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JohnnyDash

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Feb 24, 2015, 7:13 pm

Hi Admins,

I really enjoy reading LP and have been a long-time lurker. I like to be able to follow gambling discussions from different sites on my RSS Reader, but the RSS Feeds here are the most frustrating of all because instead of feeding newly created threads and their opening post, they feed EVERY post including short replies. So half the feed is 5-letter long posts just saying "Thanks" which makes me end up removing the LP feed from my RSS Reader and I miss out on the discussions here.

Could you please create new RSS Feeds here that only display the Title of New Threads and the full contents of the First Post like the other gambling forums?

That way I can follow the new threads in each Forum. Please make sure you don't cut off the First Post because that is just as frustrating as a feed displaying every post!

Please let me know when you've done this so I can confirm that it's working correctly on my RSS Reader.

I wouldn't want to miss any more discussions here and this will make it A LOT easier to follow the discussions!

Thanks so much!
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Feb 26, 2015, 6:20 pm

You can already do this, you're subscribing to the wrong feed. Subscribe to a forum feed to see a feed of new topics in that forum. Click a forum in the Forums menu and look for the feed link in the yellow area at the bottom.

Also you can subscribe to the active topics feed which basically does the same thing across all forums. Click Active Topics in the Forums menu and look for the feed link at the bottom.

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Feb 26, 2015, 7:21 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Feb 26, 2015
You can already do this, you're subscribing to the wrong feed. Subscribe to a forum feed to see a feed of new topics in that forum. Click a forum in the Forums menu and look for the feed link in the yellow area at the bottom.

Also you can subscribe to the active topics feed which basically does the same thing across all forums. Click Active Topics in the Forums menu and look for the feed link at the bottom.

Thank you for your reply, but neither of the feeds you posted are doing what I mentioned.

Your feeds are displaying the latest posts, instead of the latest threads. There's a huge difference. This is the only Forum I've seen that does that.

The vast majority of forums feed new threads, not new posts, to ensure the feeds don't get cluttered with replies and are only fed new discussion threads.

For example, if you go to the Forum section of Casinomeister (the largest casino forum) and click on their Feeds, you will only see 1 post per thread. Those are the opening posts of each new thread in their Forum. You won't see any replies in their feeds.

This makes it easy to follow the new discussions, instead of the new replies (which might be for older threads).

Could you please add Feeds like the other Forums that only display the latest threads with their opening post?

Also, please make sure it does not cut off the opening posts as that makes the feed useless.

Thanks so much, I really appreciate it.
Todd

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Feb 26, 2015, 7:55 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JohnnyDash on Feb 26, 2015
Thank you for your reply, but neither of the feeds you posted are doing what I mentioned.

Your feeds are displaying the latest posts, instead of the latest threads. There's a huge difference. This is the only Forum I've seen that does that.

The vast majority of forums feed new threads, not new posts, to ensure the feeds don't get cluttered with replies and are only fed new discussion threads.

For example, if you go to the Forum section of Casinomeister (the largest casino forum) and click on their Feeds, you will only see 1 post per thread. Those are the opening posts of each new thread in their Forum. You won't see any replies in their feeds.

This makes it easy to follow the new discussions, instead of the new replies (which might be for older threads).

Could you please add Feeds like the other Forums that only display the latest threads with their opening post?

Also, please make sure it does not cut off the opening posts as that makes the feed useless.

Thanks so much, I really appreciate it.

Well I guess the largest lottery forum does things differently than the largest casino forum. Wouldn't be the first time.

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Feb 26, 2015, 8:07 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Feb 26, 2015
Well I guess the largest lottery forum does things differently than the largest casino forum. Wouldn't be the first time.

It's not just the largest casino site that only displays threads in their RSS Feeds, the largest forums in the world all display only threads in their feeds. There's a reason for that and it's because posts/replies clutter feeds.

In fact, the largest forum software in the world (vBulletin) does this by default, which means all the Forums that use vBulletin are displaying threads in their Feeds, not posts.

Again, that's because a feed cluttered with posts saying "Thanks" or "Great point" isn't very useful, whereas feeds that only display new discussion topics asking poignant questions or initiating debates are much more interesting and useful.

It's OK to want to do things differently if those things that make you different are an improvement upon what others are doing. But I certainly wouldn't recommend doing something less useful just to be different. My humble opinion, of course.

Do you think LotteryPost.com could improve their Feeds and display only the new threads with their opening posts in full? I know that will help get you a lot more traffic from RSS Readers/Lurkers such as myself.

Please let me know and thanks again.
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Mar 2, 2015, 6:26 am

Just wanted to follow up on this. Please let me know. Thank you.
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Quote: Originally posted by JohnnyDash on Feb 26, 2015
It's not just the largest casino site that only displays threads in their RSS Feeds, the largest forums in the world all display only threads in their feeds. There's a reason for that and it's because posts/replies clutter feeds.

In fact, the largest forum software in the world (vBulletin) does this by default, which means all the Forums that use vBulletin are displaying threads in their Feeds, not posts.

Again, that's because a feed cluttered with posts saying "Thanks" or "Great point" isn't very useful, whereas feeds that only display new discussion topics asking poignant questions or initiating debates are much more interesting and useful.

It's OK to want to do things differently if those things that make you different are an improvement upon what others are doing. But I certainly wouldn't recommend doing something less useful just to be different. My humble opinion, of course.

Do you think LotteryPost.com could improve their Feeds and display only the new threads with their opening posts in full? I know that will help get you a lot more traffic from RSS Readers/Lurkers such as myself.

Please let me know and thanks again.

