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Why can't the US be like other countries and not tax lottery winners?

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Posted: March 14, 2012, 11:33 am - IP Logged

Hi,

Why does the US have to tax all lottery winners. In other countries like Canada and the UK, anyone who wins a jackpot prize or any prize gets to keep their entire winnings and not have to pay taxes on their winnings. I am someone who has never made much money in their job and  feel we are taxed enough. When I hear someone in Canada who wins 1 Million dollars it's great to know they actually get the entire amount and do not have to deal with most of that amount being eaten up by taxes. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled to win anything but the idea of being taxed on even a 1,000 win is depressing. In all actuality it sounds like a falsehood saying someone won a million dollars when it isn't a million after paying out taxes. I guess I'm just wishing we could be like Canada and other countries who let people keep their entire winnings. Just wondered what other people think.

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    Posted: March 14, 2012, 11:38 am - IP Logged

    Maybe in an alternate universe, where things make sense.

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      Posted: March 14, 2012, 12:27 pm - IP Logged

      What arent we taxed on in the US ?

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        Posted: March 14, 2012, 12:31 pm - IP Logged

        Come to uk. They dont tax lottery but taxes everything else.Big Smile

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          Posted: March 14, 2012, 12:54 pm - IP Logged

          Hi,

          Why does the US have to tax all lottery winners. In other countries like Canada and the UK, anyone who wins a jackpot prize or any prize gets to keep their entire winnings and not have to pay taxes on their winnings. I am someone who has never made much money in their job and  feel we are taxed enough. When I hear someone in Canada who wins 1 Million dollars it's great to know they actually get the entire amount and do not have to deal with most of that amount being eaten up by taxes. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled to win anything but the idea of being taxed on even a 1,000 win is depressing. In all actuality it sounds like a falsehood saying someone won a million dollars when it isn't a million after paying out taxes. I guess I'm just wishing we could be like Canada and other countries who let people keep their entire winnings. Just wondered what other people think.

          In a word - Spending.

          No other government in the world spends like ours, so we need to tax everything possible.

          We are buried in an avalanche of debt right now and the current administration thinks the way out is through more spending.

          We're now funding studies on how men wash their packages in Zimbabwe and why Chinese hookers drink so much.

          We need to know these things. It's a matter of national security.


                                                       
                               
                                                   

           

           

           

           

                                                                                                             

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            Posted: March 14, 2012, 2:28 pm - IP Logged

            The reason why you have to pay taxes on the lottery is probably because you are not highly taxed on fuel and other like cigarettes and beer for example. Don't forget that you have to pay your military in Afghanistan, Irak and other. You pay every single soldier, gun and bullet. I don't live there, I got the news here on internet about huge debts because of Irak. Or, they just spend it there, if it isn't debt, it was just huge budget.

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              Posted: March 14, 2012, 2:36 pm - IP Logged

              Hi,

              Why does the US have to tax all lottery winners. In other countries like Canada and the UK, anyone who wins a jackpot prize or any prize gets to keep their entire winnings and not have to pay taxes on their winnings. I am someone who has never made much money in their job and  feel we are taxed enough. When I hear someone in Canada who wins 1 Million dollars it's great to know they actually get the entire amount and do not have to deal with most of that amount being eaten up by taxes. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled to win anything but the idea of being taxed on even a 1,000 win is depressing. In all actuality it sounds like a falsehood saying someone won a million dollars when it isn't a million after paying out taxes. I guess I'm just wishing we could be like Canada and other countries who let people keep their entire winnings. Just wondered what other people think.

              If you look around, you'll find those gov'ts shafting their citizens in other ways.

              In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
              Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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                Posted: March 14, 2012, 2:50 pm - IP Logged

                The reason why you have to pay taxes on the lottery is probably because you are not highly taxed on fuel and other like cigarettes and beer for example. Don't forget that you have to pay your military in Afghanistan, Irak and other. You pay every single soldier, gun and bullet. I don't live there, I got the news here on internet about huge debts because of Irak. Or, they just spend it there, if it isn't debt, it was just huge budget.

                "You pay every single soldier, gun and bullet."

                Yeah, that's a price Americans have always paid to free people from tyrants around the world.

                We've paid a heavy price in blood too.

                And we paid it in Europe to keep the Germans from stompin' your asses into the ground.

                Otherwise you'd be goose-stepping to Wagner right now.

                So don't worry about our military.


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

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                  Posted: March 14, 2012, 3:07 pm - IP Logged

                  The reason why you have to pay taxes on the lottery is probably because you are not highly taxed on fuel and other like cigarettes and beer for example. Don't forget that you have to pay your military in Afghanistan, Irak and other. You pay every single soldier, gun and bullet. I don't live there, I got the news here on internet about huge debts because of Irak. Or, they just spend it there, if it isn't debt, it was just huge budget.

                  It's way more than the places you listed.

