You last visited May 24, 2013, 10:52 pm All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | RL's Digit Master Pro Big Game software download.Salt Lake City, UT United States Member #70366 January 18, 2009 592 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 4:01 pm - IP Logged | |
Jmmy: I only see where digit 1 has hit maybe 7 times this year according to the digit data lines in the database for the last 62 draws and most times it was a "1" that hit the most. Can you enlighten me please on this? Thanks M Sorry I'm not following your question? Are you asking about the alternate digit representation? I hope my posting of this alternate view is not confusing to people. If it is then I will refrain from this action. My intent is not to confuse an already difficult task. In my alternate string representation the most likely value for the first number is 11 or 12 which implies digit 1 hit 2 or more times, or just 1 time. No big revelation their so you have to move on to the next number and do further analysis. My suggestion for people is if you take on a filter then try and understand everything about it. For example using DO as a filter the numbers are 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 31, 33, 35, 37, 39, 51, 53, 55. Ask yourself what is the relationship of this filter with other filters and write them down. Systematically examine each other filter and see how its effected with a DB value of 0, 1, 2 ... For example if DO hits then Digit 1 or Digit 3 is going to hit also unless its 55. In addition TB in going to be effected. These are the relationships that will make you an expert on a particular filter. I would suggest using Excell or engineering graph paper and map out the analysis. If everybody specializes on at least 1 filter I would think the team is making great progress in the knowledge game but not necessarily in the overrall game. But you have to start some where. As an example I work at company writing software that is a client server model. I do the client portion and know everything about the client. Another team does the server portion and knows everything about the server side. Each team unit tests the hell out of each piece and as indivdual components they work flawlessly. All this doesn't mean when you combine the client and server together that their are not going to be problems as a system test. There is and probably will be more time needed to integrate the components together as a system. But if the two teams communicated as they went along this should not be a daunting task because after all their both experts on the individual components. I think we will have to go thru the same process of becoming experts on individual filters and then have the same growing pains of integrating them together because some filter values are going to conflict with other filter values and a decision will have to be made. I know everyone is excited but like I tell my managers I would rather take the time to design something right the first time than rush to complete something that everyone knows is going to cost more in the long run to support. Again those are my two cents, I'm not intending to discourage anyone, in fact I'm trying to encourage everyone to learn. This single thread has become rather unwieldly. Maybe Winsum should pick a filter for the team to analyze, start a new thread and have everyone chime in on the relationships. At the end we should completely understand everything there is to know about that filter. That thread then would act as a template for how to figure out the relationships for the other filters. At that time I think each individual of the team can go do the analysis for their filter and report their results in a separate thread to present their research/analysis and have group discussion. This would be similar in my profession of having a code review of the software just written. I know this is a very systematic process and might be boring to some people but I know from experience this works for my profession. Most of the software algorithms used in my profession were created and designed years ago. The creativity of software is taking an existing algorithm and making a small incremental improvement to it to do something else that no else envisioned doing. This process is repeated over and over in my jog. Unfortunately you cannot make small incremental improvements if you don't completely understand the base algorithm and are treating parts of it as a black box. Black box means you cannot see the inner details of how something works. From my experience this is always a bad thing. Wow I just read thru what I wrote and that was boring so maybe you want to put me on IGNORE my feelings would not be hurt. Anyway off to Park City for some enjoyment. Jimmy | | |
United States Member #97724 September 21, 2010 358 Posts Offline
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jimjwright,
"I think we will have to go thru the same process of becoming experts on individual filters and then have the same growing pains of integrating them together because some filter values are going to conflict with other filter values and a decision will have to be made."
Jim, RL will be making those decisions. :)
Also I think RL will be communicating with team members via emails, and a separate PRIVATE forum created and run by Winsome. In that way we do not expose all our decisions and strategies publicly by creating threads here at LP . This is how RL operated in the past, and I think once we get going he will operate in that same way again.
And now that money is involved, I am sure he will want to keep it PRIVATE.
There is a reason for this, as once the team gets going we do not want interference with non-team members. | | |
ORLANDO, FLORIDA United States Member #5011 June 3, 2004 3503 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 5:34 pm - IP Logged | |
jimjwright,
"I think we will have to go thru the same process of becoming experts on individual filters and then have the same growing pains of integrating them together because some filter values are going to conflict with other filter values and a decision will have to be made."
