When I play keno, I only play 3 numbers, I've won much more playing just 3 numbers than playing 5 or 7 or the almost impossible 10 numbers.  I look at it, as not much different than p/3, except the odds are much better.  If your any good playing p/3, you just might be great playing keno. 

Just imagine your playing p/3, and instead of 1/1000 your playing 1/80.  What possible system or method do you think, you would profit most, by using?

Spot On with the odds-

Do you play live keno parlor, video keno or state run reno games?

How do you usually slect your pick 3 numbers ???

As you are actively keno experienced, check out my post in the keno secrets thread, be interested in your opinion-

Best Wishes for continued success.

EddessaKnight

I play video keno The wife and I play every day.  And have for the last 5 years.  I've always wondered why some of the tips used playing p/3 couldn't be used when playing keno. 

When I play, I keep close attention to a small segment of screen and sort of track no more than 10 numbers.  It might be just one line or a box and watch how they hit.  What goes around comes around.  Sometimes I use a mirror number, or plus and minus.  You can also divide the screen into 4 sections and watch to movement of numbers.  At times the screen might be balance with 5 numbers in each section, but for the most part, theres a movement like:  from upper left to lower right and then moves, sort of a rhythm.  I keep a eye on patterns or the lack, can be a great help.

Keno is sort of our "bread and butter."  We never play for a jackpot, we always cashout our wins, and only play with the casinos money.  There are about 12 casinos within 30 minutes of our house, and all of them give free comps.

Hey I think you are righjt the Odds are better. If a person can't pick 6 digits in  Mega lottery how can they pick 6 digit for Keno? I agree 3 numbers are easier.

It's not necessarily that the odds are better, but the payout percentages. The payout percentages on a video Keno machine in a private casino are generally set at about 90%, whereas the payout percentage of a Pick 3 in a state lottery are about 50%.

gl

j

Thanks, good points John,

Aadditionally in a live Keno Parlor instead of playing against multiple lottery machines, those reasonably close to a casino, the live Keno ball game with it's visible single machine ball operation is really a better choice with  payouts & especially for system & past performance players. Additionally, the  player can usually request a computer journal print out of up to 1000 past games listing the number outcomes in their authentic order.

For those who're unaware of my previous posts on the subject.....

Government entities that offer Keno-type games generally have payout percentages in line with their other offerings - about 50%.

Live games at casinos, whether bouncing ball or random number generator powered, generally have payout percentages of around 70%-75%. This is because profits at casinos are generally computed as dollars generated per square foot, and live Keno games take up a lot of space, not to mention the number of employees necessary to operate the game. Live Keno is generally regarded as one of the worst bets in any casino.

Video Keno is on a par with slot machines - small footprint, no employees needed, low maintanance, and can therefore offer higher payout percentages. But what you can't do on a video Keno machine that you can do in a good live game is play the more exotic bets that aficionados of live Keno are familiar with - way tickets, edge games, high-low, even-odd, left-right, catch-alls and more. Besides, the keno lounge is a good place to just sit and relax.

gl

j

I wish we had live keno, instead of video.  The question I have is, what method would you use to pick your numbers, like you were playing p/3?  The machine kicks out 20 numbers, would you take the sum of the 20 numbers, or high-low, even-odd, hot or cold and etc.  I wish I chart the numbers, I don't think they would allow that in a casino. 

Thanks for all your input.

To address the last issue first, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to track results in most casinos. A few casinos offer histories of past draws and there's even a site which offers live Keno results as they occur plus past-draw histories for some of the larger casinos with live Keno. I've never used that method, though. Search through LP for ideas - thay're there.....

http://ww2.kenousa.com/index_kenousa.asp

I've always wanted to do sum and position charts for Keno similar to what I have on my web site for various lotteries, but it would be a rather large undertaking given the math involved. Sums of the 20 drawn numbers can range from 210 to 1410, with the midpoint at 810. With 3,535,316,142,212,174,320 different possibilities in a 20/80 matrix, that's a lot of math. I just haven't had enough time to tackle that yet.

gl

j.

