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• Rocko2x

  

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  The "Infamous $99 Wheel" gives 8 sets of numbers and of those it guarantees one set will have 2 of 3 winning numbers for the next draw as long as the result is not a double or triple. Running back tests it seems to perform as stated, even when a double falls it will sometimes contain two of the three digits for the next draw. It's obviously a wheeling system but how does it work and what is the math behind it?

   

  11-18-14	101
  11-17-14	697	270, 387, 432, 471, 408, 013, 569, 821
  11-16-14	368	073, 187, 910, 972, 938, 321, 465, 802
  11-15-14	916	306, 490, 543, 502, 569, 624, 718, 932
  11-14-14	552	857, 945, 198, 150, 174, 709, 263, 480
  11-13-14	480	196, 289, 521, 593, 568, 632, 704, 813
  11-12-14	075	048, 154, 210, 249, 285, 891, 763, 509
  11-11-14	744	048, 154, 210, 249, 285, 891, 763, 509
  11-10-14	121	514, 621, 865, 817, 842, 476, 903, 257
  11-09-14	168	371, 487, 543, 572, 518, 124, 069, 832
  11-08-14	673	073, 167, 210, 279, 236, 391, 458, 609
  11-07-14	851	295, 379, 132, 194, 157, 543, 860, 724
  11-06-14	275	062, 976, 890, 861, 827, 219, 354, 701
  11-05-14	555	059, 165, 810, 852, 896, 921, 347, 602
  11-04-14	547	058, 165, 910, 952, 986, 821, 347, 602
  11-03-14	147	064, 856, 180, 169, 145, 498, 732, 509
  11-02-14	523	836, 943, 798, 730, 764, 609, 125, 480
  11-01-14	222	529, 632, 865, 827, 893, 976, 014, 357
  10-31-14	159	207, 390, 632, 604, 679, 743, 815, 924
  10-30-14	682	075, 187, 410, 473, 458, 531, 962, 803
  10-29-14	320	629, 712, 876, 825, 891, 957, 430, 165
  10-28-14	225	826, 932, 098, 027, 063, 679, 541, 387
  10-27-14	807	381, 498, 543, 582, 519, 124, 670, 932
  10-26-14	629	386, 478, 243, 285, 267, 654, 910, 735
  10-25-14	644	042, 154, 810, 849, 825, 291, 763, 509
  10-24-14	177	475, 387, 234, 270, 258, 503, 169, 840
• destinycreation

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Rocko2x on Nov 18, 2014

  The "Infamous $99 Wheel" gives 8 sets of numbers and of those it guarantees one set will have 2 of 3 winning numbers for the next draw as long as the result is not a double or triple. Running back tests it seems to perform as stated, even when a double falls it will sometimes contain two of the three digits for the next draw. It's obviously a wheeling system but how does it work and what is the math behind it?

   

  11-18-14	101
  11-17-14	697	270, 387, 432, 471, 408, 013, 569, 821
  11-16-14	368	073, 187, 910, 972, 938, 321, 465, 802
  11-15-14	916	306, 490, 543, 502, 569, 624, 718, 932
  11-14-14	552	857, 945, 198, 150, 174, 709, 263, 480
  11-13-14	480	196, 289, 521, 593, 568, 632, 704, 813
  11-12-14	075	048, 154, 210, 249, 285, 891, 763, 509
  11-11-14	744	048, 154, 210, 249, 285, 891, 763, 509
  11-10-14	121	514, 621, 865, 817, 842, 476, 903, 257
  11-09-14	168	371, 487, 543, 572, 518, 124, 069, 832
  11-08-14	673	073, 167, 210, 279, 236, 391, 458, 609
  11-07-14	851	295, 379, 132, 194, 157, 543, 860, 724
  11-06-14	275	062, 976, 890, 861, 827, 219, 354, 701
  11-05-14	555	059, 165, 810, 852, 896, 921, 347, 602
  11-04-14	547	058, 165, 910, 952, 986, 821, 347, 602
  11-03-14	147	064, 856, 180, 169, 145, 498, 732, 509
  11-02-14	523	836, 943, 798, 730, 764, 609, 125, 480
  11-01-14	222	529, 632, 865, 827, 893, 976, 014, 357
  10-31-14	159	207, 390, 632, 604, 679, 743, 815, 924
  10-30-14	682	075, 187, 410, 473, 458, 531, 962, 803
  10-29-14	320	629, 712, 876, 825, 891, 957, 430, 165
  10-28-14	225	826, 932, 098, 027, 063, 679, 541, 387
  10-27-14	807	381, 498, 543, 582, 519, 124, 670, 932
  10-26-14	629	386, 478, 243, 285, 267, 654, 910, 735
  10-25-14	644	042, 154, 810, 849, 825, 291, 763, 509
  10-24-14	177	475, 387, 234, 270, 258, 503, 169, 840

  What difference does it make, about the math behind it ??? 2 out of 3 [a PAIR] is NOT a win.  In a group of 8 numbers, you still have No Idea which number in the group contains 2/3 [a Pair], and which pair might be the potential winning pair, that you would use to attach the digits (0 - 9).

