You last visited June 19, 2013, 2:25 pm All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Did I possibly got scammed by storeclerk?Clarksville United States Member #489 July 15, 2002 16051 Posts Online | | Posted: August 3, 2012, 8:05 pm - IP Logged | |
You are right. My family just got alot of issues with medical bills and mortgage payments. Mom is laid off, Dad got a paycut. Just stressed out. Do you have a job? If so, what kind of job? In lots of places, the family members live together and have to pool their resources to stay afloat. Just do whatever you can do to contribute to the pot to get thru this rough spot. Don't rely on the lottery.. Posters are not forever... | | |
RIGHT HERE!! United States Member #123302 February 17, 2012 1099 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 3, 2012, 8:31 pm - IP Logged | |
I actually had one weird experience where i I scanned a ticket and it said not a winner. Now I know my winners and losers immediately when i see the results, so i made sure to give the clerk the ticket...PRESTO...it was a winner. Not a money winner, just a free play...so like the NYL says...hey you never know. Also what is up with the clerks ripping stuff up back there, when i go to redeem tickets and the clerks start grabbing things and ripping them, i am like "dude, whats with all the ripping?" Its very disconcerting knowing you have a potential 500 dollar ticket, and the clerk is ripping things. I figure if i paid for the ticket, winner or loser, the ticket still is "owned" by me, although i rarely sign my name on my ticket. I mean who does that? When i go to the ATM and take out $100, i dont grab my pen and say "let me sign my name on each $20 bill in case i lose them", Oh! You should always sign your name on your ticket! Its yours because you purchase it but signing could cut down on any issue of ownership should you somehow lose a winning ticket, just be on the safe side. Why go through the trouble of trying to prove it's yours when all you had to do was sign the back? A $20 bill is different from a lotto ticket. | | |
Clarksville United States Member #489 July 15, 2002 16051 Posts Online | | Posted: August 3, 2012, 8:36 pm - IP Logged | |
Oh! You should always sign your name on your ticket! Its yours because you purchase it but signing could cut down on any issue of ownership should you somehow lose a winning ticket, just be on the safe side. Why go through the trouble of trying to prove it's yours when all you had to do was sign the back? A $20 bill is different from a lotto ticket. You are so right!!! I almost got caught like that. In my case, I never took my eyes off the ticket and I told the lady to give it to me so I could sign it. There were only 2 people in that room, me and her. I saw my 25 grand floating away. Posters are not forever... | | |
Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 20691 Posts Online | | Posted: August 3, 2012, 9:15 pm - IP Logged | |
EVERYBODY CHILL OUT!!!! Todd, I'm extrememly disappointed that you would automatically assume the OP got ripped off. I'd expect that from some of the more paranoid and/or miserable types around here, but I thought you were better than that. Like Stack47 said, it's just as likely that the clerk was being honest. Given the sheer number of lottery transactions conducted in a day, the amount of fraud that goes on is miniscule. Also, given California's pari-mutuel prize system and having looked at a handful of recent results, it is extremely possible that either $10 or $11 was a legitimate prize for the drawing in question. And like RJOh said, it's been a few years so even if you did get ripped off, there's nothing you can do about it. You have no proof, and even if you could remember the date of the drawing and the date and time you cashed in the ticket, any evidence would be long gone. It does seem you've learned from the experience, though, so at least you can make sure it doesn't happen again. Oh, and knock it off with this "I'm going to hurt myself!" crap. With the problems you said your family is having, do you really want to make things worse by putting yourself in a hospital or a casket? If you're truly feeling despondent over this, PLEASE get professional help. Otherwise, calm down. Actually, it's important to recognize situations where there is a reasonable possibility that somebody got ripped off, so that others can learn from it. A ticket that scanned as a winner and did not provide the amount of the win (and just said "see the clerk") is LIKELY to be a big winner. There is no paranoia here, so try not to be too disappointed. | | |
Boise, ID United States Member #94311 July 17, 2010 1097 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 3, 2012, 9:22 pm - IP Logged | |
