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# pick 3 reduction using mathematical methods and the scientific calculator

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 Posted: June 30, 2012, 9:48 pm - IP Logged
012 013 014 015 016 017 018 019 023 024 025 026 027 028 029 034 035 036 037 038 039 045 046 047 048 049 056 057 058 059 067 068 069 078 079 089 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 134 135 136 137 138 139 145 146 147 148 149 156 157 158 159 167 168 169 178 179 189 234 235 236 237 238 239 245 246 247 248 249 256 257 258 259 267 268 269 278 279 289 345 346 347 348 349 356 357 358 359 367 368 369 378 379 389 456 457 458 459 467 468 469 478 479 489 567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789

thanks retxx i will
im sorry i thought  everybody knew about these
this is the basics of pick 3 lottery - this group of numbers is on this site under charts
this is the complete boxed set of  120 single play combos  (no doubles or triples)
this is the 120 that i talked about we will be deleting from and chipping away at
maybe thats where the confusion is
so on my last example
last draw was 328
using one of my equations y= logx = log328 =2.518738.........................
so just use the first 3 numbers 251  so now i cross it out above ( 125 is  the box of 251 )
and go thru the other equations the same way

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 Posted: June 30, 2012, 10:12 pm - IP Logged

everyone please use my other topic also  i posted under lottery systems on this site

there you reduce these combos by 30 or 40 more and the methods are much simpler

for now if you want just use the ten equations i initially posted on this topic post on page 1

i tested these and they work well

so between the two systems you can cut these combos down 40 %

but please read my other post also

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thanks for the pm tom

but i dont how much clearer i can make this for everyone

i dont post numbers because i dont have the time and do not have a program for this either

i dont post numbers also because i gave you the system(s) directly and 2 fully worked out examples

which is way better

alot of people on here just post but they dont give away their syatem

they say its a family secret ,they are   still working on it  etc..................................

they should just be upfront and tell they dont want to disclose it period

i much rather have the system

i am not selfish and will help anyone if i get treated with respect and always respond in a professional courteous way

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thanks for the pm tom

but i dont how much clearer i can make this for everyone

i dont post numbers because i dont have the time and do not have a program for this either

i dont post numbers also because i gave you the system(s) directly and 2 fully worked out examples

which is way better

alot of people on here just post but they dont give away their syatem

they say its a family secret ,they are   still working on it  etc..................................

they should just be upfront and tell they dont want to disclose it period

i much rather have the system

i am not selfish and will help anyone if i get treated with respect and always respond in a professional courteous way

I have had system wher I make at least 3 changes a day.  That is why I say I'm still working on it.  There is nothing abouyt disclosure etc.

The 27 system. Single digit,pairs,double down,noahs pairs, flow, gap,series system, 7dAY ,VERTICAL PAIRS.Multiply,mirror and wheel,Delta p3, Simple TTT,P3 combo.

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 Posted: July 21, 2012, 2:26 pm - IP Logged

oh no laker my comments werent meant anything against you at all

you do alot here and post alot

i admire and respect you and your hard work here as i said to you before

i dont know you keep your head on straight with all these systems and numbers

i notice some people like to tease on here thats all

and then they leave you flat or they taunt you even

we are all here to help each other

i share everything i know

ive been having some medical issues but i have alot more to share

so i took off a while

but i do hope we can work together  and will always value your opinion

and maybe we can all get the edge on pick 3

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I like your system so far.  It's actually a small part of the program I'm working on.  I think elimination is a key to finding the pick 3 pattern.  And essentially my orginially theory was:  "If a system is random, then there can be no pattern.  If there can be no pattern, establish a pattern.  That pattern can not be, so eliminate the result of that pattern."  Which basically is what you are doing.  You're finding what would constitute a pattern between a draw and its next draw.  I think using the previous days draw isn't enough but as my once very strict boss said the only time I ever went in late to work, (first I said -"That's the first time I've ever been late") he said "The first time is the start of a pattern."  :)  Good luck.  I do have some programming skills, if you have a mock up (or algorithm) of your process, I might be able to code something up in VB or Java.  I'm a pretty new member here though and don't know how to post it to the site - like the executable or whatever.  But I'd be happy to do some light coding in the near future (this week is finals weeks, so give me at least a week or two to work on it. :))  And just let me know how to post a program to the site, if its allowed etc.  Or I guess I'd just post the source code.  Let me know language preferences.  Haven't gotten to C yet though, so it has to be VB or Java for now.  Sorry any linux or mac guys... I'm a PC'er.  (Note: of course Java is platform independent)