  Your Example:

  11/15/14 - 306, 490, 543, 502, 569, 625, 718, 932

  1) What's the point of playing all 8 of these numbers, b/c you're only guaranteed 2/3 [A Pair] will Hit. You don't know which Pair, from which number!  Is it 30, 06, 36, 49, 90, 40, etc...??? You see my point ??!! You have to find the right pair, from the right number, and attach the digits 0 - 9.

  From your example, It just so happens, that the correct pair on this day was 36. Well, who would have known to play that particular pair ???
• PeerGynt

  

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  Ah, the illusion of numbers....
  
  Here's a trick: take all ten digits - 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
  
  Now, in any - absolutely any - order, make three columns, one three digits tall, one four digits tall, the last three digits tall. For example....
  
  8
  3 6 0
  7 1 5
  4 2 9
  
  Now, you have a "strategy" for play (singles only). Just play the right numbers, one from each column, until you hit.
  
  And an added bonus: you have a total of twelve pairs running up and down... only about 1/4th of all the available singles pairs. And yet... every single time without exception that you fail to hit going across, you still get a winning pair! No matter what!
  
  But I say "strategy" in quotes because... good luck getting anything like consistency out of this... not to mention turning one pair out of twelve you can't identify into a winning play....
  
  Yes indeed, the wonderful illusion of numbers!

  We have no dreams at all, or interesting ones. We should learn to be awake the same way—not at all, or in an interesting manner.   -- Friedrich Nietzsche
• Rocko2x

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Nov 18, 2014

  What difference does it make, about the math behind it ??? 2 out of 3 [a PAIR] is NOT a win.  In a group of 8 numbers, you still have No Idea which number in the group contains 2/3 [a Pair], and which pair might be the potential winning pair, that you would use to attach the digits (0 - 9).

  Your Example:

  11/15/14 - 306, 490, 543, 502, 569, 625, 718, 932

  1) What's the point of playing all 8 of these numbers, b/c you're only guaranteed 2/3 [A Pair] will Hit. You don't know which Pair, from which number!  Is it 30, 06, 36, 49, 90, 40, etc...??? You see my point ??!! You have to find the right pair, from the right number, and attach the digits 0 - 9.

  From your example, It just so happens, that the correct pair on this day was 36. Well, who would have known to play that particular pair ???

  Thanks for your input destiny, but im not interested in a system for producing wins. This is why I posted this in the math forum and not the system forum. I like to analyze numbers and patterns, I always have. If I can get a better understanding of why this system/wheel works than maybe I can expand on it to make something that will work for me.

  That's what I like to do, I like to find systems & patterns that produce results and try to expand on them. This is why it makes a difference to me. You are correct that out of the 24 pairs each set produces that it would be impossible to determine which pair to play but you are foolish in assuming I would try to play all 8 sets or all 24 pairs to try to produce a win. 2 out of 3 is a start and I would like to better understand why and how it works.

   

  Original Post by PeerGynt Ah, the illusion of numbers.... Here's a trick: take all ten digits - 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Now, in any - absolutely any - order, make three columns, one three digits tall, one four digits tall, the last three digits tall. For example.... 8 3 6 0 7 1 5 4 2 9 Now, you have a "strategy" for play (singles only). Just play the right numbers, one from each column, until you hit. And an added bonus: you have a total of twelve pairs running up and down... only about 1/4th of all the available singles pairs. And yet... every single time without exception that you fail to hit going across, you still get a winning pair! No matter what! But I say "strategy" in quotes because... good luck getting anything like consistency out of this... not to mention turning one pair out of twelve you can't identify into a winning play.... Yes indeed, the wonderful illusion of numbers!

  
  Interesting PeerGynt.. Yes numbers can be very tricky indeed. Let see if I understand this correctly, going with your 4/3/3 columns:

  8
  3 6 0
  7 1 5
  4 2 9

  the 12 pairs running up and down would be:

  8374: 37 74 34 83 87 84
  612:   61 12 62
  059:   05 59 09

  I know you said this isn't a winning strategy, which isn't what I'm looking for, just looking for something that shows semi results for the moment that I can hopefully expand upon. Please let me know if I misinterpreted what you posted. Thank you for the reply.
• PeerGynt

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Rocko2x on Nov 19, 2014

  Thanks for your input destiny, but im not interested in a system for producing wins. This is why I posted this in the math forum and not the system forum. I like to analyze numbers and patterns, I always have. If I can get a better understanding of why this system/wheel works than maybe I can expand on it to make something that will work for me.