Actually, it's important to recognize situations where there is a reasonable possibility that somebody got ripped off, so that others can learn from it. A ticket that scanned as a winner and did not provide the amount of the win (and just said "see the clerk") is LIKELY to be a big winner. There is no paranoia here, so try not to be too disappointed. Not in my state it's not. The small 6" stand-alone scanners never say the amount in Idaho, even with the smaller wins. They always say "see the clerk". The scanners on the vending machines do give the amount. I have no idea if they enumerate the larger JP amounts since I've never won one. | | |
Florida Bahamas Member #130332 July 11, 2012 451 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 3, 2012, 10:28 pm - IP Logged | |
I watched a dateline show about this one time. They used a fake winning ticket and asked the clerk if it was a winner and he said no and thenfake ticket was a million dollar ticket. Later on the clerk tried to go cash it and got caught. It's always important to check the numbers yourself even after scanning the ticket. Good luck and blessings to all | | |
Ridge Runner - Oracle of the Appalachians Way back up in them dadgum hills, son! United States Member #74415 April 28, 2009 12622 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 3, 2012, 10:40 pm - IP Logged | |
After reading all of this I don't feel the need to hurt myself. But I do think I'll have a big ol' glass of whiskey. Which, to be perfectly honest, I was gonna do anyway. . “Let us disappoint the men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country.” -- John Adams | | |
Pennsylvania United States Member #17377 June 10, 2005 3040 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 3, 2012, 11:54 pm - IP Logged | |
PA rules state that amounts of $600 or more in pay out, the original ticket must be scanned , paperwork filed and the ORIGINAL CLAIMED Ticket must remain with the Authorized Lottery retailer for mailing in. So no, tickets must be authenticated, and therefore are not kept by the claimant. Imagine keeping your jackpot powerball ticket after claiming it! It just doesnt work that way...It must be turned over for authenticating. to the OP, curious why you are speculating oneway or the other, the reality is...its unknown and will stay that way. Keep your eyes moving forward , good fortune will catch up with you :) ________________________________ Into the peace and light went my beloved Mother....12/4/2012. Our sorrow is great yet our love remains greater. | | |
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United States Member #130029 July 4, 2012 833 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 12:54 am - IP Logged | |
Also, you are entitled to get your lottery tickets back from the cashier after they scan them. If someone ever tells you that they are forced to keep the ticket (even for a winning ticket), they are LYING and probably scamming you too. Are you sure about this for NY? Only one clerk gives them back to me. I used to like to keep them to keep a record, but I dont care so much anywmore as i developed a pretty good way to track them with excel. One girl used to give them to me, but then she said her boss said to stop. I dont know what the law states in NY but most clerks refuse to give them back claiming its not allowed. They also claim too many people, take the redeemed tickets and then try to RECLAIM them somewhere else and that if they return the winning tickets back to the customer then they can lose their priviledge to sell tickets. I dont know what the regulations say on paper, but I could see some scoundrels trying to redeem a ticket twice, and creating a big stink over it, so it is understandable. New York scanners also have the amounts showing, I will let you know on prizes over $600 when i get another one!!!!! I use to work with lottery machines at a grocery store. We have to keep a copy of the winning tickets for verification purposes but if I remember correctly, you can always ask for a printout of what was scanned. When the tickets are checked they say either winner or not a winner so I'm not sure how valid the excuse is in NY since I am not familiar. I'm always able to ask the clerk to let me see the ticket if it is a winner and a copy of the winning numbers. I always check at home prior to cashing in but humans make mistakes every now and then. | | |
upstate NY United States Member #108819 March 31, 2011 434 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 1:59 am - IP Logged | |
Actually, it's important to recognize situations where there is a reasonable possibility that somebody got ripped off, so that others can learn from it. A ticket that scanned as a winner and did not provide the amount of the win (and just said "see the clerk") is LIKELY to be a big winner. There is no paranoia here, so try not to be too disappointed. Possibility is one thing. Yes, the possibility exists. The way you presented it, though, it sounded like it was a lot more than a possibility. These days the self-service scanners may tell you the amount won, but according to the OP, this happened several years ago. I don't know about California, but when the scanners were first introduced in New York, the only information they provided was whether or not you had a winner. I haven't used the scanners here in a while, though -- I've already checked my tickets online before taking them to the store -- but I'll use them this week to see what they say. So far I've got a $12 PB winner and a couple of Take 5 free plays. | | |
