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Posted: January 27, 2012, 8:14 am - IP Logged

Hey Folks :)

I am so glad I found this forum, it has definitely given me some great ideas on what to do and what not to do if I ever win. Lately I've been looking over some of the lottery success stories and one thing that I found of interest in a 2008 article on the idahopress site was about Brad Duke's dream to meet Metallica.

"Brad planned for fun, too. When he first won, he announced intentions to splurge on a new house, car, mountain bike, a trip with friends and a meeting with his favorite band, Metallica."

A follow up further down the article...

"Metallica has yet to meet with Brad, only offering to charge him a $3 million fee for a private concert, which Brad said "put a damper on things." The band has so far turned down Brad's offer to attend a recording session in return for a donation to its favorite charity."

Absolutely rediculous, Metallica is litteraly set for life and from what I understand from the article, they are not willing to meet with a longtime fan that has nothing but good intentions in mind unless he forks over a huge sum for their own pockets...

I lost a lot of respect for them during the whole Napster fiasco years ago. After this, I'd definitely stop listening to their music. Any thoughts?

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    Posted: January 27, 2012, 8:40 am - IP Logged

    Hey Folks :)

    I am so glad I found this forum, it has definitely given me some great ideas on what to do and what not to do if I ever win. Lately I've been looking over some of the lottery success stories and one thing that I found of interest in a 2008 article on the idahopress site was about Brad Duke's dream to meet Metallica.

    "Brad planned for fun, too. When he first won, he announced intentions to splurge on a new house, car, mountain bike, a trip with friends and a meeting with his favorite band, Metallica."

    A follow up further down the article...

    "Metallica has yet to meet with Brad, only offering to charge him a $3 million fee for a private concert, which Brad said "put a damper on things." The band has so far turned down Brad's offer to attend a recording session in return for a donation to its favorite charity."

    Absolutely rediculous, Metallica is litteraly set for life and from what I understand from the article, they are not willing to meet with a longtime fan that has nothing but good intentions in mind unless he forks over a huge sum for their own pockets...

    I lost a lot of respect for them during the whole Napster fiasco years ago. After this, I'd definitely stop listening to their music. Any thoughts?

    Maybe Metallica feels doing that for one person will leave them open for many requsts from other people for the same privilege.

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      RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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      Posted: January 27, 2012, 9:03 am - IP Logged

      Hey Folks :)

      I am so glad I found this forum, it has definitely given me some great ideas on what to do and what not to do if I ever win. Lately I've been looking over some of the lottery success stories and one thing that I found of interest in a 2008 article on the idahopress site was about Brad Duke's dream to meet Metallica.

      "Brad planned for fun, too. When he first won, he announced intentions to splurge on a new house, car, mountain bike, a trip with friends and a meeting with his favorite band, Metallica."

      A follow up further down the article...

      "Metallica has yet to meet with Brad, only offering to charge him a $3 million fee for a private concert, which Brad said "put a damper on things." The band has so far turned down Brad's offer to attend a recording session in return for a donation to its favorite charity."

      Absolutely rediculous, Metallica is litteraly set for life and from what I understand from the article, they are not willing to meet with a longtime fan that has nothing but good intentions in mind unless he forks over a huge sum for their own pockets...

      I lost a lot of respect for them during the whole Napster fiasco years ago. After this, I'd definitely stop listening to their music. Any thoughts?

      Before Brad became a multi-millionaire, he would have been happy to buy a high priced ticket to attend one of their concerts with thousands of other fans and not given a thought about the money they made preforming.  Once he became a millionaire he expected a personal preformace for nothing, sounds like he was a greedy winner.

      * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
      * your best chance at winning a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
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        Posted: January 27, 2012, 9:09 am - IP Logged

        Maybe Metallica feels doing that for one person will leave them open for many requsts from other people for the same privilege.

        Good possibility and I can understand the need to limit certain activities, but it also would have been excellent publicity for them.

        I'd reckon they could have directed any further requests towards their legal team to filter and to keep it from getting overwhelming.

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          Posted: January 27, 2012, 9:17 am - IP Logged

          Over the years I'm sure a band as successful as Metallica has had many odd, weird, strange and perhaps (sometimes) legit requests from the average fan. They don't know "Brad" from Adam...why should they meet him? Just because he won the lottery???!! Donations and charity's aside...they still don't know him from Aunt Myrtle down in Timbuktu so they are under no obligation whatsoever to meet or perform for him. As far as publicity...they probably don't care about that...they are well known and established.

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            Before Brad became a multi-millionaire, he would have been happy to buy a high priced ticket to attend one of their concerts with thousands of other fans and not given a thought about the money they made preforming.  Once he became a millionaire he expected a personal preformace for nothing, sounds like he was a greedy winner.