  That's what I like to do, I like to find systems & patterns that produce results and try to expand on them. This is why it makes a difference to me. You are correct that out of the 24 pairs each set produces that it would be impossible to determine which pair to play but you are foolish in assuming I would try to play all 8 sets or all 24 pairs to try to produce a win. 2 out of 3 is a start and I would like to better understand why and how it works.

   

  Original Post by PeerGynt Ah, the illusion of numbers.... Here's a trick: take all ten digits - 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Now, in any - absolutely any - order, make three columns, one three digits tall, one four digits tall, the last three digits tall. For example.... 8 3 6 0 7 1 5 4 2 9 Now, you have a "strategy" for play (singles only). Just play the right numbers, one from each column, until you hit. And an added bonus: you have a total of twelve pairs running up and down... only about 1/4th of all the available singles pairs. And yet... every single time without exception that you fail to hit going across, you still get a winning pair! No matter what! But I say "strategy" in quotes because... good luck getting anything like consistency out of this... not to mention turning one pair out of twelve you can't identify into a winning play.... Yes indeed, the wonderful illusion of numbers!

  
  Interesting PeerGynt.. Yes numbers can be very tricky indeed. Let see if I understand this correctly, going with your 4/3/3 columns:

  8
  3 6 0
  7 1 5
  4 2 9

  the 12 pairs running up and down would be:

  8374: 37 74 34 83 87 84
  612:   61 12 62
  059:   05 59 09

  I know you said this isn't a winning strategy, which isn't what I'm looking for, just looking for something that shows semi results for the moment that I can hopefully expand upon. Please let me know if I misinterpreted what you posted. Thank you for the reply.

  Yes, that's correct, Rocko. I hope you can make it work for you.

  We have no dreams at all, or interesting ones. We should learn to be awake the same way—not at all, or in an interesting manner.   -- Friedrich Nietzsche
• Stack47

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Rocko2x on Nov 18, 2014

  The "Infamous $99 Wheel" gives 8 sets of numbers and of those it guarantees one set will have 2 of 3 winning numbers for the next draw as long as the result is not a double or triple. Running back tests it seems to perform as stated, even when a double falls it will sometimes contain two of the three digits for the next draw. It's obviously a wheeling system but how does it work and what is the math behind it?

   

  11-18-14	101
  11-17-14	697	270, 387, 432, 471, 408, 013, 569, 821
  11-16-14	368	073, 187, 910, 972, 938, 321, 465, 802
  11-15-14	916	306, 490, 543, 502, 569, 624, 718, 932
  11-14-14	552	857, 945, 198, 150, 174, 709, 263, 480
  11-13-14	480	196, 289, 521, 593, 568, 632, 704, 813
  11-12-14	075	048, 154, 210, 249, 285, 891, 763, 509
  11-11-14	744	048, 154, 210, 249, 285, 891, 763, 509
  11-10-14	121	514, 621, 865, 817, 842, 476, 903, 257
  11-09-14	168	371, 487, 543, 572, 518, 124, 069, 832
  11-08-14	673	073, 167, 210, 279, 236, 391, 458, 609
  11-07-14	851	295, 379, 132, 194, 157, 543, 860, 724
  11-06-14	275	062, 976, 890, 861, 827, 219, 354, 701
  11-05-14	555	059, 165, 810, 852, 896, 921, 347, 602
  11-04-14	547	058, 165, 910, 952, 986, 821, 347, 602
  11-03-14	147	064, 856, 180, 169, 145, 498, 732, 509
  11-02-14	523	836, 943, 798, 730, 764, 609, 125, 480
  11-01-14	222	529, 632, 865, 827, 893, 976, 014, 357
  10-31-14	159	207, 390, 632, 604, 679, 743, 815, 924
  10-30-14	682	075, 187, 410, 473, 458, 531, 962, 803
  10-29-14	320	629, 712, 876, 825, 891, 957, 430, 165
  10-28-14	225	826, 932, 098, 027, 063, 679, 541, 387
  10-27-14	807	381, 498, 543, 582, 519, 124, 670, 932
  10-26-14	629	386, 478, 243, 285, 267, 654, 910, 735
  10-25-14	644	042, 154, 810, 849, 825, 291, 763, 509
  10-24-14	177	475, 387, 234, 270, 258, 503, 169, 840

  It works because mathematically it takes 8 lines to create a guaranteed 2 if 3 of 10 number wheel. Why is it called the "$99 Wheel" when it can be played for $4?