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    Quote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on October 14, 2004



    Ion.

    Thank you for making this program available.

    http://www.saliu.com/free-lotto-lottery.html  (Scroll down to the middle)

    Interesting reading Pick 3:

    http://www.saliu.com/bbs/messages/818.html

    http://www.saliu.com/bbs/messages/928.html

    http://www.saliu.com/Newsgroups.htm

    http://www.saliu.com/STR30.htm

    Thanks,

    Winsum





    Hey Winsum...I take it you are finding this a beneficial program? I've tried Ion's software before and have always found that his IQ is so far out of the stratosphere that I can never understand his software. (I'm no dummy, just that Ion must have an IQ over 200 ) - Anyway, before I spend time trying to understand this program, how about you letting me/us know what about it you have found to be helpful? Thanks

    Badger

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      Badger,

      I just know the basics. 

      My advice is if you want to learn and you have the patience and not get frustrated this is a cool program to experiment with.

      I have read different posts about how frustrating Ion's programs are.  I can tell you honestly that I needed to read and re-read the Tutorials.  You will get that "Ah-Haa" moment when you finally figutre out the basics.  As for the strategies, this may take a little more time.

      Besides it's a Free program. 

      I can offer some help to anyone here who needs it.

      I have each states Pick 3 data files. (Data-3) (Maximum 500 past draws) Some states may have fewer draws.

      Once you understand the "Functions" of this program the next key is to look at your specific states Pick-3 drawings and develop the strategies.

      The beauty of this program is checking your "Strategies" to see how effective they were in the past.  You can see the number of hits, skips, current skip and the median for that particular strategy plus much more.

      To be quite honest , this program needs a Step-by-Step Tutorial.

      In my opinion, the "Strategies" are key. 

      Good Luck!!

      Winsum

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        Ion's Software:

        I have been working with Ion's software for well over 10 years. Over this time the updates have been better and faster. Please remember this is free programs for you to experiment with. I can't begin to tell way back when I started how frustrating this all was. But once again the programs got better and better. If you look at this as a way to look at the pick-3 game in patterns of the daily 3 number not the number itself, you will start to see the patterns forming and then you can start making your strategies based on the patterns of past drawings. Yes the beauty of all of this is you can check on your strategies in past drawings to see if you are getting good at finding patterns in the reports that you made. You need a lot of time, patience, and more time to work with this program.

                                                                        Good luck to all

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          Winsum and Radionics,

          Thanks for the input. My free time is little right now, but that just means it will take me longer to work with the program. I have always respected Ion's mathmatical mind. Unfortunately, such high-IQ personalities often produce frustration from most of us simply because out learning curves are so much greater.

          Badger

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            Posted: October 14, 2004, 8:26 pm - IP Logged

            WINSUM

                    CAN YOU HELP ME FIGURE OUT DELAWARES 3 AND 4 DIGIT?????    LAST NUGT WAS 703 AND DAYTIME WAS 170  ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED  THANLKS  LEESNOOK

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              winsum,I call it program for dummies,anyway I would like to see you enter data for Mass pic 4 if possible and come up with playable numbers and tell me how to play,I mean for one day or longer as I do not see the answer from Ion. Thanks

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                Winsum



                Did you solve the problem with you data3 files?



                Ion....I too thank you...... needed the strategy checker

                first run after some adjustments to filters had 28 sets of numbers with several of the numbers with 2 digits correct.

                Next day it had 14 numbers .... strategy had 6 wins in 100

                days, any one think that I should try for more than that,

                14 to 28 numbers seems to me to be good.



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                  I call it program for dummies,anyway I would like to see you enter data for Mass pic 4 if possible and come up with playable numbers and tell me how to play,I mean for one day or longer as I do not see the answer from Ion. Thanks

                  retxx,

                  What I was thinking about doing is this.  Maybe I will use the Mass Pick 4 and trim the Front 3 and Back 3.  Do you have a preference on Front or Back??

                  I use Versabet34 database for each states Pick3/4 past drawings.

                  Anyone who use Versabet34 knows that there are mistakes in the drawings in the datatbases. 

                  This will be an experiment, so maybe I will use 1000 past draws.

                  Let me know about either using Front or Back for this experiment??

                  Thanks,

                  Winsum

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                    BigJer,

                    The problem was corrected with 000 and 999 using Pick332.

