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There have been a few posts on repeat pairs lately. Thought I would show how I use them.
How I track repeat pairs:
I track by draw breaking the draw down to its three pairs by lowest digit first.
Example: draw is 481—pairs are 14, 18, and 48. Doubles I use only the non-repeat numbers. Example: 177—17.
Each goes in a column, with spaces between. I then use these pairs in my workout. The number you see at the far edge underlined: draws back that it appeared.
Occasionally a draw will not be a repeat based on how I use it. I have found these are most often doubles. BTW, I have the tracking for the entire year. Consistency of new pairs outside the range varied. Some months it was as much as 9, others as few as 2.
I will use December for an example. My track sheet looks like this:
12/1 177 17 6
12/2 133 13 5
12/3 481 14 18 48 3
12/4 434 34 7
12/5 432 23 24 34 1
12/6 676 67 0
12/7 632 23 26 36 2
12/8 135 13 15 35 6
12/9 855 58 0
12/10 016 01 06 16 10
12/11 672 26 27 67 4
12/12 972 27 29 79 1
12/13 076 06 07 67 2
12/14 763 36 37 67 1
12/15 969 69 0
12/16 486 46 48 68 0/13
12/17 286 26 28 68 1
12/18 560 05 06 56 5
12/19 546 45 46 56 1
12/20 841 14 18 48 4
12/21 069 06 09 69 3
12/22 107 01 07 17 9
12/23 897 78 79 89 11
12/24 936 36 39 69 3
12/25 810 01 08 18 5
12/26 551 15 0
12/27 668 68 10
12/28 876 67 68 78 1
12/29 900 09 8
12/30 604 04 06 46 9
12/31 605 05 06 56 1
I use these pairs in my work out sheet which is really just the root sums sheet from LP copy and pasted in ways to meet my needs. My work out method is based on the 434 workout by Blackapple paired with Vtracs indicated by my mirror state. I count back 11 draws and use those pairs indicated. I have used 15 and that was just too many without enough consistency. Have used 7 and found I was missing draws. The difference between 7 draws and 11 draws for December? Within 7-20. Within 11-26. So I would have missed 6 draws by using only 7. Is there a huge difference in combos indicated? Not really. I used to track it but stopped because it wasn’t many.
Will this work for you? I once read in a tutorial (think it was one by tntea) to know your state. Track it, back test it and see.
I’ll throw some stats and you can see what you think. I’d give percentages but my math is not the best and some posters are brutal when there is an error.
Jan- 31 draws: 18 within 7 20 within 11 22 within 15 9 new,8 were doubles
Feb- 28 draws: 17 within 7 23 within 11 0 addt’l within 15 5 new,3 were doubles
Mar- 31 draws: 20 within 7 23 within 11 1 more in 15 7 new, 3 were doubles,1 triple
Apr- 30 draws: 16 within 7 23 within 11 3 more in 15 4 new, 2 were doubles, 1 triple
May-31 draws: 19 within 7 22 within 11 2 more in 15 7 new, 5 were doubles
Jun-30 draws: 17 within 7 24 within 11 4 more in 15 2 new, 1 was double
Jul-31 draws: 20 within 7 26 within 11 2 more in 15 3 new, all were doubles
Aug-31 draws: 15 within 7 20 within 11 4 more in 15 7 new, 4 were doubles
Sep-30 draws: 19 within 7 26 within 11 2 more in 15 2 new, all doubles
Oct-31 draws: 14 within 7 18 within 11 4 more in 15 9 new, 3 were doubles, 1 triple
Nov-30 draws: 17 within 7 20 within 11 1 more in 15 9 new, 7 were doubles
Dec-31 draws: 20 within 7 26 within 11 1 more in 15 4 new, all were doubles
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Quote: Originally posted by Jayhawk58 on Jan 19, 2016
There have been a few posts on repeat pairs lately. Thought I would show how I use them.
How I track repeat pairs:
I track by draw breaking the draw down to its three pairs by lowest digit first.
Example: draw is 481—pairs are 14, 18, and 48. Doubles I use only the non-repeat numbers. Example: 177—17.
Each goes in a column, with spaces between. I then use these pairs in my workout. The number you see at the far edge underlined: draws back that it appeared.
Occasionally a draw will not be a repeat based on how I use it. I have found these are most often doubles. BTW, I have the tracking for the entire year. Consistency of new pairs outside the range varied. Some months it was as much as 9, others as few as 2.
