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# Can a pattern really help me win the jackpot

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To make sense of any perceived patterns, google ' patterns in randomness',this may help to evolve algorithm in process

why would the flag formation pattern not be in wikipedia?

if you google patterns in randomness...what you will get is the golden mean mostly.  This is the only true pattern in the universe which can be seen in the flag formation.

@RJoh...i know you said you did not read the LMG...but can you spot the flag formation?

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why would the flag formation pattern not be in wikipedia?

if you google patterns in randomness...what you will get is the golden mean mostly.  This is the only true pattern in the universe which can be seen in the flag formation.

@RJoh...i know you said you did not read the LMG...but can you spot the flag formation?

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As Todd once responded in a post you made, he once tried to start a glossary of lottery terms and found there are very few standard lottery terms, every body who writes a book or sometimes just start a thread have their own words to describe the same things.

For example I use the word gap to describe the difference between numbers in a sorted lottery combination while others use the word skip which I use to describe the number of drawings a number goes without a hit.

Even gap is confusing when used the same way by different players.  For example  the gap between 1 and 3 in the combination 01 03 09 11 15 for me is 2 because its easier to calculate in a program while others say it's 1 because only one numbers can exist between them.

Note: I said before I didn't know what a flag formation was and wasn't interested in knowing since I know everything I think I need to know.  Knowing more would just confuse me!

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why would the flag formation pattern not be in wikipedia?

if you google patterns in randomness...what you will get is the golden mean mostly.  This is the only true pattern in the universe which can be seen in the flag formation.

@RJoh...i know you said you did not read the LMG...but can you spot the flag formation?

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The golden mean is not the only statistical property parameter.You start with ,'why  these patterns'?, the shape,the rate of occurrence in each cycle(draws),are patterns in clusters or spaced out,mean time and waiting time(frequency when a pattern appears and  how long you hold that

pattern). These the basic parameters needed  for eventual algorithm before you get to complex probability equations!

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S-Man

Here is something you may want to consider.  Let's say that I gave you a power ball ticket and told you with

100% certainty that 5 of the winning numbers were correct.  The problem is that I won't tell you which number

is wrong.  For those who are thinking how could I know with 100% certaintly that 5 were correct, Lets say that

for this example the drawing has already happened but you have not seen the drawing and have no clue what

the winning set is.  Now my question,  How many lines would you have to purchase to ensure a 5of5+PB win.

Most people don't consider how easy it is to find data after the fact so to say that supports some method which

really has no foundation in reality.

I will post the answer later.

RL

Hi All

answer = 270 + 34 minus the ticket you already have or 303.

PB 5-59

There are 270 sets that match 4 of 5 white balls in every drawing.  If the incorrect number was one of the

five white balls then you would need to but the remaining 269 sets to cover every possible 5of5.   If one

of the original 5 numbers was the incorrect number then the Power ball must be correct.  If the power ball

was the incorrect number then you would need to buy 34 more tickets to cover every power ball to use with

the original set.   So, even if you knew that 5 of 6 numbers were correct trying to cover the possibilities is not

that easy.

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Hi All

answer = 270 + 34 minus the ticket you already have or 303.

PB 5-59

There are 270 sets that match 4 of 5 white balls in every drawing.  If the incorrect number was one of the

five white balls then you would need to but the remaining 269 sets to cover every possible 5of5.   If one

of the original 5 numbers was the incorrect number then the Power ball must be correct.  If the power ball

was the incorrect number then you would need to buy 34 more tickets to cover every power ball to use with

the original set.   So, even if you knew that 5 of 6 numbers were correct trying to cover the possibilities is not

that easy.

yes RL...very good calculations...but what is the probability of a specific skip pattern occuring, say containing 4 hits in succession where the max skip is 6 games or the average is 7 games per hit?  Lets talk a specific skip pattern like 4  5  5  4 how often in 100 games can this pattern be expected in mega millions?  What are the averages?

Only very rich or very confident people are willing to play 303 lines on their own...

I have not downloaded the program yet...but i am very curious...does the program track skip patterns?  Forgive me i have not read the whole thread yet...

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As Todd once responded in a post you made, he once tried to start a glossary of lottery terms and found there are very few standard lottery terms, every body who writes a book or sometimes just start a thread have their own words to describe the same things.

For example I use the word gap to describe the difference between numbers in a sorted lottery combination while others use the word skip which I use to describe the number of drawings a number goes without a hit.

Even gap is confusing when used the same way by different players.  For example  the gap between 1 and 3 in the combination 01 03 09 11 15 for me is 2 because its easier to calculate in a program while others say it's 1 because only one numbers can exist between them.

Note: I said before I didn't know what a flag formation was and wasn't interested in knowing since I know everything I think I need to know.  Knowing more would just confuse me!

just because a task is difficult does not mean it should be abandoned...

