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13/05/2008123456911132327293132424552586465
4/12/2010123456710242729303947535560656667

6/6 = 200 EUR

DateN1N2N3N4N5N6N7N8N9N10N11N12N13N14N15N16N17N18N19N20
20/07/2009810151617181920212223384244525455566469
21/03/201223141718192021222324273234414454566366

9/9 = 50 000 EUR

8/8 = 10 000 EUR

Gail Howard: "Don't play 1 to 6!"

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    I could find only one drawing with spread numbers in more than 1000 drawings!

    16/08/200849121420222528313436404346495254566569
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      a couple months ago here in fl we had 98 people won on fantasy five playing 1 3 5 7 9 i wasnt one of them they only got like 2300 each lol

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        Every combination has exactly the same chance as any other combination, even if it did appaer 10 weeks in a row, in the following draw the stats are reset.

        Each combination does have a different chance of appearing in different positions on a ticket but the overall odds always remain unchanged,

        In a 6/49 lotto there are 13,983,816 different 6 ball combinations, you pick one line per bet you have one in 13,983,816 of winning the jackpot.

        Distributions come in to play when talking less than 6 hits in a 6/49 but the overall odds can never change no matter which combination you select

        I will now demonstrate

        -----------------------------------------------------

        In a 6/49 draw

        1,712,304 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 1 as the lowest ball

        178,365 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 2 as the 2nd ball

        15,180 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 3 as the 3rd ball

        990 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 4 as the 4th ball

        44 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 5 as the 5th ball

        1 combination of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 6 as the 6th ball (01 02 03 04 05 06)

        1,712,304 + 178,365 + 15,180 + 990 + 44 +1 = 1,906,884

        So 1,906,884 possible combinations in the 6/49 have at least one number that intersects one of the combination 01,02,03,04,05,06

        -----------------------------------------------------------

        Now to prove that there is a difference for whatever line chosen I will pick last week's lotto draw results which were 07 09 20 21 30 37 and repeat the above

        -----------------------------------------------------

        In a 6/49 draw

        850,668 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 7 as the lowest ball

        731,120 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 9 as the 2nd ball

        624,834 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 20 as the 3rd ball

        430,920 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 21 as the 4th ball

        451,269 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 30 as the 5th ball

        376,992 combination of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball 37 as the 6th ball

        850,668 + 731,120 + 624,834 + 430,920 + 451,269 + 376,992 = 3,465,803

        So 3,465,803 possible combinations in the 6/49 have at least one number that intersects one of the combination 07,09,20,21,30,37

        -----------------------------------------------------------

        By changing the numbers from 1,2,3,4,5,6 to 7,9,20,21,30,37 we have increased the odds of intersecting a single number by 1,558,919 to 1

        We can go further and do the same for two ball combinations, however this gets a little more complex in the approach as instead of 6 ball positions we now have 15 possible pair positions to deal with, (6 numbers break into 15 pairs

        1 2|1 3|1 4|1 5|1 6|2 3|2 4|2 5|2 6|3 4|3 5|3 6|4 5|4 6|5 6

         

        In a 6/49 draw

        01: 178,365 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 1 2 at position 1 2

        02: 15180 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 1 3 at position 1 3

        03: 990 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 1 4 at position 1 4

        04: 44 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 1 5 at position 1 5

        05: 1 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 1 6 at position 1 6

        06: 15,180 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 2 3 at position 2 3

        07: 990 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 2 4 at position 2 4

        08: 44 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 2 5 at position 2 5

        09: 1 combination of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 2 6 at position 2 6

        10: 990 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 3 4 at position 3 4

        11: 44 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 3 5 at position 3 5

        12: 1 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 3 6 at position 3 6

        13: 44 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 4 5 at position 4 5

        14: 1 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 4 6 at position 4 6

        15: 1 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 5 6 at position 5 6

         

         

        178,365+15180 +990 +44 +1+15,180 +990 +44+1 +990 +44 +1+44 +1 +1 = 211,876

        So 211,876 combinations in the 6/49 have two numbers that intersects one of the possible 15 pairs found in the combination 01,02,03,04,05,06

        -----------------------------------------------------------

        Again repeat for last week's numbers

        In a 6/49 draw

        01: 178,365 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 7 9 at position 1 2

        02: 15,180 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 7 20 at position 1 3

        03: 990 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 7 21 at position 1 4

        04: 44 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 7 30 at position 1 5

        05: 1 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 7 37 at position 1 6

        06: 29,232 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 9 20 at position 2 3

        07: 33,264 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 9 21 at position 2 4

        08: 28,880 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 9 30 at position 2 5

        09: 23,400 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 9 37 at position 2 6

