Jack

Looks like a quilt.

Yep.  I've always been one to worry more about looks than substance.

Good luck back atcha

Jack

Ever since you posted that topic " a strange experience" I have been trying to pick numbers that are probably gonna come up or are "due" to come up. I got two numbers and some numbers that were close on megamillions on tuesday. No luck on the mb though.

Jack,

Exactly what is "this sort of thing" that you're seeing in those charts? My experience has been that if you look long enough at enough numbers, you can find just about anything you want. I'm not pouring cold water on your idea; I just don't see anything that might be useful in predicting numbers. What is it that I'm missing?

aye'

ayenowitall:

If you can't see anything there, then it probably isn't there.  If others do, guess it's just there for them, not you.

J

MMGuy:

Yep.  MB and PB are tough ones.  You ought to be able to get pretty good with the white balls, though, if you work at it.  If you don't, maybe something will be posted yet to help you along.

Hang in there.

Jack

ayenowitall:

I suppose I should explain how I see boundaries on these kinds of issues.  I don't have an investment in anyone seeing things as I do, understanding as I understand them.  This is a mystical forum.  One of the things I enjoy about discussions here is that they frequently involve things I don't understand, don't agree with, or don't care about.  I cull out the ones in the last group, don't read them.  I sometimes read the second group, but don't post on them.  But in the first group I have hopes of hearing ideas I'll find helpful, running my own ideas and observations up on the flagpole to see if anyone salutes. 

For me, there's something fairly important in that set of spreadsheet results above.  It's been directly responsible for my having a number or two more on a ticket than I would have otherwise.  But that's because it's easy for me to see how it could do so.  If you fail to see any use in it, don't use it.  Simple and easy solution.

I live in an area where it's so dry we'd dance in the streets if someone somewhere could  throw water on us.  If it would help, we'd create plans to help give them reason to do it.  But on this one, I'm thinking you don't have enough water to get the job done.

Just my thoughts.

Jack

Rip,

don't be discouraged I do I do see some what of a pattern as you do.

Here in In. on the powerball play slips we can choose as meny numbers as we like and also mark Q.P. and the computer will pick the rest, what i have been doing lately is taking the 5 number drawn ,placing one in each of the play areas and letting the computer pick the, the reason is the pattern I have been seeing where a number from the previous draw has been returning in the next draw.

So far it hasn't returned me any money but I feel it is the easiest way for me to choose my numbers.

Your heading to this topic refered to the magnatism . I do think you half to consider the difficulty of being able to choose 5 or 6 numbers based on magnatism alone.

example: I have 5 grandchildern aging 1 to 10, I can baby sit 1 and control them with no problem, 2 little problem , but all 5 , lord help me they would be out of control, and I would end up in a strait jacket.

I think it is the same with numbers it is basically easy to determine 1 or 2 but all of them based off one system. or one idea. the element of luck is still there.

I guess what I am saying is stay focused on what you are doing, yet realize there is still the luck that plays here also. the magnatism theory of lottery draws with planet and sign positions has so many variables that takes into play that it takes constant watching. It also takes the realization that there are so many things that go on that can and does interrupt the magnetic flow, such as earth quakes or even the launching of a space ship, the force and power does interfer.

years ago I was living in Columbus Ohio, there is a race track there and they had a bet called the twin trifecta, you picked the 3 finishers of one race in exact order it gave you a chance to pick the 3 finishers in the exact order of the second race to get a chance at winning the big pool, if no one hit, it was carried over to the next night, well the pool was up to 86,000.00

the twin trifecta races were races 5 and 7 I studied those 2 races and also the 1st race that day. I made my choices for all 3 races that day and had it down to 4 horse in all 3 races, to box  4 horses in a race cost 24.00

To get 24 chance at the big twin pay off I needed to box the 4 horses in the 5th race 24 times that cost was 576.00 which I didn't have. That is why I looked at the first race, I boxed my 4 horses in the first race at a cost of 24.00.

I hit that race for 1,700.00 now I got the 576.00 needed for race 5

Race 5 came up, I went to the window and boxed my 4 horses 24 times giving me the tickets I was going to need for the 2nd half. AS the post time was coming up  , so was this horrible, horrible rain cloud. Just as the race went off so did the rain come down, a horrible strait down pour, at the front of the pact was all 4 of my horses just pounding the way down the track giving everything they had, as they approached towards the finish line they began to tire. They had beating at that storm breaking wind for the others behind them and of course the others began passing and beating them at the finish line.

two minute after the race the storm cleared, and the sun came out. The 7th race 3 of my horses I had picked came in. I still believe to this day had that storm not come in I would have went home that day 86,000.00 richer.

good luck to you

bless it be , mark

I'm going to take one more shot at this, see if it falls completely flat.  But maybe someone out there will be interested and care to talk about it.  Maybe even see some things in it that I haven't seen.  That's the kind of thing I'd like to see, or, failing that, quit bothering with it.

