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Lottery analysis software?

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Posted: April 19, 2012, 1:57 pm - IP Logged

Does anyone know of a program that studies the algorythms used on previous drawings to help select the next draw of numbers?

I heard of one somewhere but cannot find it now.

Thanks!

    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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    Posted: April 19, 2012, 7:12 pm - IP Logged

    If you know the algorithm then you can test it by using it.  It's coming up with one that's the hard part.

    * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
    * your best chance to win a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
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      Posted: April 19, 2012, 8:41 pm - IP Logged

      Thanks for the reply.  No, I don't have one to try.

      I saw some softare a while ago that supposedly analyzed the previous drawings and the algorithm used but can't find it now.

      Anyone know of such a system?

      Thanks

        aquariuslottery's avatar - AquariusLotteryLogo
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        Posted: April 20, 2012, 12:01 am - IP Logged

        What is a lottery you want to analyse?

        Pick 3, Pick 4, Mega, anything else?

        Aquarius

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          Posted: April 20, 2012, 12:12 am - IP Logged

          Thanks for the reply.  No, I don't have one to try.

          I saw some softare a while ago that supposedly analyzed the previous drawings and the algorithm used but can't find it now.

          Anyone know of such a system?

          Thanks

          Analyzing the Previous Drawing no Problem .. Any good software from Lotto Pro to Gail Howards " Smart Luck " can due that for You ..But , a software that can find the right algorithm ?? Never heard or seen such a Software !! Good Luck in your Search ..

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            Posted: April 20, 2012, 12:43 am - IP Logged

            Analyze enough previous drawings and put all those results together and you've got an algorithm.  Then if it produce a winning combination in a group of combinations small enough that you can afford to play them all then you've got something.

            * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
            * your best chance to win a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
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              Posted: April 20, 2012, 3:54 am - IP Logged


              Defunct E.O.L. (Entertainment On Line) Lottery Tracker and Wheeler used Cumastat to review about 8 prediction methods to determine the weight of each toward the next draw.  Not only didn't it work very well, if you deleted the last draw and tested the strongest recommended methods they failed to predict the winning numbers within a sizeable reduced field.

              There was another program, also defunct that tested the last draw against thousands of simple predictions methods like one up from the previous draw, the top ten winning systems for the previous draw generally failed to provide winning numbers unless you played so many it was pointless.   In back testing the program could always find a system that would have won, problem was that system never won in the next draw as far as my testing could tell.   

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                Posted: April 20, 2012, 8:26 am - IP Logged

                Thanks to all who replied.  Yes, I thought there was a specific system to target the agorithms but I'll keep on using the methods on the LP to try and get some wins.

                Aquarius, this is for pick 5 basically as I thought it might be easier but so far no luck.

                Will keep on trying.

                If anyone has some ideas I would be open to hearing them as I'm not having any luck with my GH system or Expert Lotto.

                Thanks

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                  Hello, meskhov, the problem is the numbers do not have a memory of past results, as has been proved here in the forum, you may want to study patterns of the past and are not numbers, then the number is or is not in default (groups numbers) to study the separate digits appear to be more profitable, and divide into 4 parts lotto to see unity, pairs and trios of each four shares, the only trend that can see past results, and their frequency in 80 % of the draws in the central range of the bell curve (the curve of probobabildades) then a lottery 49/6 4 is trying to hit the other two random numbers, we will never 100% predict a lottery, we can only get close, you know! !

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                    Posted: April 20, 2012, 11:13 am - IP Logged

                    Hello, meskhov, the problem is the numbers do not have a memory of past results, as has been proved here in the forum, you may want to study patterns of the past and are not numbers, then the number is or is not in default (groups numbers) to study the separate digits appear to be more profitable, and divide into 4 parts lotto to see unity, pairs and trios of each four shares, the only trend that can see past results, and their frequency in 80 % of the draws in the central range of the bell curve (the curve of probobabildades) then a lottery 49/6 4 is trying to hit the other two random numbers, we will never 100% predict a lottery, we can only get close, you know! !

                     the problem is the numbers do not have a memory of past results

                    I don't see that as a problem as long as players have one or track past results.