To bad you couldn't have someone on the other end of a cell phone,  to run the numbers on a computer.

Quote: Originally posted by eddessaknight on August 20, 2009

Hey gsc5, et al- Whuile this is not exactly pic 3 it involves a 3 number combo for Vieothat you might want to check out & a winner that is not in any keno book. Short Successful $$$ Signature Strategy: For a out of the box fun & potential profit game plan for live parlor or Video Keno: Checking past games live or VK, observe when any two numbers of of the 84-24-35 group occur simultaneously in the same game.; then play missing number from to 3 or 5 times. Ex #84 & 24 hit in the current game, we then play the missing #35 for 3/5X. Simple & Straightforward, not each & every time mind you but see how often it hits above the expected odds? Last time at the elegant M Casino I hit 5X on VK within the hour.. No Hocus Pocus, check it out for yourself ! Any questions? Let us know your testing or play results-   Peace & Prosperity Wishes, EddessaKnight

Thanks I'll give it a shot.

in my country KENO GAME.. have like 3 years and are a lot of winners of 9 8 7... numbers but never..no body as won WHIT.. 10 numbers.. that mean nobody as won the KENO GAME IN THIS COUNTY NEVER THE JACKPOT.... .so before the keno 10 numbers pay off are.. the 160,000 usd.. but a month ago.. the lottery directos change the pay off .. from 160,000 to $800,000 i think this pay off are the HIGEST keno pay off. in the world... 800,000 usd for a MATH 10.. numbers . maybe do that.. for have more.. CUSTOMERS..for keno game.. i dont know but keno odds are too high.. some body know a .. system that can work. for hit 10..game 1 time.. .. a good system.. ???????????  i ve read some keno system in internet.. and one of the more played is play 10 numbers from the previus draw result.. almost.... in every game more of 3 or4 numbers from previus drawrs appears.. and some times 10 NUMBERS APPEARS.. but is strage maybe 5 or 8 times per year....

Good to see your reply PiraX,

In Las Vegas we have a network of casinos owned & operated by Station Casinos that have live brick & motar as well as Video keno games. Sunset Station is on the internet with live reults plus 1000 past games' outcome.

I personally know of at least one instance when a local player hit for 10 out of 10 for $1 million dollars on a live single machine at Texas Station on March 3, 2003 with these numbers:

# 1-9-10-12-20-31-36-61-66-80

On another occasion , know of another old time local player won $30,000  (confirmed) on a single spot #12 at the Boulder Casino, oh , although that's another story, it can validated with the Boulder Keno manager.

Bye the bye, you can find the Station Casinos addy and access same on line.

Good Luck following the little white bouncing ball,

EddessaKnight

the KENO ODSS are to high.. i think because the LOCAL loto of my country are just a 6/38 for 2,760,681

of ODDS....

and keno are to hige like  8 xxx xxx millons..  of odds but i dont know why maybe whit a god system keno are more easy to win.. just focus in 20 numbers and try to.. make a system whit this 20 numbers..  i dont know what users have experience in KENO???? another is play adjacents numbers.. of previs draws.  tha happens 15 or 21 time. per year..

i dont know much.. of keno

One of the few casinos anywhere which allow this large of a payout on Keno. Most casinos have a per-game aggregate payout limit ranging from $50,000 to $500,000. Some casinos offer 20-Spot games with a million-dollar payout but the payout percentages, for the most part, are between 40 and 50 percent - terrible bets. 

$30,000 payout on a 1-Spot game meant that the bet was $10,000.

Odds of hitting 10 of 20 on an 80-number draw are 1::8,911,711.18.

gl

j

that are the game of my country.. are not a casino..or a computer game a are a NORMAL LOTERY KENO GAME.. 20 BALLS ARE.. EXTRATED FROM 80. to win you need hit 10 of the 20..

or 9 8 7 6 5....

usersss. what software is posible use for work whit this???