upstate NY United States Member #108819 March 31, 2011 434 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 2:09 am - IP Logged | |
I use to work with lottery machines at a grocery store. We have to keep a copy of the winning tickets for verification purposes but if I remember correctly, you can always ask for a printout of what was scanned. When the tickets are checked they say either winner or not a winner so I'm not sure how valid the excuse is in NY since I am not familiar. I'm always able to ask the clerk to let me see the ticket if it is a winner and a copy of the winning numbers. I always check at home prior to cashing in but humans make mistakes every now and then. I believe that is the procedure in NY as well. I think I've only had the clerk return the ticket to me once, and a few times I've been asked if I wanted a receipt. They can probably give you one for any prize won if you'd like. It doesn't bother me that they keep the tickets. I've already checked them so I know if they're trying to rip me off, and once I've got my money, I have no need for the ticket. It does bug me when they try to keep my play slips, but that seems to be more of an absent-minded thing than any sort of malicious act, and it's only happened a couple times. You can tell by their reaction to the question "Can I have my slips back, please?" that they simply weren't paying attention to what they were doing. | | |
Oklahoma United States Member #82920 November 12, 2009 3625 Posts Online | | Posted: August 4, 2012, 8:41 am - IP Logged | |
Heave faith smoothj6 your time will come  Win BIG everyone..... I Love Pink & Green....1908 | | |
Pennsylvania United States Member #74607 May 2, 2009 14060 Posts Offline | | Posted: August 6, 2012, 8:39 pm - IP Logged | |
Possibility is one thing. Yes, the possibility exists. The way you presented it, though, it sounded like it was a lot more than a possibility. These days the self-service scanners may tell you the amount won, but according to the OP, this happened several years ago. I don't know about California, but when the scanners were first introduced in New York, the only information they provided was whether or not you had a winner. I haven't used the scanners here in a while, though -- I've already checked my tickets online before taking them to the store -- but I'll use them this week to see what they say. So far I've got a $12 PB winner and a couple of Take 5 free plays. I read what Todd wrote and it didn't sound overblown to me. There's nothing wrong either with being a little paranoid, especially in a hard up world. If you take anything from Todd's post, take heed.. the next person ripped off might be you. Did you ever think about, beforehand, what you'd say to a clerk who handed you $10 when you knew the ticket was $100? It's fine and dandy to know what you have before you hand it over but what happens when you hand it over and the clerk swears you gave him a loser? Just be ready. If it never happens to you, good for you. I've had a couple times where I handed multiple tickets over and the amount they came to was off....they owed me more. Even if it's a few bucks...it's a long day...a few bucks here a few bucks there, that's a nice profit for some cheating swine. OP..this was long ago and you just need to get over it and be careful from now on. 10x straights - 375/573, 395/935  | | |
Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 20691 Posts Online | | Posted: August 6, 2012, 8:49 pm - IP Logged | |
PA rules state that amounts of $600 or more in pay out, the original ticket must be scanned , paperwork filed and the ORIGINAL CLAIMED Ticket must remain with the Authorized Lottery retailer for mailing in. So no, tickets must be authenticated, and therefore are not kept by the claimant. Imagine keeping your jackpot powerball ticket after claiming it! It just doesnt work that way...It must be turned over for authenticating. to the OP, curious why you are speculating oneway or the other, the reality is...its unknown and will stay that way. Keep your eyes moving forward , good fortune will catch up with you :) That's not my understanding. You can ask the lottery retailer to mail it in, but you can always do it yourself. You can also take it directly to lottery HQ. I would always do it myself. If you really think you're right on this, please go ahead and post a link to the official PA Lottery Web site page showing that the retailer must mail in your winning ticket of an amount greater than $600. | | |
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