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Quote: Originally posted by Wentworth on Dec 5, 2014
OnlyMoney your still the best, nobody said they spent millions just for bragging rights... they may spend hundreds to show a few pick 3 wins but they still dont show you there was a loss doing it.
Not millions! then they sell books for 495.00 which not counting maybe losing a hundred bux on the tickets, cost them two bux to knock out, theres the profits!
Anyway... youre right it doesnt matter...i hope you will keep up the good ideas and posts that you put up They are very good...For cash now 1 sorry we did not understand your response ...for cash now press one... sorry that was not a correct response... please enter your social security number.. bank account number
date of birth full name and press 3 :O)
I never said that somebody said they spend millions, but they WOULD HAVE TO in order for this to be true. And again, they wouldn't spend that much because they'd run their business into the ground. So the whole thing makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
The debunker wannabes have been wracking their brains for a couple of years now trying to come up with a reasonable explanation as to why and how Peter St. Pierre is making an average of 70 grand a year in the p-3 and p-4 in N.H. for the last 6 years, but they make themselves look pretty dumb.
You have to understand, it's not just p-3 wins that are shown on his promos, it's a lot of games other than the p-3, like p-5, and p-6 games where he shows checks into the hundreds of thousands.
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Dec 5, 2014
I never said that somebody said they spend millions, but they WOULD HAVE TO in order for this to be true. And again, they wouldn't spend that much because they'd run their business into the ground. So the whole thing makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
The debunker wannabes have been wracking their brains for a couple of years now trying to come up with a reasonable explanation as to why and how Peter St. Pierre is making an average of 70 grand a year in the p-3 and p-4 in N.H. for the last 6 years, but they make themselves look pretty dumb.
You have to understand, it's not just p-3 wins that are shown on his promos, it's a lot of games other than the p-3, like p-5, and p-6 games where he shows checks into the hundreds of thousands.
It's my cash, and I want it NOW!!!
No offense, but I still don't buy into the Peter St. Pierre story. The name sounds phony as well as the story. I need to see some type of proof that this guy even exists and is making 70G's a year. Also,what proof do you have to back the story up? Was this ever really confirmed and by who? Or just heresay?
But that's my opinion. It is what it is. I still enjoy your posts. Anyways, instead of playing a few codes last night I used 5 digits 0-1-2-4-7-9. Wheeled them so there were no more than 3 different end digits in a line with a 50% guarantee of 4/5 if all 5 digits selected.
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Quote: Originally posted by flossdog on Dec 5, 2014
No offense, but I still don't buy into the Peter St. Pierre story. The name sounds phony as well as the story. I need to see some type of proof that this guy even exists and is making 70G's a year. Also,what proof do you have to back the story up? Was this ever really confirmed and by who? Or just heresay?
But that's my opinion. It is what it is. I still enjoy your posts. Anyways, instead of playing a few codes last night I used 5 digits 0-1-2-4-7-9. Wheeled them so there were no more than 3 different end digits in a line with a 50% guarantee of 4/5 if all 5 digits selected.
Almost had 4 numbers. NY Take 5. 1-2-22-32-38
I already showed the N.H. lottery website where I went back five years and tallied all his wins in the p-3 and p-4, posted them here on LP, where he was averaging 70 grand a year. That was about a year ago, and he's still doing it.
whether he's real or fake doesn't matter, someone or some group under that name is making that money. And again, if it's really Steve Player in disguise, I'm hard pressed to think he's spending hundreds of thousands in losing tickets and winning every month in the red to justify his yearly sales of his systems. It makes no sense whatsoever.
Some here even said it was just a rich guy getting his rocks off playing the games and losing, like gambling in Vegas. But that story is also ridiculous. I can understand someone with deep pockets blowing money, losing and having fun in Vegas, but what thrill does someone get losing money at their local gas station where they purchase their tickets?..Yeah, lots of fun, a blast !...lol
And who does this for six years in the red? He'd have to have hundreds of millions to blow, and be mentally challenged to waste all that money for 6 years now. Does any of this make sense? Yet we have somewhat intelligent people here who still don't believe it. They firmly believe that since they haven't figured it out, no one else could possibly have. Such arrogance to believe that they've got it all figured out.
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This is what I came up with for Peter St. Pierre and Steve Player for years 2012-2014 in New Hampshire.
The * next to some entries indicates it appeared their wins were shown twice. I calculated what NH lottery was showing but I believe the wins for those months should be cut in half. It happened in April 2013, and April 2014. Maybe they were giving them tax credit
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Quote: Originally posted by jimjwright on Dec 6, 2014
This is what I came up with for Peter St. Pierre and Steve Player for years 2012-2014 in New Hampshire.
The * next to some entries indicates it appeared their wins were shown twice. I calculated what NH lottery was showing but I believe the wins for those months should be cut in half. It happened in April 2013, and April 2014. Maybe they were giving them tax credit
Date
Pierre St. Pierre
Steve Player
January 2012
$32, 690 (Pick 4)
$0
February 2012
$0
$1,959
March 2012
$2,080
$0
April 2012
$0
$0
May 2012
$3,120
$15,000 (Pick 4)
June 2012
$4,170
$0
July 2012
$0
$2,513
August 2012
$0
$0
September 2012
$0
$1,263
October 2012
$0
$2,796
November 2012
$13,310 (Pick3 & Pick4)
$0
December 2012
$9,560
$0
Total Winnings 2012
$64,930
$23,531
January 2013
$0
$10,000 (Pick 3)
February 2013
$6,240 (Pick 4)
$10,872 (Pick 3)
March 2013
$1,040
$2,980
April 2013
$2,910 *
$1,664 *
May 2013
$0
$1,126
June 2013
$0
$0
July 2013
$27,080 (Pick 4)
$0
August 2013
$5,200
$0
September 2013
$0
$762
October 2013
$0
$7,000 (Pick 3)
November 2013
$3,380
$0
December 2013
$0
$0
Total Winnings 2013
$45,850
$34,404
January 2014
$2,080 (Pick 4)
$0
February 2014
$0
$67,000 (Powerball)
March 2014
$0
$615 (Gimme 5)
April 2014
$0
$3,664 (Gimme 5) *
May 2014
$2,080 (Pick 4)
$40,000 (Pick 3)
June 2014
$0
$966 (Gimme 5)
July 2014
$0
$31,718 (Pick 3 & Gimme 5)
August 2014
$0
$0
September 2014
$0
$890 (Gimme 5)
October 2014
$0
$834 (Gimme 5)
November 2014
$0
$2,252 (MegaMillions & Gimme5)
December 2014
-
-
Total Winnings so far 2014
$4160
$147,939
Jimmy
Very interesting find! OK....sounds like St. Peter was or is going broke based on 2014. You just don't take months off unless you're losing a ton. So much for 70G's. My question is how much are the losses? We'll never know. Granted "Player" hit for 67K but my guess playing all these games, he has to be betting at least 10-15k or more a month to get those wins. He's no $2 bettor.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimjwright on Dec 6, 2014
This is what I came up with for Peter St. Pierre and Steve Player for years 2012-2014 in New Hampshire.
The * next to some entries indicates it appeared their wins were shown twice. I calculated what NH lottery was showing but I believe the wins for those months should be cut in half. It happened in April 2013, and April 2014. Maybe they were giving them tax credit
Date
Pierre St. Pierre
Steve Player
January 2012
$32, 690 (Pick 4)
$0
February 2012
$0
$1,959
March 2012
$2,080
$0
April 2012
$0
$0
May 2012
$3,120
$15,000 (Pick 4)
June 2012
$4,170
$0
July 2012
$0
$2,513
August 2012
$0
$0
September 2012
$0
$1,263
October 2012
$0
$2,796
November 2012
$13,310 (Pick3 & Pick4)
$0
December 2012
$9,560
$0
Total Winnings 2012
$64,930
$23,531
January 2013
$0
$10,000 (Pick 3)
February 2013
$6,240 (Pick 4)
$10,872 (Pick 3)
March 2013
$1,040
$2,980
April 2013
$2,910 *
$1,664 *
May 2013
$0
$1,126
June 2013
$0
$0
July 2013
$27,080 (Pick 4)
$0
August 2013
$5,200
$0
September 2013
$0
$762
October 2013
$0
$7,000 (Pick 3)
November 2013
$3,380
$0
December 2013
$0
$0
Total Winnings 2013
$45,850
$34,404
January 2014
$2,080 (Pick 4)
$0
February 2014
$0
$67,000 (Powerball)
March 2014
$0
$615 (Gimme 5)
April 2014
$0
$3,664 (Gimme 5) *
May 2014
$2,080 (Pick 4)
$40,000 (Pick 3)
June 2014
$0
$966 (Gimme 5)
July 2014
$0
$31,718 (Pick 3 & Gimme 5)
August 2014
$0
$0
September 2014
$0
$890 (Gimme 5)
October 2014
$0
$834 (Gimme 5)
November 2014
$0
$2,252 (MegaMillions & Gimme5)
December 2014
-
-
Total Winnings so far 2014
$4160
$147,939
Jimmy
I have no idea what you're talking about. I'll have to look to see for myself. Shown twice? Cut in half?...You're reading things wrong.
I looked back five years, this was over a year ago, and the tally i got was an average of 70 grand a year JUST FOR PETER, not Steve, so I have no clue why you're mixing steve into this.
You guys are going to need a new barrel because the old one has a hole at the bottom of it.
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Dec 6, 2014
I have no idea what you're talking about. I'll have to look to see for myself. Shown twice? Cut in half?...You're reading things wrong.