            I don't think so, according to the old article, it seems he wanted to exchange a donation to Metallica's favorite charity in exchange for the meeting. Money going to a good cause, good publicity for Metallica and one fan's dream fullfilled.

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              Posted: January 27, 2012, 9:39 am - IP Logged

              Over the years I'm sure a band as successful as Metallica has had many odd, weird, strange and perhaps (sometimes) legit requests from the average fan. They don't know "Brad" from Adam...why should they meet him? Just because he won the lottery???!! Donations and charity's aside...they still don't know him from Aunt Myrtle down in Timbuktu so they are under no obligation whatsoever to meet or perform for him. As far as publicity...they probably don't care about that...they are well known and established.

              Good point. After reading the article, I was a little disappointed in the way things turned out. Granted, winning the Lottery does not give someone a right to fulfill every single dream. Just seems it could have been different and for the better. :) For being in the public eye, it seems that Mr. Duke is doing an exceptional job of avoiding the typical pitfalls of the majority of Lottery winners.

              I am not even going to start on the opposite side of the spectrum, there's one well known failure that I'd love to recommend a Darwin Award to.

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                Posted: January 27, 2012, 10:40 am - IP Logged

                awwww, poor brad. Is he holding his breath in protest? what's next on his agenda, a tourist flight to mars for only 5 thousand bucks?

                you know, i wish i had these problems

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                  awwww, poor brad. Is he holding his breath in protest? what's next on his agenda, a tourist flight to mars for only 5 thousand bucks?

                  you know, i wish i had these problems

                  Wow, I guess folks around here don't like him too much. After seeing so many fails, I thought seeing someone do something worthwhile with their fortune was pretty cool. I am new to this forum, was there something I missed?Sulk Off

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                    Posted: January 27, 2012, 2:19 pm - IP Logged

                    He should have donted to MAke-A-Wish foundation, they probably have more clout to make the request happen... but then again he wasnt dying or anything....

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                      He should have donted to MAke-A-Wish foundation, they probably have more clout to make the request happen... but then again he wasnt dying or anything....

                      I asked my Wife for a 2nd opinion, she's got a pretty good knack at seeing things that I've sometimes missed. She thought it would have been best for him to organize a charitable concert to get his best shot at meeting them.  Can't say I disagree with her, in theory if done right it could possibly work.

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                        I asked my Wife for a 2nd opinion, she's got a pretty good knack at seeing things that I've sometimes missed. She thought it would have been best for him to organize a charitable concert to get his best shot at meeting them.  Can't say I disagree with her, in theory if done right it could possibly work.

                        Hard to say what to make of it. Probably dealing with booking agents or PR people.

                        Then you have the problem of what was meant by a private concert?

                        Would concert dates have to be rearranged or cancelled?

                        How many tickets do they normally sell?

                        Does he want a full show with the works? Lighting? Stage?

                        So many variables come into play, it is hard to say who was asking too much.

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                          I don't think so, according to the old article, it seems he wanted to exchange a donation to Metallica's favorite charity in exchange for the meeting. Money going to a good cause, good publicity for Metallica and one fan's dream fullfilled.

                          Who is he to say they should do a show for him if he gives money to a charity? Just pay the band and let everybody give to their own charities as they see fit. I can understand perfectly the way Metallica felt about the deal. He's not their manager or booking agent, they don't work for him. If you want to meet them or have them perform for you, pay them. If you want to give to a charity, do it. But don't try to hold them hostage to some touchy-feely fantasy of yours. He's gotta be a lib.


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

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                            Wow, I guess folks around here don't like him too much. After seeing so many fails, I thought seeing someone do something worthwhile with their fortune was pretty cool. I am new to this forum, was there something I missed?Sulk Off

                            Folks around here don't know Brad except by name and that's only because they read about him winning a multi-million dollars lottery jackpot.  They have no reason to like him, dislike him or care about what he does with his fortune any more than any other lottery winner.

                            * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
                            * your best chance at winning a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
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                              Wow, I guess folks around here don't like him too much. After seeing so many fails, I thought seeing someone do something worthwhile with their fortune was pretty cool. I am new to this forum, was there something I missed?Sulk Off

                              It's the unmitigated gall of the request.

                              Here's what he's telling Metallica: "I want you to do a job for me because it's always been a fantasy of mine BUT I don't want to pay you for your work, I'm going to donate your pay to some charity."

                              Pffffffftttttt.


                                                                           
                                                   
                                                                       

                               

                               

                               

                               

                                                                                                                                 

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