers 24/7/365 crunching numbers
  my own version of a home super. I will give those that wish to baffle
  a question to ponder. I say odds are for the losers. I know of no real
  lottery in the world that has sold all winning combo's within one
  drawing but yet lotteries are won every day by everyday people many
  of which purchased a one dollar play. What’s the odds on that. A person
  will win or lose not based on the odds but on the ticket he or she holds
  in their hand. A lottery player considers the odds but plays anyway,
  Kind of like a certain paint store worker that may of considered the
  odds but choose to sing anyway. And as Forest would say "that's all I
  got to say about that"
     
  Now for those who like to dream big, and hope to one day pull down a
  really big one, I will continue. Dreams are good and I hope all your
  dreams come true. As I stated above it would seem easy to build a
  set of winning numbers based on the info just provided. To put it
  simply, It is not. Many draws will follow this path but not all.
  Don't expect, but hope that the information provided in this post
  will help your dreams come true.  
  
  notice that I pad all single digit numbers with a "0". This digit  
  will be ignored except in some cases.  
  
  Step #1
  compile a list of at least 30 drawings. They can be a random sample.
  A current day to day drawing list is no better then a random sample
  I for years believed that the patterns I found would repeat until I
  discovered that the patterns were also random. All roads will
  intersect with another if they run far enough. That being said,
  go through each drawing on your list and mark how many TD, ID, DOD,
  DEV, MDN digits are in each draw, When writing down the sets, arrange
  them in 10 columns, the numbers 12 18 22 35 39 would look like this
  include leading zero's in this list
   
  | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | TD | ID | DOD | DEV | MDN
  |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|____|____|____|_____|_____|____
  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    |    |    |     |     |     
  | 1 | 2 | 1 | 8 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 9  | 10 | 6  |  2  |  1  |  2
  |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|____|____|____|_____|_____|____
  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    |    |    |     |     |   
  
  place them down the page so they can be easy to read from top to bottom.  
  feel free to copy and paste this to use as a template you can print.
     
  Step #2
  On another sheet of paper add the number of digits in each of
  the 10 columns of digits, count the padded "0" digits in this step.  
  
  Dig      | 0's | 1's | 2's | 3's | 4's | 5's | 6's | 7's | 8's | 9's
  _________|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____
  col [#1] |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
  _________|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____
  col [#2] |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
  _________|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____
  col [#3] |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
  _________|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____
  
  continue to col [10]
  
  
  Step #3
  On another sheet of paper convert the number sets to digits, do not
  include the padded "0" in this list. "08-12-15-18-34" to "1-2-3-4-5-8"
  each digit is counted only once and then to the right of this place the
  digits that were not in the draw
  
  Draw set        Digits hit      Digits out
  08-12-15-18-34  1-2-3-4-5-8     6-7-9-0
     
  Step #4
  Study the list you have made and trends will begin to appear. I say trends
  not patterns. A trend is like a pattern but it is not a pattern. All lotteries
  develop trends. look at each column of numbers and decide which digit hits
  most often for that column and write them down. On a new sheet of paper draw
  10 lines, one for each digit. ___ ___   ___ ___   ___ ___   ___ ___   ___ ___     
  make a list of the best ID, TD, DOD, DEV, MDN, values that hit most often.
  now using the information gleamed from the data sheets fill in the best digit
  for each place on the line. Next look at the digits and see if all the data
  from ID,TD,DOD,DEV,MDN fits your selection. if not then repeat the process.
  do not be concerned with how your numbers appear on the lines as they may not
  be in any order. Keep your data sheets for reuse or make several different
  ones and play a set or two from each.
  
  As stated above this is but a small part of a much larger system. My system
  allows a range of settings for each value + wildcards then generates all
  possible combo's then filters them and then finally wheels them down to 10
  or so of the best sets. I have hit as many as four 4/5 in one day. I have
  won three 5/6 using this system.       
  
  I gave my sister in law a small list of numbers to play and within a week she
  had hit two or three 4/5 plays and many 3/5. This system does work but requires some skill and some gut instinct to make the final selections.
  
  Good luck and if interest is high enough I will maybe add some more at a later
  date.   
  
  Try to flush your mind of what you think will happen, several years ago I wanted
  to know what I was doing wrong. I wrote into my software the ability to track
  my inputs and then report back were I made mistakes. Guess what? I made the same
  mistakes over and over again, I let my personal preferences overrun what the data was saying, "that can't happen again", that sort of thing. I also included the ability to see what changes would have increased my winnings, There were many times when one click of a mouse would have won me millions.   
     