I will use December for an example. My track sheet looks like this:
12/1 177 17 6
12/2 133 13 5
12/3 481 14 18 48 3
12/4 434 34 7
12/5 432 23 24 34 1
12/6 676 67 0
12/7 632 23 26 36 2
12/8 135 13 15 35 6
12/9 855 58 0
12/10 016 01 06 16 10
12/11 672 26 27 67 4
12/12 972 27 29 79 1
12/13 076 06 07 67 2
12/14 763 36 37 67 1
12/15 969 69 0
12/16 486 46 48 68 0/13
12/17 286 26 28 68 1
12/18 560 05 06 56 5
12/19 546 45 46 56 1
12/20 841 14 18 48 4
12/21 069 06 09 69 3
12/22 107 01 07 17 9
12/23 897 78 79 89 11
12/24 936 36 39 69 3
12/25 810 01 08 18 5
12/26 551 15 0
12/27 668 68 10
12/28 876 67 68 78 1
12/29 900 09 8
12/30 604 04 06 46 9
12/31 605 05 06 56 1
I use these pairs in my work out sheet which is really just the root sums sheet from LP copy and pasted in ways to meet my needs. My work out method is based on the 434 workout by Blackapple paired with Vtracs indicated by my mirror state. I count back 11 draws and use those pairs indicated. I have used 15 and that was just too many without enough consistency. Have used 7 and found I was missing draws. The difference between 7 draws and 11 draws for December? Within 7-20. Within 11-26. So I would have missed 6 draws by using only 7. Is there a huge difference in combos indicated? Not really. I used to track it but stopped because it wasn’t many.
Will this work for you? I once read in a tutorial (think it was one by tntea) to know your state. Track it, back test it and see.
I’ll throw some stats and you can see what you think. I’d give percentages but my math is not the best and some posters are brutal when there is an error.
Jan- 31 draws: 18 within 7 20 within 11 22 within 15 9 new,8 were doubles
Feb- 28 draws: 17 within 7 23 within 11 0 addt’l within 15 5 new,3 were doubles
Mar- 31 draws: 20 within 7 23 within 11 1 more in 15 7 new, 3 were doubles,1 triple
Apr- 30 draws: 16 within 7 23 within 11 3 more in 15 4 new, 2 were doubles, 1 triple
May-31 draws: 19 within 7 22 within 11 2 more in 15 7 new, 5 were doubles
Jun-30 draws: 17 within 7 24 within 11 4 more in 15 2 new, 1 was double
Jul-31 draws: 20 within 7 26 within 11 2 more in 15 3 new, all were doubles
Aug-31 draws: 15 within 7 20 within 11 4 more in 15 7 new, 4 were doubles
Sep-30 draws: 19 within 7 26 within 11 2 more in 15 2 new, all doubles
Oct-31 draws: 14 within 7 18 within 11 4 more in 15 9 new, 3 were doubles, 1 triple
Nov-30 draws: 17 within 7 20 within 11 1 more in 15 9 new, 7 were doubles
Dec-31 draws: 20 within 7 26 within 11 1 more in 15 4 new, all were doubles
Clarification Please: What does "18 within 7 ; 20 within 11 ; 22 within 15 ------- 9 new, 8 were doubles" mean ???
What exactly is this information telling me ???
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Quote: Originally posted by Jayhawk58 on Jan 19, 2016
There have been a few posts on repeat pairs lately. Thought I would show how I use them.
How I track repeat pairs:
I track by draw breaking the draw down to its three pairs by lowest digit first.
Example: draw is 481—pairs are 14, 18, and 48. Doubles I use only the non-repeat numbers. Example: 177—17.
Each goes in a column, with spaces between. I then use these pairs in my workout. The number you see at the far edge underlined: draws back that it appeared.
Occasionally a draw will not be a repeat based on how I use it. I have found these are most often doubles. BTW, I have the tracking for the entire year. Consistency of new pairs outside the range varied. Some months it was as much as 9, others as few as 2.