Jim, RL will be making those decisions. :)
Also I think RL will be communicating with team members via emails, and a separate PRIVATE forum created and run by Winsome. In that way we do not expose all our decisions and strategies publicly by creating threads here at LP . This is how RL operated in the past, and I think once we get going he will operate in that same way again.
And now that money is involved, I am sure he will want to keep it PRIVATE.
There is a reason for this, as once the team gets going we do not want interference with non-team members. BH, Am I interpting your response correctly. Are you implying JJ's responses are not welcome? If I am correct, you are out of line. JJ's input and I am positive that RL will say the same, are always welcome. He has valuable input to share. Please do not post a response in bold, that's rude. | | |
MA United States Member #89122 March 30, 2010 233 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 6:02 pm - IP Logged | |
Jimmy: I now see what you are mentioning about the digits and the alternate viewings, just got a little mixed up with all the information overload. Now that I understand it clears it up for me. Thank you for your detailed resposne. Much appreciated as always! Take Care. M | | |
Krakow Poland Member #86326 February 2, 2010 445 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 6:22 pm - IP Logged | |
jimmy, I very much like what you said. Your approach is the right one. Adam | | |
Los Angeles United States Member #75921 June 2, 2009 308 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 6:36 pm - IP Logged | |
jimmy, I very much like what you said. Your approach is the right one. Adam Jimmy, Same with me the fact of concentrating on 1 or 2 filters each members and knowing them up side down 100% knowing which other filters could interfere, would be beneficient, then this knowledge from each member would be transfer to the other members.I think we all would save time, then after few draws we could swap filter easier and won't have to dissect the new filter we would be assign to, because it would have been done from the previous member. That is my opinion. Frenchie. | | |
Los Angeles United States Member #75921 June 2, 2009 308 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 6:45 pm - IP Logged | |
Guys, I have a suggestion, please share what you think. About the conference meeting, it would be nice to do it on " Skype " this way we would be able to see and know eachother better ? The total people that could be at ones on " Skype video conference " is 10 people. I think it would be a good way, and it would put a face on the name. ? Frenchie. | | |
Los Angeles United States Member #75921 June 2, 2009 308 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 7:28 pm - IP Logged | |
I have been a reader not a writer. I download the program a few months back i just love the program. It is the best i have ever seen in 20years of playing the lottery. I would like to join in on your Lottery Pool Please. oldmanjohnson, I'm checking on the members list and the only post you did was on page 42nd and we are at 69 now, it's a team effort, and I think you should share some of your idea. Frenchie. | | |
Los Angeles United States Member #75921 June 2, 2009 308 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 8:16 pm - IP Logged | |
Maryland, I would say the same for you too, the reason is that the more we are in sharing input the better it will be for the pool. Frenchie. | | |
United States Member #66227 October 4, 2008 23 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 8:20 pm - IP Logged | |
Sorry I'm not following your question? Are you asking about the alternate digit representation? I hope my posting of this alternate view is not confusing to people. If it is then I will refrain from this action. My intent is not to confuse an already difficult task. In my alternate string representation the most likely value for the first number is 11 or 12 which implies digit 1 hit 2 or more times, or just 1 time. No big revelation their so you have to move on to the next number and do further analysis. My suggestion for people is if you take on a filter then try and understand everything about it. For example using DO as a filter the numbers are 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 31, 33, 35, 37, 39, 51, 53, 55. Ask yourself what is the relationship of this filter with other filters and write them down. Systematically examine each other filter and see how its effected with a DB value of 0, 1, 2 ... For example if DO hits then Digit 1 or Digit 3 is going to hit also unless its 55. In addition TB in going to be effected. These are the relationships that will make you an expert on a particular filter. I would suggest using Excell or engineering graph paper and map out the analysis. If everybody specializes on at least 1 filter I would think the team is making great progress in the knowledge game but not necessarily in the overrall game. But you have to start some where. As an example I work at company writing software that is a client server model. I do the client portion and know everything about the client. Another team does the server portion and knows everything about the server side. Each team unit tests the hell out of each piece and as indivdual components they work flawlessly. All this doesn't mean when you combine the client and server together that their are not going to be problems as a system test. There is and probably will be more time needed to integrate the components together as a system. But if the two teams communicated as they went along this should not be a daunting task because after all their both experts on the individual