  Enjoy

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• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  Sorry for the grafts they got mixed up somehow, I pasted this post from microsoft word

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• GASMETERGUY

  

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  RL

  I for one wish to commend you for posting this information.  I firmly believe you are traveling the right path.  If there is an algorithym to be found, some one doing the research you are doing will find the answer.

  I, for one,  would like to know more about your thinking.  I am sure there are others here that would join me.

  In which  platforms do you code?  Excel?  VB?  C++?
• GASMETERGUY

  

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  I just checked the report card for Missouri.  I see that all your state run lotteries are RNG's.  That's too bad.  I think you will see a huge difference between true lotto draws (i.e. ball drop) and computer generated numbers.  That huge difference (and I mean HUGE) will skew all your data.  What you will find sometimes true for RGN's will be rare for ball drop and vice versa. 

  I have no idea what causes that difference but would I privy to the inner workings of the RGN lottory, I think I would be shocked at how the winning numbers were determined.   

  My purpose is not to deter you from what you are doing but to warn you that should the day come when you apply your technique to ball drop lotto's you will find that what works for RGN will not apply to ball drops.

  May I also suggest you read as much of Lantern/Excaluber or RJOH comments as you may find.  They also are treading the same path as you.
• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on May 30, 2010

  I just checked the report card for Missouri.  I see that all your state run lotteries are RNG's.  That's too bad.  I think you will see a huge difference between true lotto draws (i.e. ball drop) and computer generated numbers.  That huge difference (and I mean HUGE) will skew all your data.  What you will find sometimes true for RGN's will be rare for ball drop and vice versa. 

  I have no idea what causes that difference but would I privy to the inner workings of the RGN lottory, I think I would be shocked at how the winning numbers were determined.   

  My purpose is not to deter you from what you are doing but to warn you that should the day come when you apply your technique to ball drop lotto's you will find that what works for RGN will not apply to ball drops.

  May I also suggest you read as much of Lantern/Excaluber or RJOH comments as you may find.  They also are treading the same path as you.

  This program was designed and worked best when MO. still had the ball drop lottery.  I hate RGN, Don't trust them.   Check this against power ball and mega millions too you will find it works just as good.  Some times depending on the trends it may seem run astray but it always comes home. 

  Thanks for your reply.

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• joker17

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  Years ago I had something similar in mind, but not as elaborate as your of course...lol

  With the p-5 in Florida and the 1-36 matrix.

  01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32-33-34-35-36

  Considering the first digit can never go over 3, I looked at some of the past winning numbers and tried something like below:

  0_   0_   1_   1_   2_

  0_   0_   1_   2_  3_

  And so on, filling in the blanks to the right of the digits. I got this idea because when I looked back on the Fantasy Five numbers in Florida I was seeing a lot of 0s...1s...and 2s.....Below are actual winning numbers from Florida..

   

  Sat, May 29, 2010.................... 04-08-10-27-34

   Fri, May 28, 2010.................... 07-10-15-20-21

   Thu, May 27, 2010 ..................14-23-27-29-32

   Wed, May 26, 2010 ...............05-08-13-18-26

   Tue, May 25, 2010................. 02-09-19-20-26

   Mon, May 24, 2010 ................03-08-13-17-30

   Sun, May 23, 2010................ 13-14-25-32-33

   Sat, May 22, 2010................ 14-15-19-24-26

   Fri, May 21, 2010.................. 04-14-24-27-30

   Thu, May 20, 2010 ................01-09-16-23-33

   

  Getting the 0s and 1s were easy, but If we could just concentrate on the behavior of the second digits, like the p3....in this case 1-9, and 2-9, something may come out of it. I racked my brain for months but only came somewhat close, and nothing really came out of it.

  Thanx for bringing this back to mind. Maybe your expertise will shine some light for me.

  It would be great to put all that info into a program and sell it. I'd buy it based on your testimony of success.
• joker17

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  Quote: Originally posted by joker17 on May 30, 2010

  Years ago I had something similar in mind, but not as elaborate as your of course...lol

  With the p-5 in Florida and the 1-36 matrix.

  01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32-33-34-35-36

  Considering the first digit can never go over 3, I looked at some of the past winning numbers and tried something like below:

  0_   0_   1_   1_   2_

  0_   0_   1_   2_  3_

  And so on, filling in the blanks to the right of the digits. I got this idea because when I looked back on the Fantasy Five numbers in Florida I was seeing a lot of 0s...1s...and 2s.....Below are actual winning numbers from Florida..