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thank you for writing

i am very impressed with your knowledge and programming skills

i do hope we can work together and i will be in touch with you here and in private mail

its just makes sense to me because the majority of combos and times people play pick 3 the numbers are incorrect

i mean sometimes they come out but very rarely in the next draw

so just away from the numbers you usually play that are not winners most of the time

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 Posted: July 22, 2012, 3:40 pm - IP Logged

to post a new topic

for example in the mathemaitcs forum

on the page where you wrote me

near the upper right hand corner near of the page pull downs there ais a new topic button

just click on that and start a new topic and of course give it a name

make sure you are in the right forum though

please fell free to write any time

im sure you will be a valued addition to the "LP" family

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I like your system so far.  It's actually a small part of the program I'm working on.  I think elimination is a key to finding the pick 3 pattern.  And essentially my orginially theory was:  "If a system is random, then there can be no pattern.  If there can be no pattern, establish a pattern.  That pattern can not be, so eliminate the result of that pattern."  Which basically is what you are doing.  You're finding what would constitute a pattern between a draw and its next draw.  I think using the previous days draw isn't enough but as my once very strict boss said the only time I ever went in late to work, (first I said -"That's the first time I've ever been late") he said "The first time is the start of a pattern."  :)  Good luck.  I do have some programming skills, if you have a mock up (or algorithm) of your process, I might be able to code something up in VB or Java.  I'm a pretty new member here though and don't know how to post it to the site - like the executable or whatever.  But I'd be happy to do some light coding in the near future (this week is finals weeks, so give me at least a week or two to work on it. :))  And just let me know how to post a program to the site, if its allowed etc.  Or I guess I'd just post the source code.  Let me know language preferences.  Haven't gotten to C yet though, so it has to be VB or Java for now.  Sorry any linux or mac guys... I'm a PC'er.  (Note: of course Java is platform independent)

Hi Algorithm Guru,

I've been programming for years, first in VB but fairly quickly switched to C in different flavors - currently C#. Java is related to C, main syntax is very similar, you should find it easy to switch.  However, if you are thinking about mobile apps, stick to Java.

My personal experience with numeric lotteries indicates that there are definitely patterns in the chaotic world of totally random numbers. They do exist, they can be detected and utilised in predicting future numbers. Even simple statistical computations will show their existence.

Recently I did a short excercise for Pick 3 and posted the results on my LP blog.

I compared the performance of 2 groups of numbers - the hot ones (the most frequent) and the cold (the least frequent). The comparison was for 30 draws (the whole month of June) for Kansas Pick3 and the results were quite interesting - the hots scored 37.5% better than the colds, rather a significant difference. In monetary value the difference was \$480.

I strongly believe in the short term patterns (I call them short term trends) in any random lottery, and have seen too many proofs for that. For Pick 3 compute frequency charts for several months separately to see what I mean. These charts will never be the same and seldom even similar. And the simulation mentioned above tells clearly that this DOES have effects on predictions. See my blog post for more details.

Aquarius

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wow you guys are deep

i thought i was smart

thats great

we got to to lick this pick 3 once and for all

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wow you guys are deep

i thought i was smart

thats great

we got to to lick this pick 3 once and for all

LKMIKE,

Don't be so humble. We are all here to learn new things. I already picked up several interesting ideas from other people's posts, even if I did not acknowledged that. So far I find LP a pretty fertile ground for brain stimulation, at least the portion responsible for lotteries. Could not do it without you guys. Another proof that many heads are always better than one.