        10: 64,638 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 20 21 at position 3 4

        11: 29,241 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 20 30 at position 3 5

        12: 20,520 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 20 37 at position 3 6

        13: 21,660 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 21 30 at position 4 5

        14: 17,100 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 21 37 at position 4 6

        15: 4,845 combinations of the possible 13,983,816 combinations have ball pair 30 37 at position 5 6

         

        178,365 +15,180 +990 +44 +1 +29,232 +33,264 +28,880 +23,400+64,638 +29,241 +20,520 +21,660 +17,100 +4,845 =467,360

         

        So 467,360 possible combinations in the 6/49 have two numbers that intersects one of possible 15 pairs found in the combination 7,9,20,21,30,37

        By changing the numbers from 1,2,3,4,5,6 to 7,9,20,21,30,37 we have increased the odds of intersecting a pair by 255,484 to 1

        So to cap this up, the lines you choose do appear to change the odds however

        And a big However

        Each pair appears the same number of times in the total combinations

        Just different amounts in different ticket positions.

        The fact is that in the 6/49 draw

        Each 2 ball combo appears a total of 178,365 times

        Each 3 ball combo appears a total of 15,180 times (1 in 56.6559)

        Each 4 ball combo appears a total of 990 times (1 in 1,032.4)

        Each 5 ball combo appears a total of 44 times (1 in 55,491.3)

        Each 6 ball combo appears once 1: (1 in 13,983,816)

        So the conclusion here is shuffling numbers about increases odds on some combinations but then in the same instance decreases the combinations in other ticket positions.

        Always leaveing the overall odds unchanged.

        Here is a small snippet taken from LSA that shows each 2 ball combo positions in a 6/49 draw, note they all add up to 178,365

        1=1 2 = 178,365 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        2=1 3 = 163,185 15,180 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        3=1 4 = 148,995 28,380 990 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        4=1 5 = 135,751 39,732 2,838 44 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        5=1 6 = 123,410 49,364 5,418 172 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        6=1 7 = 111,930 57,400 8,610 420 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        7=1 8 = 101,270 63,960 12,300 820 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        8=1 9 = 91,390 69,160 16,380 1,400 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        9=1 10 = 82,251 73,112 20,748 2,184 70 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        10=1 11 = 73,815 75,924 25,308 3,192 126 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        11=1 12 = 66,045 77,700 29,970 4,440 210 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        12=1 13 = 58,905 78,540 34,650 5,940 330 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        13=1 14 = 52,360 78,540 39,270 7,700 495 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        14=1 15 = 46,376 77,792 43,758 9,724 715 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        15=1 16 = 40,920 76,384 48,048 12,012 1,001 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365
        16=1 17 = 35,960 74,400 52,080 14,560 1,365 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 178,365

        It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

        There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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          Hello, good job telling, wonder how likely a lottery 49/6
            Repeat the same draw (six figures) in 5 or more draws followed?
          Revelator an example = the number 01, to match the 02 has only a number
            Now to match any other has 47 numbers fighting or competing
            With the number 02, then recapiturando, 01, one to 02 numbers for the remaining 47 chance
            Then a chance competing against 47, we have to focus on the 80% and not 20%, the frequency of these low standards, is very small

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            Hello, developer, can help me on this idea, to build a vtrac for 49/6
            Entao1 vtrac = 01.25 º
                      2 = 02.26 vtrac
            Until the 24th vtrac = 24.48,
              So it was with pairs vtrac 24, but the problem are the positions
              Example vtrac number 1 = 01,25, ie the number 01 is the 1st position, but his pair mate, the number 25, provalmente will be the 3rd or 4th position, must see this conflict when together a pair of vtrac to 49 / 6, can you help me? thank you

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              Hello, developer, can help me on this idea, to build a vtrac for 49/6
              Entao1 vtrac = 01.25 º
                        2 = 02.26 vtrac
              Until the 24th vtrac = 24.48,
                So it was with pairs vtrac 24, but the problem are the positions
                Example vtrac number 1 = 01,25, ie the number 01 is the 1st position, but his pair mate, the number 25, provalmente will be the 3rd or 4th position, must see this conflict when together a pair of vtrac to 49 / 6, can you help me? thank you

              List the pairs and I will give you the stats.

              I can also give the same stats on 3, 4,5 or 6 combo for any size pool lotto.

               

              Jamie

              It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

              There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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                List the pairs and I will give you the stats.

                I can also give the same stats on 3, 4,5 or 6 combo for any size pool lotto.