Think of this as a quilt.  A quilt with numbers on it.  Numbers that communicate the exact same ones as rode around on the very balls that were drawn on Power Ball, 3rd draws of the month since 11/03 on the dates indicated.  All the third draws of the month are shown on those quilted squares.

Now, notice anything about the numbers 9, 10 and 11 here?  You can go back as far as you like and you'll find that a surprising number of 9s, 10s and 11s pop up on the 3rd draw of the month.  I use that as a means of culling, or adding numbers on draws for that time of the month.  If I don't have some other numbers insisting on being on my tickets, I use those to fill gaps.

There are other patterns here, too, as the numbers cycle through.  I also use those, in conjunction with other methods for picking my numbers.

If anyone sees the same patterns and believes there's something worth discussing in it, I'd be glad to have some dialogue about it.  If not, we'll just let this slide off the bottom of the screen.

Jack

Ahhh.  Thanks Mark.

I'm going to think on your post before replying.

Jack

Jack,

I apologize for offending you with my inquiry. I suppose that mystical matters simply don't lend themselves to rational scrutiny. I'll leave this one to you and others who are already believers in draw date magnetism. I'll also be looking for 9, 10, and 11 tomorrow night.

aye'

aye'

No apologies needed, no offense here.  No hits, no runs, no errors.  Hope the trouble you took reading pays off in non-magnetic numbers anytime you play them.

Jack

rip snorter ever read nostradamus,i think he's interesting......

Jack,

One thing you may want to try in your analysis is to remove the Powerball number from the chart.

There are differing opinions on this, but mine is that the Powerball is drawn from a completely separate ball machine, and and completely separate ballset.  Therefore, it shares nothing in common (physically) with the other five numbers, and should not be analyzed together with the five.  To me, including the Powerball in the analysis clouds the picture.

Again, others may not see it that way, but that's my take on it.

Thanks Todd.  A worthy suggestion.  Here's how they look without the Red Balls.

third draws:

9th of the month draws:

Jack

they ought to have winnings if you have two white balls....

as in the powerball drawing......

Long odds, Mike.

Jack

Jack,

The PowerBall numbers came 1-11-35-46-53+29 tonight. (29 reduces to master number 11 and 46 reduces to 10.) Maybe there is something to draw date magnetism for the 9,10, and 11 on the third draw of the month. Good luck on finding a way to harness the power.

aye'

Aye:

Looking pretty good in that way, Aye.  1 slipped up on me entirely this draw, 46 was rejected from my picks because I thought it was too soon to hit... I figured on the next draw.  35 was in the running for a pick but was a tier down from my picks.... missed it, but it got close scrutiny because of a series of hits 11/3/04, 11/27/04, and 12/8/04, then dropped out of sight until 3/16/05.  It hit again 3/26/05, causing it to appear to be on another cycle of 3 intermittent hits.  It's a phenomenon I call 'skippers'.  If you look at the draw charts you'll always see a few numbers that fall into that pattern. 

53 was on my tickets for that and other reasons.  29 was on the tickets, but as a white ball, and for entirely different reasons.

There's no reason for anyone to take all this seriously.  It's just a way of picking numbers that happens to work fairly well for me.  Other people have other methods that work for them, most likely.

Best of luck back atcha.

Jack

For anyone interested, here's what the PB draws look like on the 13 of the month:

And here are the 4th draws of the month for 2004-2005:

Smoke'em if you've got'em.

Jack

Your heading to this topic refered to the magnatism . I do think you half to consider the difficulty of being able to choose 5 or 6 numbers based on magnatism alone.

example: I have 5 grandchildern aging 1 to 10, I can baby sit 1 and control them with no problem, 2 little problem , but all 5 , lord help me they would be out of control, and I would end up in a strait jacket.

I think it is the same with numbers it is basically easy to determine 1 or 2 but all of them based off one system. or one idea. the element of luck is still there.

Mark:

I'm finally getting back to  you.  I appreciate your observations.  I believe there's a lot of truth in what you say, from one perspective.

