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Letter Validation Codes on Tickets ? Are they ALWAYS correct ?

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Posted: September 8, 2010, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

I buy a lot of scratch offs in Maryland and Pennsylvania.

Apparently, MD has no ryhme nor reason to letters that appear when you scratch off certain areas of the tickets.

But in Pennsylvania I was told losing code letters by a gas station manager.

He told me that Q , B , D , P , K , Z are ALWAYS losing tickets.

I hope he is right because at this point I dont scratch further when I see those letters. I wonder if the letters are 100% foolproof though.

He told me winning tickets have standard codes of twy / fiv / twy / try / fve / hun / clm

Any other states have letters to validate winning or losing tickets ?

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    Posted: September 8, 2010, 9:40 pm - IP Logged

    I also throw them away at the store at times. Machines aren't 100% foolproof, but I'd say the chance of a ticket with the losing code being a winner is VERY small. I wouldn't worry.

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      Posted: September 8, 2010, 9:52 pm - IP Logged

      http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/211417/1608000

      Don't Chase... Compare and Narrow

      The Cheaper the Cost the Higher the Profit

      Many Winners to You.

      D_A

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        Posted: September 11, 2010, 9:39 pm - IP Logged

        Thanks

        Now Im rather freaked. Ive thrown away at least 15 tickets I assumed were losers from the codes in PA. And also VA.

        Now Im wondering if teh VA tickets were winners (I spent several hundred dollars and only got 1 winner out of 20 plus)

        Yikes.

         

        http://www.lotterypost.com/topic/187244

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          Posted: September 11, 2010, 9:59 pm - IP Logged

          I buy a lot of scratch offs in Maryland and Pennsylvania.

          Apparently, MD has no ryhme nor reason to letters that appear when you scratch off certain areas of the tickets.

          But in Pennsylvania I was told losing code letters by a gas station manager.

          He told me that Q , B , D , P , K , Z are ALWAYS losing tickets.

          I hope he is right because at this point I dont scratch further when I see those letters. I wonder if the letters are 100% foolproof though.

          He told me winning tickets have standard codes of twy / fiv / twy / try / fve / hun / clm

          Any other states have letters to validate winning or losing tickets ?

          Actually, I've had the opposite happen - I've scratched off a ticket in VA which was a loser - no matches anywhere, no special symbols, etc. But the code said TWY ($20) or TWF ($25), so I took it to the cashier and she said it was a winner. Now my father on the other hand, he had a $5 winner in VA - it had the matching numbers & the FIV ($5) code, the cashier scanned it, handed it back to us, and said it wasn't a winner. We carried it to atleast 2 other shops, all said the same thing. L8r All, Pogo Approve

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            Actually, I've had the opposite happen - I've scratched off a ticket in VA which was a loser - no matches anywhere, no special symbols, etc. But the code said TWY ($20) or TWF ($25), so I took it to the cashier and she said it was a winner. Now my father on the other hand, he had a $5 winner in VA - it had the matching numbers & the FIV ($5) code, the cashier scanned it, handed it back to us, and said it wasn't a winner. We carried it to atleast 2 other shops, all said the same thing. L8r All, Pogo Approve

            How weird ! Thanks for sharing. Think I may ask my BF to recheck all the tickets I bought last week in VA.

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              Posted: September 12, 2010, 3:56 pm - IP Logged

              Never Never Never go by just the validation codes. Unless you want to risk throwing away a top prize. After $500 I believe the validation codes are all random.

               

               

              I've had a top prize that had the validation code:  NEW

               

              Ive heard of people playing by just the validation codes and tossing them out if they dont spell out a generic amount, but that is a big mistake

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                Posted: September 12, 2010, 5:56 pm - IP Logged

                In PA they have 6 losing letters; if I don't see a combo of them, I would definitely check the ticket.

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                  Posted: September 13, 2010, 8:00 pm - IP Logged

                  Yes, it looks like PA plays it straight and doesn't confuse people. Gas station owner told me today that CLM is on all tickets over 1k.

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                    Hey everyone. New to these forums, but not to the lotto.

                     

                    I am currently living in Arlington, VA- and buy lotto tickets often. I have noticed a common trend among losers in VA- every loser I have ever bought had the code BZP, or BDP.

                    Can anyone confirm another code for a loser in VA? This could help identify those $600+ winners and an actual loser (I don't play by the letters, but if someone does it could help them)

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                      Sure does make one wonder. In PA the Q, P, Z, B, K, J are losers....some people scratch off enough to reveal a letter - if a loser, they toss it w/o

                      playing the game at all. I felt bad for the people that didn't know this when PA changed the method of identifying winners. Used to be parenthesis

                      were used with the winning dollar amount inside them. When they changed to letter codes, some people were still using the long line of numbers

                      to identify their winners....I wonder how many were tossed. I don't think the lottery did a good enough job of letting players know of the new

                      change.

                      It's been awhile since the letter codes started, I would think the word got out amongst players but I wonder if PA will change yet again, the method

                      of winner identification. If they do, they need to let players know in an effective way so there is no confusion.

                      I saw a ticket from Maine once...the letter codes spelled out $200 - nowhere on that ticket was anything that matched to win $200. I guess the

                      best way to be sure is totally understand the game being played and if you have a match, you have a winner.

                      Speaking of understanding...lol....PA had some tricks up its sleeve with some of the more recent tickets. Winner take All and Triple Bingo for example.

                      LOW...mighty LOW.....they included a play area above the normal play area that seemed to be involved in the game and NOT playable. Even the

                      scratch part of the play area seemed to be of a different material...still scratchable but blended in. Pretty bad - if that was the intention...to deceive.

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                        I've also seen a scratch off ticket (was either in OH or VA) that had an extra scratch area on the back of the ticket. It was some kind of casino-themed ticket. The only way I discovered it was, after my wife had scratched and thought she lost- I wanted to look at the odds on the back. That's when I noticed the extra area, and it was a $5 winner.

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                          Posted: September 14, 2010, 11:54 am - IP Logged

                          always always scratch entire card sometimes codes are wrong or they are not what you think they are i always scratch the entire area  lesonook

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                            Posted: September 14, 2010, 12:02 pm - IP Logged

                            Eek

                            Get out! On the back!

                            That is dirty.

                            I'm can't help believe there might have been a mini-$urplu$ for PA with the inception of the *improved* letter method or the disguised play areas.

                            Placing a play area on the back might have also created a mini-surplus for OH/VA.

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                              Posted: September 14, 2010, 12:04 pm - IP Logged

                              always always scratch entire card sometimes codes are wrong or they are not what you think they are i always scratch the entire area  lesonook

                              I Agree!

                              Most are easy to determine whether they are winners or not. But it certainly does not hurt to scratch the whole play area lesonook, I agree.