                 

                Jamie

                ok

                01 25

                02 26

                03 27

                04 28

                05 29

                06 30

                07 31

                08 32

                09 33

                10 34

                11 35

                12 36

                13 37

                14 38

                15 39

                16 40

                17 41

                18 42

                19 43

                20 44

                21 45

                22 46

                23 47

                24 48,49

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                  Hello, developer, I also need this research will form blocks of 49/6
                  With peers, a couple followed example 01.02 another pair with 26 5 31 delta
                  Are looks like 01.02 .26 .31, this is the default, the pair of delta can vary from 2, 18
                  The pair followed by the 6/49 are
                  01.02 02.03 04.05 06.07 08.09 10.11 12.13 14.15 16.17 18.19 20.21 22.23
                  24.25 26.27 28.29 30.31 32.33 34.35 36.37 38.39 40.41 42.43 44.45 46.47
                  48.49, good these are couples followed in sequence of 1 (one) the other pair
                  And as the definition of the delta to assemble the couple, there will be blocks from 49/6,
                  The other two missing numbers to complete the wager is random
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                    Hello developer, I forgot this standard example
                      In the draw 49/6 = 01,02,06,16 gave 21.39
                    Note that the pair 06.16 is also one sequence when seen in the vertical column
                      In an array 10 rows and five columns, such as 49 to take a number
                    Then we have the sequences online and in columns

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                      ok

                      01 25

                      02 26

                      03 27

                      04 28

                      05 29

                      06 30

                      07 31

                      08 32

                      09 33

                      10 34

                      11 35

                      12 36

                      13 37

                      14 38

                      15 39

                      16 40

                      17 41

                      18 42

                      19 43

                      20 44

                      21 45

                      22 46

                      23 47

                      24 48,49

                      01 2524=1   25-10626|46552|69828|42504|8855|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0
                      02 2672=2 26-8855|40733|64009|40733|8855|1771|5819|5819|1771|0|0|0|0|0|0
                      03 27119=3   27-7315|35420|58443|38962|8855|3080|10626|11132|3542|231|506|253|0|0|0
                      04 28165=4   28-5985|30590|53130|37191|8855|3990|14490|15939|5313|630|1449|759|21|23|0
                      05 29210=5   29-4845|26220|48070|35420|8855|4560|17480|20240|7084|1140|2760|1518|80|92|1
                      06 30254=6   30-3876|22287|43263|33649|8855|4845|19665|24035|8855|1710|4370|2530|190|230|5
                      07 31297=7   31-3060|18768|38709|31878|8855|4896|21114|27324|10626|2295|6210|3795|360|460|15
                      08 32339=8   32-2380|15640|34408|30107|8855|4760|21896|30107|12397|2856|8211|5313|595|805|35
                      09 33380=9   33-1820|12880|30360|28336|8855|4480|22080|32384|14168|3360|10304|7084|896|1288|70
                      10 34420=10   34-1365|10465|26565|26565|8855|4095|21735|34155|15939|3780|12420|9108|1260|1932|126
                      11 35459=11   35-1001|8372|23023|24794|8855|3640|20930|35420|17710|4095|14490|11385|1680|2760|210
                      12 36497=12   36-715|6578|19734|23023|8855|3146|19734|36179|19481|4290|16445|13915|2145|3795|330
                      13 37534=13   37-495|5060|16698|21252|8855|2640|18216|36432|21252|4356|18216|16698|2640|5060|495
                      14 38570=14   38-330|3795|13915|19481|8855|2145|16445|36179|23023|4290|19734|19734|3146|6578|715
                      15 39605=15   39-210|2760|11385|17710|8855|1680|14490|35420|24794|4095|20930|23023|3640|8372|1001
                      16 40639=16   40-126|1932|9108|15939|8855|1260|12420|34155|26565|3780|21735|26565|4095|10465|1365
                      17 41672=17   41-70|1288|7084|14168|8855|896|10304|32384|28336|3360|22080|30360|4480|12880|1820
                      18 42704=18   42-35|805|5313|12397|8855|595|8211|30107|30107|2856|21896|34408|4760|15640|2380
                      19 43735=19   43-15|460|3795|10626|8855|360|6210|27324|31878|2295|21114|38709|4896|18768|3060
                      20 44765=20   44-5|230|2530|8855|8855|190|4370|24035|33649|1710|19665|43263|4845|22287|3876
                      21 45794=21   45-1|92|1518|7084|8855|80|2760|20240|35420|1140|17480|48070|4560|26220|4845
                      22 46822=22   46-0|23|759|5313|8855|21|1449|15939|37191|630|14490|53130|3990|30590|5985
                      23 47849=23   47-0|0|253|3542|8855|0|506|11132|38962|231|10626|58443|3080|35420|7315
                      24 48875=24 48-0|0|0|1771|8855|0|0|5819|40733|0|5819|64009|1771|40733|8855
                      25 49900=25 49-0|0|0|0|8855|0|0|0|42504|0|0|69828|0|46552|10626