   

  Sat, May 29, 2010.................... 04-08-10-27-34

   Fri, May 28, 2010.................... 07-10-15-20-21

   Thu, May 27, 2010 ..................14-23-27-29-32

   Wed, May 26, 2010 ...............05-08-13-18-26

   Tue, May 25, 2010................. 02-09-19-20-26

   Mon, May 24, 2010 ................03-08-13-17-30

   Sun, May 23, 2010................ 13-14-25-32-33

   Sat, May 22, 2010................ 14-15-19-24-26

   Fri, May 21, 2010.................. 04-14-24-27-30

   Thu, May 20, 2010 ................01-09-16-23-33

   

  Getting the 0s and 1s were easy, but If we could just concentrate on the behavior of the second digits, like the p3....in this case 1-9, and 2-9, something may come out of it. I racked my brain for months but only came somewhat close, and nothing really came out of it.

  Thanx for bringing this back to mind. Maybe your expertise will shine some light for me.

  It would be great to put all that info into a program and sell it. I'd buy it based on your testimony of success.

  Here are the same winning numbers above, but stripped of their second digits.

  Sat, May 29, 2010.................... 0_-0_-1_-2_-3_

   Fri, May 28, 2010.................... 0_-1_-1_-2_-2_

   Thu, May 27, 2010 ..................1_-2_-2_-2_-3_

   Wed, May 26, 2010 ...............0_-0_-1_-1_-2_

   Tue, May 25, 2010................. 0_-0_-1_-2_-2_

   Mon, May 24, 2010 ................0_-0_-1_-1_-3_

   Sun, May 23, 2010................ 1_-1_-2_-3_-3_

   Sat, May 22, 2010................ 1_-1_-1_-2_-2_

   Fri, May 21, 2010.................. 0_-1_-2_-2_-3_

   Thu, May 20, 2010 ................0_-0_-1_-2_-3_
• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  Thanks, This was my reasons for Posting. I just hope that people understand that this is not a key to 

  getting rich quick, just another way of looking at things.   Another tool in the belt so to say, Good tools

  make better craftsmen.

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• Winlotta

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on May 30, 2010

  Sorry for the grafts they got mixed up somehow, I pasted this post from microsoft word

  Graph lines ?

   

  Step #2     On another sheet of paper add the number of digits in each of the 10 columns of digits, count the padded "0" digits in this step.

  Dig	0's	1's	2's	3's	4's	5's	6's	7's	8's	9's
  col [#1]|
  col [#2]
  col [#3]
  col [#4]
  col [#5]
  col [#6]
  col [#7]
  col [#8]
  col [#9]
  col [#10]

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• Winlotta

  

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  Try to flush your mind of what you think will happen, several years ago I wantedto know what I was doing wrong. I wrote into my software the ability to trackmy inputs and then report back were I made mistakes. Guess what? I made the samemistakes over and over again, I let my personal preferences overrun what the data was saying, "that can't happen again", that sort of thing. I also included the ability to see what changes would have increased my winnings, There were many times when one click of a mouse would have won me millions

  Ridding the mind of personal preferences is one of the most difficult things for me to do - Your program is Excel? I have some success with Access but terrible with Excel; I wonder about adapting this to Access.......

  

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• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  Quote: Originally posted by joker17 on May 30, 2010

  Here are the same winning numbers above, but stripped of their second digits.

  Sat, May 29, 2010.................... 0_-0_-1_-2_-3_

   Fri, May 28, 2010.................... 0_-1_-1_-2_-2_

   Thu, May 27, 2010 ..................1_-2_-2_-2_-3_

   Wed, May 26, 2010 ...............0_-0_-1_-1_-2_

   Tue, May 25, 2010................. 0_-0_-1_-2_-2_

   Mon, May 24, 2010 ................0_-0_-1_-1_-3_

   Sun, May 23, 2010................ 1_-1_-2_-3_-3_

   Sat, May 22, 2010................ 1_-1_-1_-2_-2_

   Fri, May 21, 2010.................. 0_-1_-2_-2_-3_

   Thu, May 20, 2010 ................0_-0_-1_-2_-3_

  joker17

   

  I started the same way, glad to know someone out there has had the same idea. I am sure you

  have made a second list with the first number striped.  The first digits are the easiest to nail but

  the second digits can be made more selectable using a few tricks. I will post them at a later date