If Lottery Post is the worldwide leader...then maybe lottery post management should set the standard...without standardized measurements there can be very little improvement in lottery theory...

yes you say gap...i say space...i am willing to sacrifice space for gap...because it is understood.  Yes i use skip that way also...some people say games out...but skip is more efficient than games out.

also keep in mind many advanced lottery players are worldwide... and their nomenclature is usually incorrect from an english point of view...that is not a lottery standard problem...it is a linguistic communication problem.  For example 50% of the time i cant tell what the hell DR San is trying to say...his math is correct his theory is sound...but i still cant grasp it 100%...

The goal should be understanding and effieciency...i am not here to write a book or thesis or inflate my ego...i would like to convey ideas succintly...and a glossary/dictionary/thesaurus would be very helpful in this endeavor...

Note: I said before I didn't know what a flag formation was and wasn't interested in knowing since I know everything I think I need to know.  Knowing more would just confuse me!

I cant be sure if this statement confers arrogance...or laziness or contempt on your part.

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The golden mean is not the only statistical property parameter.You start with ,'why  these patterns'?, the shape,the rate of occurrence in each cycle(draws),are patterns in clusters or spaced out,mean time and waiting time(frequency when a pattern appears and  how long you hold that

pattern). These the basic parameters needed  for eventual algorithm before you get to complex probability equations!

yes i like your ideas and analysis...

what other statistical property parameters are there?

obviously you have more skills in writing the algorithm...i just have more skill (my opinion) in seeing the evolving patterns...

complex probability equations?  are we trying to split the atom here?  i bet the equations are similar. Is not the lottery ball movement akin to brownian motion?  If so than the complex probability equations are already written somewhere...they just have not been applied to lottery.

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Yes, The many patterns in Lottery Jackpot games can help you Win . It's just a matter of finding  the right Pattern to use !!! LottoB is right its seeing the evolving patterns for  analysis ....

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yes RL...very good calculations...but what is the probability of a specific skip pattern occuring, say containing 4 hits in succession where the max skip is 6 games or the average is 7 games per hit?  Lets talk a specific skip pattern like 4  5  5  4 how often in 100 games can this pattern be expected in mega millions?  What are the averages?

Only very rich or very confident people are willing to play 303 lines on their own...

I have not downloaded the program yet...but i am very curious...does the program track skip patterns?  Forgive me i have not read the whole thread yet...

LB

there is an option that can take the results from the past however many draws and then search the entire

history and return what hit next  This works very well for giving you a snapshot of what can be expected in

the next draw.  It's kind of a series prediction tool but often leaves you with more than one choice.

RL

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Hello Scientistman,

To answer your thread's title - yes, I do think past draw patterns can help you win.  But with a caveat. I don't think one should always align the numbers according to how 99% of lottery sources post Jackpot results, which is in ascending order, but rather align the numbers in the order that they were drawn.  In my relatively short time with lotterygistics(the study of the lottery), I've never seen anyone do it this way, If one is trying to look for a pattern with the past draws, then let's begin within the past draw itself with the very first pattern that is seen, which is of course, the order the order they are drawn, begging you to take notice, because its not arbitrary. I take notice. I hope you will too, and you may find that it  better contextualizes the methods and systems one uses, while promoting more accuracy.

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Maybe, if you have the cash to play, and if you win more then you lose.

*keep crunching*

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Maybe, if you have the cash to play, and if you win more then you lose.

There are players out there with plenty of cash to spend that are looking for such a plan/strategy.

Remember the news story about the Michigan couple traveling to Massachusetts to buy \$300K worth of tickets when their lottery rolled-down and the jackpot could be split among the second prize winners?

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Yes, The many patterns in Lottery Jackpot games can help you Win . It's just a matter of finding  the right Pattern to use !!! LottoB is right its seeing the evolving patterns for  analysis ....

The problem is the patterns aren't as obvious before the drawings as they are after the drawings.

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As Drawn Analysis is the only way to go for pattern analysis!  For MM & PB, a set of 5 numbers will never make it to infinity (if you know what I mean).

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The problem is the patterns aren't as obvious before the drawings as they are after the drawings.

 Patterns For Saturday's Powerball for 5/26 that I've identified.  Going out on a limb with some patterns I've identified.1.  Will repeat numbers hit?  It's been nine drawings since a repeat number hit.      If you play repeats, your choices for tonight are:  04 - 07 - 26 - 53 - 59      My guess is one, possibly two numbers may repeat.  My guesses in red. 2.  +1 -1 Analysis from the numbers in the current draw (04 - 07 - 26 - 53 - 59).      If you play the +1 -1 analysis, your choices for tonight are:  03 - 06 - 25 - 52 - 58 - 05 - 08 - 27 - 54 - 01 (since there is no 60)      My guess is one number may hit out of this set.  My guess in red.3a.  How about a four number set out 11 drawings.  These would include the numbers:  14 - 15 - 16 - 19 3b.  How about a four number set out 07 drawings.  These would include the numbers:  31 - 39 - 40 - 57        My guess is one number may hit out of this set of eight numbers.  My guesses in red. My guess is I will capture two, possibly three numbers out of 23 numbers.  Not too good I might add! Narrowing it down, I would only play 05 - 07 - 16 - 26 - 57 for the five wb's.  I suspect I'll capture one number.What do you think?  Any Pre-draw comments or suggestions?Best Of Luck!

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