                  Americans spend and have spent billions making sure the europeans (and other ingrates across the globe) play nice with each other. Plus the salaries of those soldiers provide a nice boost to the local economies. Bad investment, IMO.

                  That's billions that were freed up for those same gov'ts to put into their own schools, social programs, and infrastructure, rather than have to use on their own defense.

                  In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
                  Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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                    Posted: March 14, 2012, 3:09 pm - IP Logged

                    Hi,

                    Why does the US have to tax all lottery winners. In other countries like Canada and the UK, anyone who wins a jackpot prize or any prize gets to keep their entire winnings and not have to pay taxes on their winnings. I am someone who has never made much money in their job and  feel we are taxed enough. When I hear someone in Canada who wins 1 Million dollars it's great to know they actually get the entire amount and do not have to deal with most of that amount being eaten up by taxes. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled to win anything but the idea of being taxed on even a 1,000 win is depressing. In all actuality it sounds like a falsehood saying someone won a million dollars when it isn't a million after paying out taxes. I guess I'm just wishing we could be like Canada and other countries who let people keep their entire winnings. Just wondered what other people think.


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                      Posted: March 14, 2012, 5:54 pm - IP Logged

                      The reason why you have to pay taxes on the lottery is probably because you are not highly taxed on fuel and other like cigarettes and beer for example. Don't forget that you have to pay your military in Afghanistan, Irak and other. You pay every single soldier, gun and bullet. I don't live there, I got the news here on internet about huge debts because of Irak. Or, they just spend it there, if it isn't debt, it was just huge budget.

                      Going to try and change my ways and not respond to this because the poster does not fully understand America.  And that's okay.

                      We are taxed because "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch."  I'll be happy to pay my taxes when I win.  Maybe I'll go to Belgium and get some sweet dark chocolate and some Belgian ale.  You buy the first round.

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                        Posted: March 14, 2012, 6:17 pm - IP Logged

                        Frim what savagegoose has posted I still thihnk Australia has the best idea of all. The tickets are $1.03 AUS, the $.03 prepays the tax, and the playslip even has a NFP option- Not For Publication, i.e., remaining anonymous is an option. (The gov't knows you won, yeah, but your neighbors don't.)

                        As far as I know, the U.S. is the only country that taxes gambling winnings.

                        As for Europe and taxes - I lived in Germany for three years and the average German paid 51% "Stoia", taxes. The German government does things like this, 51% of your check goes towards taxes, of that 51% a certain percent will go to restore national landmarks, things like castles, etc....You can name your favorite landmark - Oh whoopee - or if not the money goes into a general fund for landmarks, but you pay it.

                        And, of course, (I don't know how I know this) - but the cathouses, such as the Crazy Sexy by the Frankfurt bahnhof (train station) were government run. Yup, the infamous p***y tax!

                        Scared

                        Also, the German weren't shy about things like this.....a menu in a bar would have two prices, Deutsch (German) and Ausslander (foreigner, non-German).

                        Ein Bier (One beer)

                        Deutsch 1 DM (Deutschmark, prior to the euro)

                        Ausslander   2 DM

                        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                        Lep

                        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          Posted: March 14, 2012, 7:33 pm - IP Logged

                          We have to be taxed on our lottery winnings because our country is broke.  We have to pay for the lottery winners who win millions and still indignitely insist they are entitled to their foodstamps.  Basically, it boils down to we are stupid, lazy and entirely willing to give up our power no questions asked.  We need a hero.  Please vote responsibly.

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                            Posted: March 14, 2012, 7:41 pm - IP Logged

                            Maybe in an alternate universe, where things make sense.

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                              Frim what savagegoose has posted I still thihnk Australia has the best idea of all. The tickets are $1.03 AUS, the $.03 prepays the tax, and the playslip even has a NFP option- Not For Publication, i.e., remaining anonymous is an option. (The gov't knows you won, yeah, but your neighbors don't.)

                              As far as I know, the U.S. is the only country that taxes gambling winnings.

                              As for Europe and taxes - I lived in Germany for three years and the average German paid 51% "Stoia", taxes. The German government does things like this, 51% of your check goes towards taxes, of that 51% a certain percent will go to restore national landmarks, things like castles, etc....You can name your favorite landmark - Oh whoopee - or if not the money goes into a general fund for landmarks, but you pay it.

                              And, of course, (I don't know how I know this) - but the cathouses, such as the Crazy Sexy by the Frankfurt bahnhof (train station) were government run. Yup, the infamous p***y tax!

                              Scared

                              Also, the German weren't shy about things like this.....a menu in a bar would have two prices, Deutsch (German) and Ausslander (foreigner, non-German).

                              Ein Bier (One beer)

                              Deutsch 1 DM (Deutschmark, prior to the euro)

                              Ausslander   2 DM

                              I've never found a decent explanation for dual-pricing systems. Dead

                              Do like the Australian upfront 3 pennies tax, and keep the winner's business out of the papers, though. Hurray!

                              In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
                              Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.