                    Thanks,

                    Winsum

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                      Quote: Originally posted by BigJer on October 15, 2004


                      Winsum

                      Did you solve the problem with you data3 files?

                      Ion....I too thank you...... needed the strategy checker
                      first run after some adjustments to filters had 28 sets of numbers with several of the numbers with 2 digits correct.
                      Next day it had 14 numbers .... strategy had 6 wins in 100
                      days, any one think that I should try for more than that,
                      14 to 28 numbers seems to me to be good.

                      BigJer



                      Bigjer -- Are you talking about 6 straight wins in 100 days? If so, playing say 20 combos a day at 50 cents per would have cost you $100 -- and retuned $1500 a very good run. If you're talking 6 boxed wins in 100 days, you would have only made a profit of $140....that's not much for a lot of work and risk..more like something as a "hobby". So I guess the question is what are you looking to accomplaish? If it's just for fun then the boxed wins are good. If you are trying to find a way to make a little income over the year on the side, then the boxed wins wouldn't help much.

                      What's your goal? Also, could you have afforded to stick with spending about 10 bucks a day on the game for as long as you had to do so in order to get those hits when they happened? If not, then there are too many combinations for the pocketbook.

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                        Whoops ! Make that $1,000 dollars spent if playing 100 days at 20 combos at 50 cents each. I should stop writing posts and trying to calculate in my head before my morning coffee kicks in...sorry 'bout that.

                        So Bigjer, you would have made a profit of $500 over 100 days betting straight. That would be too rich for my tastes. No way I could afford 10 bucks a day. That's the problem with this game. I think most of us have to get a system that makes a profit with 10 combos or less. Very tough to do.

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                          Badger,

                          Depending on the Strategy Set-up for Pick332 used by BigJer you can use the (F4) Function "Check Strategy" in Pick332 to check past drawings. 

                          Below is just a sample strategy using Pennsylvania Pick 3 Evening Drawings only.

                          If you look below I only used 1 "Eliminating Condition" VR1 = 6 Minimum Value




                          * Pick-3 Strategy Checking
                          Date: 10-15-2004
                          *** Strategy Composition ***
                          *** If the MAXIMUM level of a condition is set to 0 ***
                          *** and therefore the condition was disabled ***
                          *** the program sets as defaults very high values ***

                          Minimum


                           


                          Maximum


                           


                          Minimum


                           


                          Maximum


                           


                          Value


                           


                          Value


                           


                          Value


                           


                          Value


                          Draw_#:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                           


                           


                           


                           


                           


                           


                           


                           


                           


                           


                           


                           


                          Tot1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          Rev1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          All1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          Pot1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          Vr_1:


                          6


                          -


                          9999


                          TV_1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          Pr_1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          Syn1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          Bun1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          Any1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          Val1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999


                          Sum1:


                          0


                          -


                          9999

                                  ** Frequency of the Strategy using 100  Drawings **
                             
                             
                            * Times Hit:  16  " 
                             
                            * Skips:    3  4  8  0  5  4  0  1  11  3  3  4  26  4  1 
                            * Sorted Skips:  0  0  1  1  3  3  3  4  4  4  4  5  5  8  11  26 
                            * Median Skip:  4   
                            * Current Skip:  5         

                           

                           



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                            ** Frequency of the Strategy using 100  Drawings **

                            Using the Vr1=6 Strategy:

                            It hit 16 Times in the last 100 draws

                            The current skip is 5 drawings

                            The sorted skips are the same as skips but sorted from low to high.

                            The Median Skip is 4

                            The idea is to play this strategy when the Current Skip is below the Median

                            For example:  If the current skip was 3 and the Median is 5, I would play the combinations generated by this strategy a total of 2 more drawings or if it hit.  If it goes past 5 skips I would NOT play!!  Hope that makes sense!!

                             

                             

                             

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                              Using the "Strategy Check" (F4) in the Pick332 program I can see how efficient this particular Strategy is:

                              If you look at the chart below you notice 745 hit on 10/8/2004 and 092 hit on 10/4/2004.

                               




                              Line


                              Number


                              Number


                              Drawn


                               


                               


                              6


                              745


                              10


                              092


                              15


                              250


                              24


                              219


                              25


                              408


                              31


                              627


                              36


                              856


                              37


                              770


                              39


                              535


                              51


                              482


                              55


                              360


                              59


                              527


                              64


                              009


                              91


                              463


                              96


                              702


                              98


                              666