  A good study of the data may not make clear the digit to select.  My program allows for up to five

  digits to be played and I normally play 3.  Here is handy hint, Don't chase the lottery let it come

  to you.  Buying  more tickets is not the way to go, play fewer smarter tickets and when you miss,

  and you will, just think your one step closer.  I can lose $5 bucks and not be to upset.   The second

  digits seem to bounce wildly in a unpredictable manner but  if you tally the totals and play the most

  consistant it will hit.  A larger database is very helpful for this type of play. If you look at all the possible

  combinations of just first digits you will see that there are 3  or 4 that hit the most. Even if you take

  the top 5  as a base set for a five dollar play you will be pleased with the outcome. Never measure

  success as money won but instead with how many of the many choices you did get right.   The second

  digits are a little harder to pin down but consider this, Its ramdom.  Make say 3 selections for each

  second digit and fill them in.  If you have already selected your values for DOD, DEV, and so on

  you will find that many times this process will remove many of your choices you have made so don't

  labor over any digit for too long.  I have made this a little long for others to read and please don't

  think I am preaching at you.

   

  Again many thanks for your input, it has no doupt helped others understand this system

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• RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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  Thanks for the graft.  Sorry no Excel or Access.

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• joker17

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  Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on May 30, 2010

  joker17

   

  I started the same way, glad to know someone out there has had the same idea. I am sure you

  have made a second list with the first number striped.  The first digits are the easiest to nail but

  the second digits can be made more selectable using a few tricks. I will post them at a later date

  A good study of the data may not make clear the digit to select.  My program allows for up to five

  digits to be played and I normally play 3.  Here is handy hint, Don't chase the lottery let it come

  to you.  Buying  more tickets is not the way to go, play fewer smarter tickets and when you miss,

  and you will, just think your one step closer.  I can lose $5 bucks and not be to upset.   The second

  digits seem to bounce wildly in a unpredictable manner but  if you tally the totals and play the most

  consistant it will hit.  A larger database is very helpful for this type of play. If you look at all the possible

  combinations of just first digits you will see that there are 3  or 4 that hit the most. Even if you take

  the top 5  as a base set for a five dollar play you will be pleased with the outcome. Never measure

  success as money won but instead with how many of the many choices you did get right.   The second

  digits are a little harder to pin down but consider this, Its ramdom.  Make say 3 selections for each

  second digit and fill them in.  If you have already selected your values for DOD, DEV, and so on

  you will find that many times this process will remove many of your choices you have made so don't

  labor over any digit for too long.  I have made this a little long for others to read and please don't

  think I am preaching at you.

   

  Again many thanks for your input, it has no doupt helped others understand this system

  Thanx for the reply.

  The variables are much harder to fill in the second digits, as you pointed out. I'll take your advice on just the handful to use. That also reminded me of another subject in the lottery discussion forum concerning the guy who won the PB and claimed he used a system. I decided to read more about him, and he stated what you said. He studied the past numbers and tallied up the  numbers that showed up the most and played them. it's not guranteed to hit the JP, but it's a good start.

   

  Below is the list with the first digit stripped.

  Sat, May 29, 2010.................... _4-_8-_0-_7-_4

   Fri, May 28, 2010.................... _7-_0-_1-_0-_1

   Thu, May 27, 2010 .................._4-_3-_7-_9-_2

   Wed, May 26, 2010 ..............._5-_8-_3-_8-_6

   Tue, May 25, 2010................. _2-_9-_9-_0-_6

   Mon, May 24, 2010 ................_3-_8-_3-_7-_0

   Sun, May 23, 2010................ _3-_4-_5-_2-_3

   Sat, May 22, 2010................ _4-_5-_1-_4-_6

   Fri, May 21, 2010.................. _4-_4-_4-_7-_0

   Thu, May 20, 2010 ................_1-_9-_6-_3-_3

   

   

   
• joker17

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  Ha ha ....I just saw something funny. My birthday was on May 20th, 1964. So close.....lol

  Thu, May 20, 2010 ................_1-_9-_6-_3-_3

   
• winsumloosesum

  

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  May 30, 2010, 7:28 pm

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  Thanks for posting your system.

  Have a couple questions:

  Some Definitions first
  
  ID = Independent digits. Digits 0-9 counted only once regardless of
       times within a set.
  
  TD = Total digits. Number of all digits within a set but does not
       include leading zero's
  
  DOD = Double odd digits. Numbers made from two odd digits
  
  DEV = Double even digit. Numbers made from two even digits
  
  MDN = Mixed digit numbers. Numbers made from 1-odd and 1-even digit

  The DOD, DEV, and MDN.  Do we include the padded zero's?

  For example if we have a 08, do we say this is a "DEV"?

  Thanks!!