30,000 payout on a 1-Spot game meant that the bet was $10,000."

For those who are interested, this is correct and varifiable ny calling Boulder Station Casino in Las Vegas and checking with Keno Parlor mgr or sup BUT what they won't tell you is HOW the old fella wagering chocolate chips come to hit #12 one spot!!!

Obviously, it can be done

EddessaKnight

POWER PLAY POSITION ON 20/80 KENO LIVE OR VIDEO KENO

Observe when the Power number 22 hits in the same game with #31 this combination is highly likey to spawn =  #39 (following 3/4 games)

Don't risk a penny, just back test on previous keno results & check how often this occurs, not each and every time, mind you, but still above the odds!

There is nothing in the Universe but mathematical points of force. Vibration is fundamental Nothing is exempt from this law. It is universal therefore applicable to every class of phenomena on the globe."

  ~Michael Faraday

Have fun, remember nothing is random,

EddessaKnight

Odds of hitting 10 of 10 in a 20/80 matrix are 1::8,911,711.18.

gl

j

Appreciate the acknowlegement & response John,

Of course, by conventional math these odds are accurate but the fun trial concept I listed above is intended to project above standard expectaion.

And if out of the box solutions to beat the odds, seem interesting, it's  easy to verify by simply back checking against past performances & see !

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy"

Hamlet, Act I, scene v

A Way to Anticipate the liitle white bouncing ball,

EddessaKnight

I will check it out! Thanks~

Hi Marcie, John, et al good luck with these special POWER NUMBERS combination.

If keno testers would kindly post their results here (the good , the bad & the ugly ) I will be happy to share more MASTER NUMBERS for further no risk evaluation.

Thanks in advance, let me know-

Helping to predict where the little white ball will land-

EddessaKnight

Yes eddessa. You seem to be correct in your observation.  The 39 does pop up a few games after 22 and 31 come out on the same line (at least in NY Keno)

So.

1) What are you suppose to do with this info?  It's only accurately predicting one number

2) Why do you think this occurs in the first place so consistently?

Greetings DawnandDirty,

Thanks for the respons and sincere interest..

While these projections are not an arm lock they will occur above the odds anytime in a fair game. Mind you I say fair because of the Modus Operandi of many state keno games, like lotteries, intentions are to interrupt sequential ball outcomes by running an ostensible ‘test’ game between drawing thus affecting last drawn numbers –this is why I prefer live Keno parlor gaming or Video Keno.

This concept of number vibrations is rooted the Greece’s Classic age of philosopher. i.e. Pythagoras , the father of numbers and his theory on the harmony of numbers. In brief, numbers are like musical notes influence each other and thus become predictable. You can research this non-hocus pocus concept on the net

OK, I promised another trajectory and here it is Master number 22 when appearing with #35 predicts #41  (3-5 games)

And 3-1 is not a bad payoff, read my previous posts on this thread about my other number predictions plus a local old timer who hit for $30,000 (verified) on a one spot #12.

Hope you learn and earn. I am not a guru, do not sell anything and because of biz cannot be internet on daily basis. These sharing are pro bono.

Now ask yourself who is going to show you how to win any game consistently??? The most you expect are quoation of standard odds which say you are playing a game that is a losing proposition and aye accurate it is - that why I justify out of the box solutions.

There is nothing in the Universe but mathematical points of force. Vibration is fundamental Nothing is exempt from this law. It is universal therefore applicable to every class of phenomena on the globe."

 ~Michael Faraday

Let me know & Give my regards to Broadway......

Projecting the liitle white ball

EddessaKnight

$30,000 for hitting one number?  Where did the old timer play?  I'm on my way!

In NY Keno parlors that pays $2. Why....you would need to get 5 out of 5 to earn $300 in NY...which is what I am trying to develop a "trap formula" for.

I've read much about number vibration, musical notes relations theory etc...