I suppose where we'd differ is that, for me, the easy route lies with 5 and 6 number draws.  Things happen too quickly on daily draws.  Patterns aren't so obvious on the 3-4 number draws, for me, and they happen so quickly they're hard for me to see except in retrospect. 

But there are so many ways 5 and 6 numbers have to work together to come up with a draw, there are lots of patterns and there's enough time to analyze it.  Just doesn't work for me with fewer numbers.

3-4 numbers have patterns, I'm sure, but they're sleeker, more cunning, wearing a lot more cammy.  All of which puts them out of my league.  At least, for now.

But getting an understanding for what's happening with the larger draws with more numbers is mostly just busywork.  Seeing the patterns is an inevitable byproduct of doing the busywork.

I think it would be interesting to  see how universal the patterns are.  For instance, an MM player who was interested in the potential here could look to see if the 9, 10, and 11 on the 3rd draw of the month holds there, too.  I'm betting it does.  I'm also betting every other pattern I see in PB spills over to all the other lotteries.

But I don't have time to check, at the moment.  Got my hands full with my own lottery.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Jack

Edited in as an afterthought:

I hope I haven't implied I only pick numbers based on this aspect of things.  I look at what numbers have preceded every number on my pick list, all the way back to the beginning of time.  I look at numbers that with hit with each number on my pick list all the way back to the mastadons and guys with too little chin and no forehead.  I look at what I've called 'due' numbers, on the strange experience thread.  I look at what I call 'skippers'.  And I look at one particular other facet of things I'm not telling about at this point in my life.

Jack

Jack, Whew, another great thread, man!  Thank you!  Loving your "quilts". 

Hey, am I seeing what you're seeing ...... numbers and derivatives of numbers hitting in correlation with date numbers?  For instance, I keep noticing 9's and 11's and 1's popping up together.  I wonder if our terrorist attack influenced those numbers, or was that date carrying it's own magnetism prior to that? 

And I see even numbers on even days, such as 2's and 4's, and then 24's and such ........This relationship thing in numbers is a new concept to me, and one I've felt only intuitively, not consciously, for a long time. 

I have also noticed on Cash 5 in Va. where I play, quite often, esp. for a while there, the number of the day's date would religiously pop up nearly every drawing!  Now it's not doing it as often, since I caught on to it!  lol

Also, I feel exactly as you do about 5 and 6 number games, as opposed to the more confusing twice daily draws of pic 3's and 4's, which I'm totally no good at!  5 and 6 games "speak" to me somehow, and have a larger, slower organization ..... you explained it really well.  Maybe, back to that music vibration thing, the higher notes are more easily heard, such as pic 3's, but the lower notes travel further, 6 number combinations ..... like the way elephants stomp the ground to send messages to other herds far away, using the lower frequencies to travel underground, long distances.  I think the number vibrations are just the same way.  And b/c of larger jackpots on 5 and 6 numbers, there is a larger, longer, deepr build up of energy?

LuckyFox

I wonder if our terrorist attack influenced those numbers, or was that date carrying it's own magnetism prior to that? 

Maybe both.  Maybe neither.  It's intriguing, anyway.

Welcome back LFT.

Jack

Glad to be back!  Missed you guys!!

LF

Here's a combined MMPB chart of recent drawings on the 15th of the month.  MM blue, PB yellow.

PB only draws on the 16th:

18, 25, 27, 41, 39,  20, all hitting at least twice in 5 draws on that date probably doesn't have any bearing on how numbers might be attracted to the 16th of the month, but it certainly makes for an interesting coincidence.  Particularly since those are the only 5 draws on that date during that time period on PB.

The combined numbers from MM and PB seem less coincidental, more incomprehensible in terms of seeing a pattern there, if you get my meaning.  The various changes in color coding for the same numbers are only half out of neglect, the other half being deliberate.  There's no reason to make understanding what I'm saying any easier than it is, thinks I, for those who would happily glean uses for it (if it had any, which it certainly doesn't), and carrying it away to the PM huddles to kick it around in private.

Jack

You always make me have a good laugh, Jack, and keep this thing in perspective!  ha!  Thanks for working up the numbers for mega on the 15th.  I'm gonna go buy some tickets in a few hours!  :)  Wish me luck!  I'm going to base at least one ticket on this chart just for fun, if nothing else!

LuckyFox

Sort of interesting:

But maybe it's just that time of the month: