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Okay, I'll play devil's advocate.
The only filters you need are the e/o and hi/lo. With those two you have clear, concise understandable divisions. Keep it simple. We already have even and odd number in the high/lo set and high and lo numbers in the even/odd set.
Why split the set into e/o and high/lo, then put them back together and claim they have different properties?
Haven't found a use for inside/outside or BalaNced and don't see any in the foreseeable future. They offer nothing we don't already have in the e/o and hi/lo filters.
They may offer some insight as alternative filters but no one has produced any evidence of an appreciable value over the simpler standards that all lottery players use and comprehend. Yeah, I'm one of those people.I'd never trade what works unless it work better.
Ironic that the BalaNced filter is called that. One set consists of 3even and two odds and the other is three odd and two evens. How is that balanced?
I did write in/out, BalaNced and open/closed/straight into some programming and after prolonged brain freeze trying to apply different standards to the same numbers decided, (personally) I have no use for them.
The questions is: How do you use them?
G
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Hello, garyo 1954
How do you use them? Perhaps, by column position by position
Using deltas (intervals by position) in each vertical position. Joining the frequency of 5/5 hot and cold (but by using the statistical column.
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"The imagination is what limits"
By "Fernando".
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I was going to give an example, but sorry I won't, I already made way too many past filters posts.
Beside,s people should be their very own and do with filters only what they want to do with them.
Each person has his or her own mind and will.
I myself would use all 4 of them filters, I would not limit myself to just 2 of them.
I myself made 2 of those 4 filters for my own reasons, I find that I can get more filtration using all 4 of them.
I am aware of filters failures, I should know, but I believe that I know or knew how to use filters, at least those filters of which I posted about.
But to each person their own, each of us knows or should know what we want and how we want it.
ds san wants to know how to use them, but sorry I posted what I wanted to post and nowdays I don't want to post too much any more, besides I never wanted to post too much about some things, just about other things.
Even so, somewhere on my thousands of past posts there is probably some of the info that dr san is now asking for.
After all, remember, those 4 filters are very much used in the same way, if you know how to use 1 of those 4 filters, then you know how to use all 4 of them and that is the truth.
I believe that in the past I showed at least a few times that filtration can work, but you need to take the time and make the effort to learn and practice and practice and practice over and over again.
I no longer want to think too much about the lottery nor care much about prediction, but there was a very long time when I could not get those things out of my mind, in those days pick 3 box prediction came much easier.
Filtration is no good if we get filters failures, we should learn how to overcome some of that.
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Quote: Originally posted by MonEl on Sep 18, 2014
"The imagination is what limits"
By "Fernando".
-------------------------------------------
I was going to give an example, but sorry I won't, I already made way too many past filters posts.
Beside,s people should be their very own and do with filters only what they want to do with them.
Each person has his or her own mind and will.
I myself would use all 4 of them filters, I would not limit myself to just 2 of them.
I myself made 2 of those 4 filters for my own reasons, I find that I can get more filtration using all 4 of them.
I am aware of filters failures, I should know, but I believe that I know or knew how to use filters, at least those filters of which I posted about.
But to each person their own, each of us knows or should know what we want and how we want it.
ds san wants to know how to use them, but sorry I posted what I wanted to post and nowdays I don't want to post too much any more, besides I never wanted to post too much about some things, just about other things.
Even so, somewhere on my thousands of past posts there is probably some of the info that dr san is now asking for.
After all, remember, those 4 filters are very much used in the same way, if you know how to use 1 of those 4 filters, then you know how to use all 4 of them and that is the truth.
I believe that in the past I showed at least a few times that filtration can work, but you need to take the time and make the effort to learn and practice and practice and practice over and over again.
I no longer want to think too much about the lottery nor care much about prediction, but there was a very long time when I could not get those things out of my mind, in those days pick 3 box prediction came much easier.
Filtration is no good if we get filters failures, we should learn how to overcome some of that.
Good Luck!
Mon-el,
NOBODY,least of all me, is dismissing any of the work you have done on filters. I understand there is WORK to these games. I appreciate all the ideas and thought provoking posts every day.
There is not a doubt in my mind, you know how to use any and all tools at your disposal. Nobody is questioning your ability or the work you put into these.
But can you truly look at BNB and tell whether it is high, low, even or odd? It could be any of those or a mixture of those. Now when someone looks at HLH they immediately know they have 2 highs and a low. Secondly, when we have to start writing designations like LEOB (low, even, outside, Bala) we've used the same number of letters as ZERO. Or a HOON (high, odd, outside, Nced) number. What is so hard with saying NINE? Same number of letters.
And when you talk about people NOT KNOWING filters, well the inside/outside filter is a revamped version of the old Sedertree Spike/Trough Gauss filter. And the only revamping is to put the digit two in the trough.
The original Sedertree Spike/Trough Gauss, sometimes called the outside/inside filter, was broken into an edge set and a middle set. That's why it was called Spike/Trough.
There is 0, 1, 8, 9 which fall in the OUTER 40% of the bell curve. They comprise the lowest points, the TROUGH, of the bell curve.
Then there is 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 which fall in the INNER 60% of the bell curve. Those numbers comprise the highest point, the SPIKE, of the bell curve.
Any three numbers in the SPIKE will fall 21.6% of the time. Those were termed SSS hits.
Two SPIKES and TROUGH (SST, STS, TSS) will produce hits 14.4% of the time.
Two TROUGHS and a SPIKE (TTS, STT, STS) will produce hits 9.6%.
Three TROUGHS (TTT) only hit 6.4% of the time.
How does BalaNced compare? How does it compliment? What does it do that this one won't?
By taking the 2 and moving it to the outside, you diminish the TRUE PURPOSE OF THE FILTER.
I understand you produced it for your own purpose. I produce a lot of "stuff," and plenty of garbage, for my own purpose. If I ever take a notion to delete every program that needs work, or don't work to my specs, I'd recover several tens of megs, or more. That's to say, I understand you produced it and it works for you and you are happy with it. Its the same with the programs I use that I wouldn't expect anyone else to understand.
I can look at an E and know we're talking even. I can look at an H and know the number is 5 or above. But I can't look at a B or an N and know whether it is high, low, even or odd. And you can't either.
And that is why I said it would be an ALTERNATIVE FILTER.
G
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Garyo Hello, good job filter, it is important that you do not have conflict within the limits
Filters, one could also use 50/50 involving statistics from
Example 5 digits warm and cold 5, 5 and 5 late too late, ie associated
The statistics for mounting the filters, the use of the median as well, to play in more than one drawing
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Sep 18, 2014
Mon-el,
NOBODY,least of all me, is dismissing any of the work you have done on filters. I understand there is WORK to these games. I appreciate all the ideas and thought provoking posts every day.
There is not a doubt in my mind, you know how to use any and all tools at your disposal. Nobody is questioning your ability or the work you put into these.
But can you truly look at BNB and tell whether it is high, low, even or odd? It could be any of those or a mixture of those. Now when someone looks at HLH they immediately know they have 2 highs and a low. Secondly, when we have to start writing designations like LEOB (low, even, outside, Bala) we've used the same number of letters as ZERO. Or a HOON (high, odd, outside, Nced) number. What is so hard with saying NINE? Same number of letters.
And when you talk about people NOT KNOWING filters, well the inside/outside filter is a revamped version of the old Sedertree Spike/Trough Gauss filter. And the only revamping is to put the digit two in the trough.
The original Sedertree Spike/Trough Gauss, sometimes called the outside/inside filter, was broken into an edge set and a middle set. That's why it was called Spike/Trough.
There is 0, 1, 8, 9 which fall in the OUTER 40% of the bell curve. They comprise the lowest points, the TROUGH, of the bell curve.
Then there is 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 which fall in the INNER 60% of the bell curve. Those numbers comprise the highest point, the SPIKE, of the bell curve.
Any three numbers in the SPIKE will fall 21.6% of the time. Those were termed SSS hits.
Two SPIKES and TROUGH (SST, STS, TSS) will produce hits 14.4% of the time.
Two TROUGHS and a SPIKE (TTS, STT, STS) will produce hits 9.6%.
Three TROUGHS (TTT) only hit 6.4% of the time.
How does BalaNced compare? How does it compliment? What does it do that this one won't?