It all leads (or should lead to ) PREDICTABLE GAPS. These gaps occur in relation to the particular seed used in that particular draw.

These GAP PATTERNS are there right in front of my face..but so far my research has not shown me how to exploit them.  I will not give up.

While I'm at it, heres my little observation.  Take the first 2 numbers drawn (in any standard 20 number drawn Keno game) and apply the following two formulas:

1) (X2) (X2)

2) (X2) (X2-1)

For example.  If the first 2 numbers drawn are 2 and 13. The formulas would produce:

4 - 26

4 - 25

8 out of ten times, these numbers come up within the next couple of draws.

Problem is, in NY, this only gets you a lousy $10!

I am working on a formula for more than 2 numbers

"$30,000 for hitting one number?  Where did the old timer play?  I'm on my way!" ~DD

The aforementioned old timer gent, a veteran and with name was playing at a popular local property:

'The Boulder Staition Casino'. As a regular he was well known when he wagered a couple chocolates (brown $5,000 chips) on #12 and hit two times consecutively. He required permisson from mgt to make a wager of this size and recieved it. This is back 7/8 years now but I perfsonally confirmed the story with the keno parlor mgr. You can call them direct but tghey won't reavl name but will verify for the non-believers. It really should be in Robert Ripley's 'Belive It Or Not'. As I gather from other players he used an occurrance factor in a continuing stream of numbers, etc. totally unrelated to the vibration theory. There are many roads that lead to Rome!

Aye, $10,000 is a lot of money on a one spot - but do you he was gambling ??? The late Segrams Chairman  Bronfman of Seagram was quoted:

 "It takes a lot of work to make $110 from $100 but to make $110 Million from $100 Million is inevitable!"

Think about it....

No seeds in live keno and no rain in Nevada LOL 

Gottaaa Run >>>>>

Appreciate your contributions-

Later

EddessaKnight

Hey Downand Dirty, et al-

Appreciate your sharing this contribution with is, wish others readers would do same....

Did some mild testing at the M Casino during their Christopher Columbus Italian/American celebration last weekend. Played Video Keno as waiting for number pre-screening takes too long for active live keno action.

First a couple observations & questions on procedure:

1. Obviously protocol may require waiting until the first two numbers are low enough (for doubling) to qualify for play

2. Does the formula allow for play on all three potential numbers at once?  I can see giving the select # some wiggle room (w/-1 factor)

3.Did not experience 8 out of 10 hit rate for a two spot or do you mean 1 out of two numbers will show 8 out of 10 games?

  I do empathize with you about the low payout of $10. Of course, if you are confident on the statistic occurrence rate then you should be able wager higher amounts.

Bye the Bye, my sources tell me that Atlantic City payouts are the highest in the region-

~

If you like this style of keno game plan, here is another for consideration:

*1-2-3-4- TANGO

1.  First watch for the occurrence of the #1-2-4 or 4 to hit.

2.  Play the hit number for 2X only.

3.  If hit hits on first or second game, the session is over.

4.  Start again but do not play last winning or losing number.

5.  Wait at least three games before wagering on same #

6.  Can use power progression, increasing bet size on next selection to make up for loses & finish w/profit. Determine bank roll based on progression do not go beyond the 2X stop loss. Alos depending on BR set a stop win $$$ goal.

7.  Optionally player can choose to play more than one number at a time on separate betting slips.

*Other than being a simple straightforward mechanical game plan, no special claims are being made outside the conventional expectations.

 "Sinon Oscillas Noli Tinitinari" 

Let me know if you find this useful, I will be on a trip soon for about a week and perhaps can share some more out of the box power numbers strategies with those willing to report on their fair testing & evaluation.

Did you get a chance to see how well the new power number #41 occurs with the 22 & 35 ???

Good Luck All,

EddessaKnight

   " If you Don't swing don't Ring ! "

Quote: Originally posted by eddessaknight on October 19, 2009

Hey Downand Dirty, et al-

Appreciate your sharing this contribution with is, wish others readers would do same....