                      It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

                      There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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                        Just a note on the last post, the data is as follows

                        900=25 49-0|0|0|0|8855|0|0|0|42504|0|0|69828|0|46552|10626

                        Line | Pair |

                        XX0000 = 25 49 never appears in position one in the 6/49

                        X0X000 = 25 49 never appears in position two in the 6/49

                        X00X00 = 25 49 never appears in position three in the 6/49

                        X000X0 = 25 49 never appears in position four in the 6/49

                        X0000X = 25 49 appears in position five 8855 times in the 6/49

                        0XX000 and so on

                        0X0X00

                        0X00X0

                        0X000X

                        00XX00

                        00X0X0

                        00X00X

                        000XX0

                        000X0X

                        0000XX

                        It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

                        There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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                          Ok, developer, very good job, the idea is to see the example par vtrac
                            01.25 the best position and the best position for 01 to 25, and so with the other pairs

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                            Dr San - I have been thinking about this VTRAC system, bearing in mind I have not read up on it so could be wrong but from what you have explained in this post I see a floor in the system.

                            Say you have the pair 1 2 and you have made your system based upon this.

                            The math is only correct until the first number is drawn, at that point it all falls over as effectively at that point in time you're playing a 5/48 draw not a 6/49

                            So with a 6/49 the pair 1 2 appears 178,365 times

                            Now let's say the first ball drawn is ball number 1 to keep this as simple as possible, what then happens to the system?.

                            This would then leave the remaining combinations from a game of 5/48

                            2=1 3-14190|990|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            3=1 4-13244|1892|44|0|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            4=1 5-12341|2709|129|1|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            5=1 6-11480|3444|252|4|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            6=1 7-10660|4100|410|10|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            7=1 8-9880|4680|600|20|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            8=1 9-9139|5187|819|35|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            9=1 10-8436|5624|1064|56|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            10=1 11-7770|5994|1332|84|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            11=1 12-7140|6300|1620|120|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            12=1 13-6545|6545|1925|165|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            13=1 14-5984|6732|2244|220|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            14=1 15-5456|6864|2574|286|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            15=1 16-4960|6944|2912|364|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            16=1 17-4495|6975|3255|455|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            17=1 18-4060|6960|3600|560|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            18=1 19-3654|6902|3944|680|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            19=1 20-3276|6804|4284|816|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            20=1 21-2925|6669|4617|969|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            21=1 22-2600|6500|4940|1140|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            22=1 23-2300|6300|5250|1330|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            23=1 24-2024|6072|5544|1540|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            24=1 25-1771|5819|5819|1771|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            25=1 26-1540|5544|6072|2024|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            26=1 27-1330|5250|6300|2300|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            27=1 28-1140|4940|6500|2600|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            28=1 29-969|4617|6669|2925|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            29=1 30-816|4284|6804|3276|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            30=1 31-680|3944|6902|3654|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            31=1 32-560|3600|6960|4060|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            32=1 33-455|3255|6975|4495|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            33=1 34-364|2912|6944|4960|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            34=1 35-286|2574|6864|5456|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            35=1 36-220|2244|6732|5984|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            36=1 37-165|1925|6545|6545|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            37=1 38-120|1620|6300|7140|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            38=1 39-84|1332|5994|7770|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            39=1 40-56|1064|5624|8436|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            40=1 41-35|819|5187|9139|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            41=1 42-20|600|4680|9880|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            42=1 43-10|410|4100|10660|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            43=1 44-4|252|3444|11480|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            44=1 45-1|129|2709|12341|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            45=1 46-0|44|1892|13244|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            46=1 47-0|0|990|14190|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            47=1 48-0|0|0|15180|0|0|0|0|0|0

                            The way I see it is that we would have to take into account that any combination that starts with the ball number one is now valid all other combinations in the 6/49 become invalid.

                            This then leaves you just 15,180 combinations that could possibly win, (one of the remaining 15,180 combos will be the winning combination)

                            So everything has now changed and in a very big way.

                            The way I see this is that you would have to make 4 VTRACs 6/48, 5/48, 4/47, 3/46 then create a permutation of the results to make a VTRAC wheel if you like.

                            Each VTRAC would depend on the higher VTRAC being accurate in its prediction or it all fails over.

                            So if I understand what your hoping to achieve is correct it would cost a lot of money to do correctly

                            It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

                            There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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                              Somerset
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                              Posted: January 10, 2013, 6:45 pm - IP Logged

                              Have you a spread sheet I could look at to understand this fully.

                               

                              Thanks

                              It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

                              There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.