By taking the 2 and moving it to the outside, you diminish the TRUE PURPOSE OF THE FILTER.
I understand you produced it for your own purpose. I produce a lot of "stuff," and plenty of garbage, for my own purpose. If I ever take a notion to delete every program that needs work, or don't work to my specs, I'd recover several tens of megs, or more. That's to say, I understand you produced it and it works for you and you are happy with it. Its the same with the programs I use that I wouldn't expect anyone else to understand.
I can look at an E and know we're talking even. I can look at an H and know the number is 5 or above. But I can't look at a B or an N and know whether it is high, low, even or odd. And you can't either.
And that is why I said it would be an ALTERNATIVE FILTER.
G
garyo1954
Hello!
I used Sedertree's program and his filters in it and tried to make it produce a profit and I could not, that might have been why I made a small change to his filter.
Yes, I also read about his 60/40 filter stuff.
Well, Sedertree made his stuff for his very own use and good for him if it worked for him.
He also had ideas and made stuff for the roulette and he said that he won with it at casinos, good for him.
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Thanks very much for the stuff that you wrote.
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You know, we all have some lottery ideas, but what works for some people might not work or work as well for others.
Yes, I made those 2 filter for my own use, but some people might have no use for them, some people do seem to have a use for the In-Out filter, but as the Bala-Nced was not put into the LotSoft sotware people including me can't easily use it.
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Yes, I know what you say about Low-High, Even-Odd, In-Out and Bala-Nced and it is true, of course.
But I myself don't just think in terms of Low-High and Even-Odd.
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Quote: Originally posted by MonEl on Sep 18, 2014
garyo1954
Hello!
I used Sedertree's program and his filters in it and tried to make it produce a profit and I could not, that might have been why I made a small change to his filter.
Yes, I also read about his 60/40 filter stuff.
Well, Sedertree made his stuff for his very own use and good for him if it worked for him.
He also had ideas and made stuff for the roulette and he said that he won with it at casinos, good for him.
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Thanks very much for the stuff that you wrote.
----------
You know, we all have some lottery ideas, but what works for some people might not work or work as well for others.
Yes, I made those 2 filter for my own use, but some people might have no use for them, some people do seem to have a use for the In-Out filter, but as the Bala-Nced was not put into the LotSoft sotware people including me can't easily use it.
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Yes, I know what you say about Low-High, Even-Odd, In-Out and Bala-Nced and it is true, of course.
But I myself don't just think in terms of Low-High and Even-Odd.
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Well, thanks much and later again sometime.
Mon-el,
I sincerely apologize if I have in any way offended you.
You are a valuable member of this board who adds thought provoking ideas that challenge the concept of the lottery. As you say, we don't have to agree, but not agreeing does not mean I don't respect the effort you put in, or the contributions you make, to Lottery Post.
I hope there are no hard feeling. I harbor none, wishing you only the best in whatever endeavor you choose.
G
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Hello monel you think of the 4 patterns by filtering your position? Example In the standard pair (and others too) have five positions in the pattern I choose the digit in the 5th
1,2,3,4,5 And in others repeat the position at most three times in 5th position
The problem is to find the correct position to be pivotal.
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Sep 18, 2014
Mon-el,
I sincerely apologize if I have in any way offended you.
You are a valuable member of this board who adds thought provoking ideas that challenge the concept of the lottery. As you say, we don't have to agree, but not agreeing does not mean I don't respect the effort you put in, or the contributions you make, to Lottery Post.
I hope there are no hard feeling. I harbor none, wishing you only the best in whatever endeavor you choose.
G
No problem you are very polite and you didn't offend me in any way, thanks a lot!!!!!
I will after all make and post one or more examples of those 4 filters either tonight and or on this weekend.
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Quote: Originally posted by dr san on Sep 18, 2014
Hello monel you think of the 4 patterns by filtering your position? Example In the standard pair (and others too) have five positions in the pattern I choose the digit in the 5th
1,2,3,4,5 And in others repeat the position at most three times in 5th position
The problem is to find the correct position to be pivotal.
dr san
I will after all give one or more examples o those 4 filters either boxed and or straight, either tonight and or on the weekend.