Did some mild testing at the M Casino during their Christopher Columbus Italian/American celebration last weekend. Played Video Keno as waiting for number pre-screening takes too long for active live keno action.

First a couple observations & questions on procedure:

1. Obviously protocol may require waiting until the first two numbers are low enough (for doubling) to qualify for play

2. Does the formula allow for play on all three potential numbers at once?  I can see giving the select # some wiggle room (w/-1 factor)

3.Did not experience 8 out of 10 hit rate for a two spot or do you mean 1 out of two numbers will show 8 out of 10 games?

  I do empathize with you about the low payout of $10. Of course, if you are confident on the statistic occurrence rate then you should be able wager higher amounts.

Bye the Bye, my sources tell me that Atlantic City payouts are the highest in the region-

~

If you like this style of keno game plan, here is another for consideration:

 

*1-2-3-4- TANGO

1.  First watch for the occurrence of the #1-2-4 or 4 to hit.

2.  Play the hit number for 2X only.

3.  If hit hits on first or second game, the session is over.

4.  Start again but do not play last winning or losing number.

5.  Wait at least three games before wagering on same #

6.  Can use power progression, increasing bet size on next selection to make up for loses & finish w/profit. Determine bank roll based on progression do not go beyond the 2X stop loss. Alos depending on BR set a stop win $$$ goal.

7.  Optionally player can choose to play more than one number at a time on separate betting slips.

*Other than being a simple straightforward mechanical game plan, no special claims are being made outside the conventional expectations.

 

 "Sinon Oscillas Noli Tinitinari" 

Let me know if you find this useful, I will be on a trip soon for about a week and perhaps can share some more out of the box power numbers strategies with those willing to report on their fair testing & evaluation.

Did you get a chance to see how well the new power number #41 occurs with the 22 & 35 ???

 

Good Luck All,

EddessaKnight

   " If you Don't swing don't Ring ! "

No. Both numbers will come out within 10 draws or less. Usually within the next couple of draws as a matter of fact. This works in NY all the time.  I backtest out the wazoo.

Take the first two numbers drawn and apply:

Either (X2) (X2)

or

          (X2) (X2-1)

For the third number, a number of factors such as (X2) (X2+1) (X2-1) usually work.

I am more interested in working on a 5 of 5 formula.  2 Spots is so nickel and dime..even with the bonus multiplier NY offers.  It all gets costly.

I have many other trap formulas I am working on. Such as (-3) (-3) (-3)  or (-2) (-2) (-2) will usually work if applied to the right three consecutive numbers

Hey D & D

"Both numbers will come out within 10 draws or less"

Do you chase these numbers with a wagering progression? Non-sarcastiscally speaking if you don't see your numbers in 10 draws, it's almost a 99.999% trap formula to hit by the 20th draw.

 "5 of 5 formula.  2 Spots is so nickel and dime.."

Don't blame you "5" s are great obviously less predictable (frequency) but the higher payoffs make them most desirable, hope you can break that code. Meantime remember that old fella scored big time on a one spot because he had a virtual arm lock on the outcome.

Some people predict the future by creating it!

Keep Asking 'How Can I' Until Your Mind Supplies The Answer-

Or we can pray to John's Blessed Saint Leibowitz, who keep 'em dreamin' down there ...       (just kidding) 

Aside of the slight hearted satire,  if I can help further, just let me know >>>>

Keep me posted -

Best of Best Good Luck Wishes,

EddessaKnight

I put before you more special numbers around 360, for your consideration

Why are there 360 degrees in a circle?

360 divisible by 18 or 40

Now just for fun, back check keno past performances and see how often #18 & #40 appear together, proceed or follow each other.

Above the odds, what do you think?