Aquarius

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So I started working on a program based upon your methods.  I'm programming it in VB as it is my most fluent language.  (and easier to build complex user interfaces.)  Essentially the interface is set up to allow the user to input the last drawn number then calculate numbers to eliminate based upon the mathematical functions you described in this and your previous post of another thread, then display the numbers TO play.  I'll be coding the functionality of it soon.  It is a little more complex than I intended it to be but as some of your methods are ones I already planned on incorporating into my original design I'm building seperate classes to handle the math functions for interoperability when I build my program later.  When I'm finished I'll let you know.  If anyone is interested in the executable let me know.  If you prefer only to see the source code that's fine too.  Although some of the source code I may leave out as I do plan on using the source code in other projects.  However the source code for the math functions will be pretty standard stuff and I have no problem sharing it.  My exact implementation though I'm going to call intellectual property.  Since posting directly in the forums may make me lose my rights to it (since Lottery Post claims ownership of all things posted in their forums) I'd prefer to send source code as a private message.  If you don't like attachments or are unsure of using an executable from an "unknown" source that is understandable.  I can assure everyone my code has nothing malicious about it and I'm designing it to not modify a users system in any way, not even creating a sequential access text file (for database style purposes) or anything else of that nature.  At any rate, just giving everyone a heads up that a program for this methodology is underway.  As to the posts regarding the "streak of singles" and the departure from it, I'm calling the program "Singles Streak" since it plays only singles.  In that regard the program will be best suited to times when it appears the lottery is on a singles streak.  Otherwise other methodologies will be better employed or at least in conjunction with these methods.  And AquariusLottery, I'm asking your permission to code based on the method's you prescribed.  I have or will make some modifications to your methodology as I deem necessary, but since it is your system (as first described) I'd prefer your okay to share it with others.  Please let me know if you have any problems with that.  Thanks everyone and good luck!

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So I started working on a program based upon your methods.  I'm programming it in VB as it is my most fluent language.  (and easier to build complex user interfaces.)  Essentially the interface is set up to allow the user to input the last drawn number then calculate numbers to eliminate based upon the mathematical functions you described in this and your previous post of another thread, then display the numbers TO play.  I'll be coding the functionality of it soon.  It is a little more complex than I intended it to be but as some of your methods are ones I already planned on incorporating into my original design I'm building seperate classes to handle the math functions for interoperability when I build my program later.  When I'm finished I'll let you know.  If anyone is interested in the executable let me know.  If you prefer only to see the source code that's fine too.  Although some of the source code I may leave out as I do plan on using the source code in other projects.  However the source code for the math functions will be pretty standard stuff and I have no problem sharing it.  My exact implementation though I'm going to call intellectual property.  Since posting directly in the forums may make me lose my rights to it (since Lottery Post claims ownership of all things posted in their forums) I'd prefer to send source code as a private message.  If you don't like attachments or are unsure of using an executable from an "unknown" source that is understandable.  I can assure everyone my code has nothing malicious about it and I'm designing it to not modify a users system in any way, not even creating a sequential access text file (for database style purposes) or anything else of that nature.  At any rate, just giving everyone a heads up that a program for this methodology is underway.  As to the posts regarding the "streak of singles" and the departure from it, I'm calling the program "Singles Streak" since it plays only singles.  In that regard the program will be best suited to times when it appears the lottery is on a singles streak.  Otherwise other methodologies will be better employed or at least in conjunction with these methods.  And AquariusLottery, I'm asking your permission to code based on the method's you prescribed.  I have or will make some modifications to your methodology as I deem necessary, but since it is your system (as first described) I'd prefer your okay to share it with others.  Please let me know if you have any problems with that.  Thanks everyone and good luck!

Right on posted codes?

Many codes are for free on internet. MSDN, Oracle, Wiki, blogs and so on.

To win you mainly need money to play, than make no mistakes, the payout is only 50% and less!

*keep crunching*

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yes please pm me

thank you

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Right on posted codes?

Many codes are for free on internet. MSDN, Oracle, Wiki, blogs and so on.

To win you mainly need money to play, than make no mistakes, the payout is only 50% and less!

Yes many codes are for free.  Some are not.  Since I'm looking to be a programmer for career purposes I don't want ALL my code to be for free.  Did microsoft get so big by giving their code away for free?  Some code is open source, some is free, some is not.  Be that as it may, I'm willing to share some of my work but not all of it.  If that doesn't appeal to you, then my apologies.  Find free code online and use that.  :)

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