I will use December for an example. My track sheet looks like this:
12/1 177 17 6
12/2 133 13 5
12/3 481 14 18 48 3
12/4 434 34 7
12/5 432 23 24 34 1
12/6 676 67 0
12/7 632 23 26 36 2
12/8 135 13 15 35 6
12/9 855 58 0
12/10 016 01 06 16 10
12/11 672 26 27 67 4
12/12 972 27 29 79 1
12/13 076 06 07 67 2
12/14 763 36 37 67 1
12/15 969 69 0
12/16 486 46 48 68 0/13
12/17 286 26 28 68 1
12/18 560 05 06 56 5
12/19 546 45 46 56 1
12/20 841 14 18 48 4
12/21 069 06 09 69 3
12/22 107 01 07 17 9
12/23 897 78 79 89 11
12/24 936 36 39 69 3
12/25 810 01 08 18 5
12/26 551 15 0
12/27 668 68 10
12/28 876 67 68 78 1
12/29 900 09 8
12/30 604 04 06 46 9
12/31 605 05 06 56 1
I use these pairs in my work out sheet which is really just the root sums sheet from LP copy and pasted in ways to meet my needs. My work out method is based on the 434 workout by Blackapple paired with Vtracs indicated by my mirror state. I count back 11 draws and use those pairs indicated. I have used 15 and that was just too many without enough consistency. Have used 7 and found I was missing draws. The difference between 7 draws and 11 draws for December? Within 7-20. Within 11-26. So I would have missed 6 draws by using only 7. Is there a huge difference in combos indicated? Not really. I used to track it but stopped because it wasn’t many.
Will this work for you? I once read in a tutorial (think it was one by tntea) to know your state. Track it, back test it and see.
I’ll throw some stats and you can see what you think. I’d give percentages but my math is not the best and some posters are brutal when there is an error.
Jan- 31 draws: 18 within 7 20 within 11 22 within 15 9 new,8 were doubles
Feb- 28 draws: 17 within 7 23 within 11 0 addt’l within 15 5 new,3 were doubles
Mar- 31 draws: 20 within 7 23 within 11 1 more in 15 7 new, 3 were doubles,1 triple
Apr- 30 draws: 16 within 7 23 within 11 3 more in 15 4 new, 2 were doubles, 1 triple
May-31 draws: 19 within 7 22 within 11 2 more in 15 7 new, 5 were doubles
Jun-30 draws: 17 within 7 24 within 11 4 more in 15 2 new, 1 was double
Jul-31 draws: 20 within 7 26 within 11 2 more in 15 3 new, all were doubles
Aug-31 draws: 15 within 7 20 within 11 4 more in 15 7 new, 4 were doubles
Sep-30 draws: 19 within 7 26 within 11 2 more in 15 2 new, all doubles
Oct-31 draws: 14 within 7 18 within 11 4 more in 15 9 new, 3 were doubles, 1 triple
Nov-30 draws: 17 within 7 20 within 11 1 more in 15 9 new, 7 were doubles
Dec-31 draws: 20 within 7 26 within 11 1 more in 15 4 new, all were doubles
Nice work!
I'm sitting here listening to Merle Haggard sipping some coffee!
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Quote: Originally posted by destinycreation on Jan 20, 2016
Clarification Please: What does "18 within 7 ; 20 within 11 ; 22 within 15 ------- 9 new, 8 were doubles" mean ???
What exactly is this information telling me ???
These means the number of times a pair repeated in that number of draws. For instance 18 within 7 means that in that time period 18 times the number was within 7 draws. 20 times within 11 draws, 22 within 15 draws. This shows the difference using 7 for your standard of counting back, or 11 as the standard. the 9 new means that is how many it was none of those. The pair was outside that range, ie, new to the count. as I mentioned in the post, generally these are doubles.
Obviously using 11 or 15 as the standard instead of 7 means more combos could be indicated. Also by noting the difference over a larger time period, you can see why I use 11 draws instead of 7. More hits.
Did that help?
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Quote: Originally posted by Jayhawk58 on Jan 20, 2016
These means the number of times a pair repeated in that number of draws. For instance 18 within 7 means that in that time period 18 times the number was within 7 draws. 20 times within 11 draws, 22 within 15 draws. This shows the difference using 7 for your standard of counting back, or 11 as the standard. the 9 new means that is how many it was none of those. The pair was outside that range, ie, new to the count. as I mentioned in the post, generally these are doubles.
Obviously using 11 or 15 as the standard instead of 7 means more combos could be indicated. Also by noting the difference over a larger time period, you can see why I use 11 draws instead of 7. More hits.
Did that help?
What state is this for are using both draws together.
Procrastination Stops Progress ⇒Σ
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This is for Kansas. We have only one draw. Although starting Feb 7 we will have two. Be interesting to see the effect that has.
I tried tracking for another state. I found by keeping eve and mid separate it was similar.