components. I think we will have to go thru the same process of becoming experts on individual filters and then have the same growing pains of integrating them together because some filter values are going to conflict with other filter values and a decision will have to be made. I know everyone is excited but like I tell my managers I would rather take the time to design something right the first time than rush to complete something that everyone knows is going to cost more in the long run to support. Again those are my two cents, I'm not intending to discourage anyone, in fact I'm trying to encourage everyone to learn. This single thread has become rather unwieldly. Maybe Winsum should pick a filter for the team to analyze, start a new thread and have everyone chime in on the relationships. At the end we should completely understand everything there is to know about that filter. That thread then would act as a template for how to figure out the relationships for the other filters. At that time I think each individual of the team can go do the analysis for their filter and report their results in a separate thread to present their research/analysis and have group discussion. This would be similar in my profession of having a code review of the software just written. I know this is a very systematic process and might be boring to some people but I know from experience this works for my profession. Most of the software algorithms used in my profession were created and designed years ago. The creativity of software is taking an existing algorithm and making a small incremental improvement to it to do something else that no else envisioned doing. This process is repeated over and over in my jog. Unfortunately you cannot make small incremental improvements if you don't completely understand the base algorithm and are treating parts of it as a black box. Black box means you cannot see the inner details of how something works. From my experience this is always a bad thing. Wow I just read thru what I wrote and that was boring so maybe you want to put me on IGNORE my feelings would not be hurt. Anyway off to Park City for some enjoyment. Jimmy I completely agree with your analysis! I'm trying to do that as learn on a slower scale. | | |
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United States Member #128714 May 31, 2012 16 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 11:21 pm - IP Logged | |
DO/DE Filters I'm going over the filters to gain a better understanding. I'm curious why DE uses the digits less than 10 (2, 4, 6, 8) and DO excludes those less than 10 (1, 3, 5, 7, 9) for the final tally on each drawing? The pdf for the filters excludes 55 for DO, it looks like it's being used for each draws DO filter calculation. The pdf might need a small correction. Thanks, PackFan396 | | |
United States Member #97724 September 21, 2010 358 Posts Offline
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BH, Am I interpting your response correctly. Are you implying JJ's responses are not welcome? If I am correct, you are out of line. JJ's input and I am positive that RL will say the same, are always welcome. He has valuable input to share. Please do not post a response in bold, that's rude. Are a friend of lakerben?
Naw you did not interpret my response correctly, I was merely explaining how things worked in the past.
Readers can judge both your vitrol towards me, and the post.
I leave it at that. | | |
New Jersey United States Member #2256 September 1, 2003 3669 Posts Online | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 11:37 pm - IP Logged | |
DO/DE Filters I'm going over the filters to gain a better understanding. I'm curious why DE uses the digits less than 10 (2, 4, 6, 8) and DO excludes those less than 10 (1, 3, 5, 7, 9) for the final tally on each drawing? The pdf for the filters excludes 55 for DO, it looks like it's being used for each draws DO filter calculation. The pdf might need a small correction. Thanks, PackFan396 D/O - Double Odd = both the left digit and right digit must be ODD 1,3,5,7,9 01,03,05,07,09 has the left digit 0 (zero) which would be an even digit. That is why they are not Double Odd. Yes. The 55 was not included but should be added to the PDF D/E - Double Even = both left digit and right digit must be EVEN 0,2,4,6,8 | | |
New Jersey United States Member #2256 September 1, 2003 3669 Posts Online | | Posted: August 5, 2012, 12:26 am - IP Logged | |
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Salt Lake City, UT United States Member #70366 January 18, 2009 592 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 5, 2012, 1:24 am - IP Logged | |
jimjwright,
"I think we will have to go thru the same process of becoming experts on individual filters and then have the same growing pains of integrating them together because some filter values are going to conflict with other filter values and a decision will have to be made."
Jim, RL will be making those decisions. :)
Also I think RL will be communicating with team members via emails, and a separate PRIVATE forum created and run by Winsome. In that way we do not expose all our decisions and strategies publicly by creating threads here at LP . This is how RL operated in the past, and I think once we get going he will operate in that same way again.
And now that money is involved, I am sure he will want to keep it PRIVATE.
There is a reason for this, as once the team gets going we do not want interference with non-team members. Your right I should not being butting my nose it where it doesn't belong. Good luck to the rest of you in your journey to become digit masters !!! Jimmy | | |
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