May Fortuna Smile Upon You-

EddessaKnight

I concur with gsc5 expectation question-

May Fortuna Smile Upon You

EddessaKnight

If I may throw in 2 cents worth I play these same 4 numbers here in Mass keno 20/80 regularly and seem to hit fairly well 2of4 and 3of4. try these and let me know in your state. 27-44-56-62. good luck.

Hey retxx,

Thanks for sharing those numbers, let us know how you are doing so far....

Short Successful $$$ Signature Strategy:
For a out of the box fun & potential profit game plan for live parlor or Video Keno:

Checking past games live or VK, observe when any two numbers of of the 84-24-35 group occur simultaneously in the same game.; then play missing number from to 3 or 5 times. Ex #84 & 24 hit in the current game, we then play the missing #35 for 3/5X.

Simple & Straightforward, not each & every time mind you but see how often it hits above the expected odds?

May Fortuna Smile Upon You=

EddessaKnight

I found the perfect system when playing keno (I thought).  When ever I play, I play no more then 20 games, its easier for me to keep track. 

and I only play with comps, never my money.  So I don't win a lot, but I don't lose either.  

I sometimes play just 2 spots, and I notice, its hard not to get a hit or two.  I started playing with the idea, what would happen if you put a max 

bet on a 2 spot.  Play $10. and win $90.  Play $20. and win $180.  And if you hit the power ball, it was 4 times the amount.   How could I lose?

I tested this idea for several weeks, both at the casino and on the computer.  I did this by playing 20 games at 50. cents or at 25 cents.  I never

lost.  I would play for hours on my computer, and never lost.

You know the odds.  1 in 4 for one spot, 1 in 16 for two spot.  Not bad.

To make a long story short, I took $200. and was going to play 20 games at $10. a play.

For the first time I've ever played, I never his a single spot, and lost it all.  I couldn't believe it.  Talk about sick, I don't know how to explain it.

Spot On gsc5 or as the waiter says in resturants after taking "that' s a good choice"  One spot = 3X, not bad at all if you are nott hooked on long shots.

In the El Cortez Casino,  Vegas use to have a 2 spot ticket for $1.15 that pays $15.00  and in Atlantic City play a 2 spot for $1.25  pays $18.00 consider @ $25.00 = $360per game. If your own working numbers & get a win in 5 or 6 games will yield approx net $210 -$225, on average, just do the simple arthimetic. Small risk small reward big risk big reward - makes it all worthwile.

The point here is to play your best predictable associated numbers for maximum that your bank roll will support & mot minimum. Needless to say this wagering strategy is only for tose who have done their home work & have confidence in their 1 or 2 spot - can alway start at the $5 level and work up.

SELECTION TIP:                                                                                                                                                  Each player is different and track each machine has it's favorite out comes, of course, still L@@K at my previous #18-40 combo or when #2 hits, how often #18-19 follows, not each & everytime mind you but then all regulars have their fav associated numbers.

"Associated numbers are like people. Find the relationships."

Thanks to serious players for their kind consideratio.

Good Weekend Wishes,

EddessaKnight

Hi EddessaKnight,

Just wondering where you get the 84 (84-24-35)? 

The USA version of Keno (live and video) is a game of 80 numbers (from 1 to 80), right?

Let me know. Thanks!

Ble$$ing$

Hello Harve$t Moon-

Thanks for your interest and for catching that typo error and sincerley hope it didn't cause any inadvertent confusion.

It should read 80-24-35

These are associated numbers that I find that work in live & Video keno.

Don't risk anything very simply back test against previous gamew results and see how often this occurs above the odds.

On my previous power number post: observe when the Power number #22 hits in the same game with #31 this combination is highly likey to spawn =  #39 (following 3 to 5 games)

‘Yes eddessa. You seem to be correct in your observation.  The 39 does pop up a few games after 22 and 31 come out on the same line (at least in NY Keno)” ~DownandDirty

Again you are welcomed to check out the actual hit occurrences with no risk back testing

Thank you in advance for posting your actual testing results on this thread.

Good Weekend Blessing s for Peace & Prosperity,

EddessaKnight