Even if Todd were going to consider your request, CHANGES TAKE TIME !!! Be Patient !!! Todd is very busy managing other functionality of Lottery Post.
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Mar 2, 2015, 1:22 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JohnnyDash on Mar 2, 2015
Just wanted to follow up on this. Please let me know. Thank you.

I will not be changing it. I am happy with the way it works currently. I do not think you've investiagted all the possible feeds, because they do not all operate by showing all the replies. Only subscribing to a particular thread shows all the replies in that thread.

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Mar 3, 2015, 8:58 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Mar 2, 2015
I will not be changing it. I am happy with the way it works currently. I do not think you've investiagted all the possible feeds, because they do not all operate by showing all the replies. Only subscribing to a particular thread shows all the replies in that thread.

Do you use the feeds like some of us users do? Because if you did, then I seriously doubt you'd be "happy" with the way they currently work.

You mentioned there are feeds that don't display all the replies, implying you have feeds that display only the latest threads with their opening posts.

Could you please point me to those feeds as you are correct that I have not been able to find any such feeds on your site, which is why I made my suggestion.

Please let me know. Thank you.
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Mar 3, 2015, 9:46 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JohnnyDash on Feb 24, 2015
Hi Admins,

I really enjoy reading LP and have been a long-time lurker. I like to be able to follow gambling discussions from different sites on my RSS Reader, but the RSS Feeds here are the most frustrating of all because instead of feeding newly created threads and their opening post, they feed EVERY post including short replies. So half the feed is 5-letter long posts just saying "Thanks" which makes me end up removing the LP feed from my RSS Reader and I miss out on the discussions here.

Could you please create new RSS Feeds here that only display the Title of New Threads and the full contents of the First Post like the other gambling forums?

That way I can follow the new threads in each Forum. Please make sure you don't cut off the First Post because that is just as frustrating as a feed displaying every post!

Please let me know when you've done this so I can confirm that it's working correctly on my RSS Reader.

I wouldn't want to miss any more discussions here and this will make it A LOT easier to follow the discussions!

Thanks so much!

JohnnyDash, Try this.

1) Go to the LP home page.

2) Click on Resources in the blue bar. Scroll down to Syndicated RSS 2.0 Feeds.

3) Scroll down for a list of each individual forums. Click on the one you want.

Option 2

1) Go to LP home page.

2) Scroll down. Near the bottom of the page on the far left side it will say:

RSS 2.0 FEEDS

Lottery News

Event Calendar

Latest Forum Topics

Web Site Change Log

? RSS Info, More Feeds

3) Click on the one you want. Say for example, Lottery News. It will list all the thread titles in blue.

4) Click on the desired thread title. It will go to the most recent post / reply. On the very bottom right of the most recent post, you will see a blue arrow pointing up.

5) Click on the blue arrow and it will take you to the first post. Clicking on a blue arrow that is pointing down will take you to the last post on a thread.

Good Luck!!!
JohnnyDash

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Mar 17, 2015, 9:00 pm

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Mar 3, 2015
JohnnyDash, Try this.

1) Go to the LP home page.

2) Click on Resources in the blue bar. Scroll down to Syndicated RSS 2.0 Feeds.

3) Scroll down for a list of each individual forums. Click on the one you want.

Option 2

1) Go to LP home page.

2) Scroll down. Near the bottom of the page on the far left side it will say:

RSS 2.0 FEEDS

Lottery News

Event Calendar

Latest Forum Topics

Web Site Change Log

? RSS Info, More Feeds

3) Click on the one you want. Say for example, Lottery News. It will list all the thread titles in blue.

4) Click on the desired thread title. It will go to the most recent post / reply. On the very bottom right of the most recent post, you will see a blue arrow pointing up.

5) Click on the blue arrow and it will take you to the first post. Clicking on a blue arrow that is pointing down will take you to the last post on a thread.

Good Luck!!!

With the exception of the "Lottery News" feed which isn't based on actual Forum threads from members, all of those RSS options you mentioned from both options are displaying all the LATEST POSTS (new replies), and not the LATEST THREADS (new threads)

Check them yourself. Click on any of the feeds and the feed itself will even tell you the "Reply #" of the respective thread. The feeds are clearly displaying latest posts and not latest threads.

Please let me know when this issue will be fixed. Thank you.
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Mar 18, 2015, 12:27 am

Quote: Originally posted by JohnnyDash on Mar 17, 2015
With the exception of the "Lottery News" feed which isn't based on actual Forum threads from members, all of those RSS options you mentioned from both options are displaying all the LATEST POSTS (new replies), and not the LATEST THREADS (new threads)

Check them yourself. Click on any of the feeds and the feed itself will even tell you the "Reply #" of the respective thread. The feeds are clearly displaying latest posts and not latest threads.

Please let me know when this issue will be fixed. Thank you.

Todd already said, that this "issue" won't be fixed, b/c he doesn't see it as an issue, in the first place. Obviously, other LP members who subscribe to the RSS feeds, are satisfied enough, with the way the feeds currently work. Todd can't please everyone.
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Mar 18, 2015, 8:57 am

Quote: Originally posted by JohnnyDash on Mar 17, 2015
With the exception of the "Lottery News" feed which isn't based on actual Forum threads from members, all of those RSS options you mentioned from both options are displaying all the LATEST POSTS (new replies), and not the LATEST THREADS (new threads)

Check them yourself. Click on any of the feeds and the feed itself will even tell you the "Reply #" of the respective thread. The feeds are clearly displaying latest posts and not latest threads.

Please let me know when this issue will be fixed. Thank you.

A majority of the posts are replies to existing threads, not new posts that start new threads.

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