                    * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
                    * your best chance to win a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
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                      Posted: April 20, 2012, 11:41 am - IP Logged

                      hello, meskhov, past performance has no impact on anything for the future, because of the randomness of the game, you can confidently predict only a part of the result The repetition of a key event is the probability, but the total control is impossible Due to the large number of conbinaçoes, mathematics will always be 60% and 40% random   Varying this percentage,

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                        Defunct E.O.L. (Entertainment On Line) Lottery Tracker and Wheeler used Cumastat to review about 8 prediction methods to determine the weight of each toward the next draw.  Not only didn't it work very well, if you deleted the last draw and tested the strongest recommended methods they failed to predict the winning numbers within a sizeable reduced field.

                        There was another program, also defunct that tested the last draw against thousands of simple predictions methods like one up from the previous draw, the top ten winning systems for the previous draw generally failed to provide winning numbers unless you played so many it was pointless.   In back testing the program could always find a system that would have won, problem was that system never won in the next draw as far as my testing could tell.   

                        BobP

                        Not only didn't it work very well, if you deleted the last draw and tested the strongest recommended methods they failed to predict the winning numbers within a sizeable reduced field.

                        LOL garbage-ware.

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                          Defunct E.O.L. (Entertainment On Line) Lottery Tracker and Wheeler used Cumastat to review about 8 prediction methods to determine the weight of each toward the next draw.  Not only didn't it work very well, if you deleted the last draw and tested the strongest recommended methods they failed to predict the winning numbers within a sizeable reduced field.

                          There was another program, also defunct that tested the last draw against thousands of simple predictions methods like one up from the previous draw, the top ten winning systems for the previous draw generally failed to provide winning numbers unless you played so many it was pointless.   In back testing the program could always find a system that would have won, problem was that system never won in the next draw as far as my testing could tell.   

                          BobP

                          they failed to predict the winning numbers within a sizeable reduced field.

                          That seems to be a fault in most prediction software even when they point a player in the right direction. 

                          For example in the last MM drawing the lowest number in the winning combination was #1 and it was in the first position of the sorted combination.  Most prediction software would probably predict the lowest and first number in tonight's sorted winning combination will be higher than #1 since of the 55 times that #1 was in the previous 711 winning combinations after the last matrix change was only followed by itself five times and the rest of the times was followed by numbers  in the range of 2-29 with #2 being the most popular.  The range of 2-29 is not a manageable field size for players playing only a few lines and while the most popular numbers often repeat, they do so less than 50% of the time.  As you can see this type of analysis isn't very helpful to the average player.

                          * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
                          * your best chance to win a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
                              Wink 

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                            Posted: April 21, 2012, 10:13 am - IP Logged

                            they failed to predict the winning numbers within a sizeable reduced field.

                            That seems to be a fault in most prediction software even when they point a player in the right direction. 

                            For example in the last MM drawing the lowest number in the winning combination was #1 and it was in the first position of the sorted combination.  Most prediction software would probably predict the lowest and first number in tonight's sorted winning combination will be higher than #1 since of the 55 times that #1 was in the previous 711 winning combinations after the last matrix change was only followed by itself five times and the rest of the times was followed by numbers  in the range of 2-29 with #2 being the most popular.  The range of 2-29 is not a manageable field size for players playing only a few lines and while the most popular numbers often repeat, they do so less than 50% of the time.  As you can see this type of analysis isn't very helpful to the average player.

                            As predicted, the first and lowest number was between 2 and 29, but the field was so wide knowing that didn't help much.

                            * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
                            * your best chance to win a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
                                Wink 

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                              Hi meskhov, you probably refer to my program GAT Engine discussed here

                              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/240293

                              However it doesn't use algorithms with the traditional means everyone here will jump in and say they don't work. Traditional algorithms indeed do not work because they attempt to tackle the prediction problem with elementary approaches such as hot/cold/due, delay patterns, statistics, AI or whatever. Also of course numbers do not have memory and prediction does not work under the concept of numbers having memory and this is the reason the above methods do not work and the belief it is impossible to make a prediction; they rely on numbers having memory for these approaches to work! I have already users who have won good money using this system, one particularly over the last 10 draws, he has won 4 4-hits and 2 5-hits in his 6/49 game (he plays a wheel of 12 numbers) and he is of course very excited with that performance. As you can see, there is a big distribution of opinions regarding if lotto draws can be predicted or not. Myself I say they can be predicted up to an extend and the reason I developed GAT Engine, my proof is the regular wins observed by my users. If you ask these users, their opinion is it can be predicted only if you have the right mechanism to do so. Others who try to approach the subject via hot/cold/due, statistics, AI etc will say it can't be predicted because they attempt to analyse properties that aren't in the lotto draws in first place.

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