I looked back five years, this was over a year ago, and the tally i got was an average of 70 grand a year JUST FOR PETER, not Steve, so I have no clue why you're mixing steve into this.
You guys are going to need a new barrel because the old one has a hole at the bottom of it.
Currently their website only allows you to search years 2012-2014 so I cannot report anything before that time frame.
For April 2013, and April 2014 it appeared to me their website were reporting the same winnings twice for all players not just Peter and Steve. That is why I asterisked those months.
If you search April 2013, you will see the results show Laura Bell won $40,012 on two occasions playing Powerball there is no way that happened. All I am saying is that it appears that for April 2012, and April 2013 the website is returning the winning results twice for every person which is artificially inflating the winnings for those months for all winners not just Peter and Steve.
I made no statement whatsoever about Peter St. Pierre or Steve Player I just listed what is freely available from the nh website.
But I will make this statement, Steve Player sucked for years 2012, and 2013 and is doing well for year 2014. Why the ups and downs? Because he has no system but is simply gambling.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimjwright on Dec 6, 2014
Currently their website only allows you to search years 2012-2014 so I cannot report anything before that time frame.
For April 2013, and April 2014 it appeared to me their website were reporting the same winnings twice for all players not just Peter and Steve. That is why I asterisked those months.
If you search April 2013, you will see the results show Laura Bell won $40,012 on two occasions playing Powerball there is no way that happened. All I am saying is that it appears that for April 2012, and April 2013 the website is returning the winning results twice for every person which is artificially inflating the winnings for those months for all winners not just Peter and Steve.
I made no statement whatsoever about Peter St. Pierre or Steve Player I just listed what is freely available from the nh website.
But I will make this statement, Steve Player sucked for years 2012, and 2013 and is doing well for year 2014. Why the ups and downs? Because he has no system but is simply gambling.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimjwright on Dec 6, 2014
Currently their website only allows you to search years 2012-2014 so I cannot report anything before that time frame.
For April 2013, and April 2014 it appeared to me their website were reporting the same winnings twice for all players not just Peter and Steve. That is why I asterisked those months.
If you search April 2013, you will see the results show Laura Bell won $40,012 on two occasions playing Powerball there is no way that happened. All I am saying is that it appears that for April 2012, and April 2013 the website is returning the winning results twice for every person which is artificially inflating the winnings for those months for all winners not just Peter and Steve.
I made no statement whatsoever about Peter St. Pierre or Steve Player I just listed what is freely available from the nh website.
But I will make this statement, Steve Player sucked for years 2012, and 2013 and is doing well for year 2014. Why the ups and downs? Because he has no system but is simply gambling.
Jimmy
"But I will make this statement, Steve Player sucked for years 2012, and 2013 and is doing well for year 2014. Why the ups and downs? Because he has no system but is simply gambling."
Maybe Steve Playerwasn't playing regularly each month in 2012 and 2013. You CANNOT ASSUME that he was playing regularly, and was losing so much during 2012 & 2013.
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"Maybe Steve Playerwasn't playing regularly each month in 2012 and 2013. You CANNOT ASSUME that he was playing regularly, and was losing so much during 2012 & 2013."
Are you kidding me? Yeah, and I suppose McDonalds took months off from selling burgers because sales were so good. He wins 7 grand in Oct 2013 and then takes 2 months off? Wake up cupcake. He lost! It's all gambling and compulsive gamblers or high stake gamblers don't quit for a month or two and then start playing again. They need action. You want to win big, you have to bet big. If it isn't the lottery it's sports betting or casino action.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimjwright on Dec 6, 2014
Currently their website only allows you to search years 2012-2014 so I cannot report anything before that time frame.
For April 2013, and April 2014 it appeared to me their website were reporting the same winnings twice for all players not just Peter and Steve. That is why I asterisked those months.
If you search April 2013, you will see the results show Laura Bell won $40,012 on two occasions playing Powerball there is no way that happened. All I am saying is that it appears that for April 2012, and April 2013 the website is returning the winning results twice for every person which is artificially inflating the winnings for those months for all winners not just Peter and Steve.
I made no statement whatsoever about Peter St. Pierre or Steve Player I just listed what is freely available from the nh website.
But I will make this statement, Steve Player sucked for years 2012, and 2013 and is doing well for year 2014. Why the ups and downs? Because he has no system but is simply gambling.
Jimmy
But I will make this statement, Steve Player sucked for years 2012, and 2013 and is doing well for year 2014. Why the ups and downs? Because he has no system but is simply gambling.
Even the best systems have their ups and downs, you should know this. You also have to factor in variables we may not be aware of. There could be sickness in the family, or any of a hundred different reasons.
For five and a half years Peter has been doing well and then a drop off. So just ignore the five years of success and dwell on the last two years. Keep digging, you'll eventually need another barrel.