Hi Bill here, From Michigan and I have just joined as a new member, And would like to know what system do you think works the best for 3 digit and 4 digit ?  oh yes it would really help if you use it in Michigan.  Thanks...

Well that would depend on how much money your willing too spend and whether your looking for a paper\pencil



strategy or lottery software.

Quick pick

If your lazy or don't have any skill at picking numbers then Quick-Picks would be a good choice.

How can one be skillful at picking random numbers? You have yet to prove your skill lottowiz.

Mr.Covenant we have gone down this road before and as long as your mind is stuck in the Middle Ages where anything that is not possible in your eyes is "Blaspemy" there's no reason for me too discuss this with you.Furthermore you don't pay me when I hit the numbers the State Lottery does so I have nothing too prove to you.Talking too you is like trying too convince Castro Communism is dead and a Democratic Government is possible,you won't accept the fact that it's possible too achieve an advantage over the odds,even if the proof bit you in the A**.I won money from selecting my own numbers using systems and software many times,in fact I Hit the Pick-3 two days ago using MaxHitPro by selecting 6 numbers



and generating 20 combinations.A member of my Lottery Group won $1600 in 3 days using an Excel program from Everett-EBusiness of The Lottery Connection website.



So what kind of proof do you want? Posting numbers on this site? "FORGET IT" I'm not sharing my numbers with you or anybody else you continue playing your quick-picks and I'll keep "WINNING" using my dumb SYSTEMS and



SOFTWARE.

("Blasphemy")sorry for the mispelling.And one final comment for you Mr.Convenant why do I have too prove myself if your never gonna believe otherwise?Your Brainwashed into thinking nothing works except buying quick-picks,I never won anything using quick-picks but ever since I started picking my own numbers I've done quite well for myself.Are you trying too convince me that what I'm doing doesn't work? if so that is stupid



that's like me telling you too use a shoe to put a nail in the wall when a hammer does a better job.I use what



works best for me and in this case it's systems & software as opposed to quick-picks.I really don't understand what your trying to PROVE here because none of it makes sense too me.If I'm winning using these methods more than once then obviously I'm doing something right.Quick-Picks win once every Blue Moon depending on the player because Luck is definitely involved when buying quick-picks,but I win more often than that using skill.

savelot,

my advice: 

1)  buy three (or four) sets of 10 ping pong balls = price:  $5.00

2)  buy a black magic marker = price:  $1.00

3)  steal three (or four) 5 gallon empty water bottles from your neighbors = price:  $0

4)  mark each set of ping pong balls with # 0 - 9

5)  place each set of balls in each set of the empty water bottles

6)  shake each water bottle and draw one ball

7)  repeat # 6 for the remaining 2 or 3 bottles

8)  use the #s that come out as your pick

The system above is the cheapest and is just as goods as the ones sold anywhere in the internet.

So how does these programs work? People forget that the numbers come from balls bouncing around in a container. Does your program calculate the trajectories of all the balls? Does it calculate air pressure, temperture, humidity, speed, direction of rotation? Does it take into account the different sets of balls that are used? Does it take into account the different containers that are used. How long does it take to establish a pattern? 1 draw, 5 draws, 100 draws? What happens if they switch balls?

Mr.Covenant were you born a stubborn person? first of all the fact that the numbers come from a machine that bounces the balls around and calculating there trajectories,humidity,temperature,air pressure,distance or different ball sets and containers

or whether they switch balls has nothing too do with using Lottery Software or Systems.None of this information is used or programmed into the software and seeing as how you have no EXPERIENCE what so ever in using these tools you wouldn't understand the concepts involved.Now too answer your question about draw histories used it depends on your analysis and the game your playing.In the Pick-3/4 games short term trends you would use 7-14 draws long term trends you would use 20-40 draws.I've never used any of the information you mentioned in deciding what numbers too wheel when using systems or software.None of that stuff matters the only thing that is used is Statistical Probability of the Numbers.All of the numbers can't be drawn at the same time otherwise it would be called a pick-36 game instead of a pick-5 game.So if only 5 numbers are drawn from 36 than you just select a group of numbers that are most likely too be drawn.An ideal amount would be

anywhere from 10-16 in a Pick 5 game,this increases your chances of trapping the winning numbers.Then you Wheel your numbers and apply filters too reduce the combo's to a reasonable playing level.It's that simple

and once you become SKILLED at selecting numbers you increase your consistancy at hitting 3,4 or 5 numbers.

Now I will agree with you that the chance of just picking the EXACT 5 numbers that will be drawn is nearly IMPOSSIBLE no matter what you use,your better off

using quick-picks and hoping that Lady Luck is on your side.But if you use a strategy that involves selecting MORE than just 5 numbers then you stand a better chance of winning something.

I just need a simple answer to this one. Do you understand Cause and Effect? The effect would be the number sets of the drawings forming patterns and trends. This effect must have a Cause. So, what causes this Effect?

Well that's quite simple really,you see Thomas when random numbers repeat themselves draw after draw for a

long period of time they start forming biases and noticeable patterns.For example let's say FL just started a Lottery game and the first draw was this weekend I wouldn't be able too use any of my systems or software.Now patterns would start too develop after 52 draws then I would start too see numbers repeating,skipping 2 draws and hitting again a number that hasn't been drawn in 2 or 3 weeks (3) numbers drawn in the previous draw re-appear 1 or 2 draws later.

I could go on and on with the many different patterns trends and biases that would occurr.Now the fact that the Florida lottery has been around since 1988 which gives us 15 yrs of numbers being drawn over and over again you will have a MULTITUDE of patterns that exist.

Simply because the numbers have been recycled so much since the very first drawing in 1988.In the first week of a new Lottery game you won't notice any of this stuff

but after enough drawings the numbers start repeating among other things.I mean if the Lottery is so Random then how come when numbers are drawn instead of an entirely new set of numbers coming up in the next draw

(because remember every number has the same chance of hitting so technically they should all take turns being drawn)you very often will get 1 or 2 numbers repeating from the last draw or a number that hit 2 draws ago hitting that day.When I first started learning about number selection I use too think that since the numbers are random that a new set should come up for example

let's say the numbers 01,02,15,23,45,53 hit last week

I should be able too eliminate these 6 from my selections plus assume that 3,16,22 or 24,46 or 52 would be next in line too hit because these numbers come after or before the numbers that were drawn.Well what would happen is this 1 and 23 would repeat and the numbers 50,42,17 or 5 would come up throwing me for a loop as too what just happened especially if 50 and 42 just hit 2 draws ago and 1 and 23 repeated from the last draw.How or why did that happen? plus I use too assume that numbers that haven't been drawn in 3 or 4 months would be good candidates but the numbers that were drawn actually came from the past 2 or 3 wks which is a short time therefore I realised sometimes you only needed the past 2 to 4 wks of drawn numbers too actually look for your numbers too wheel.That's what is called Short Term Analysis,Long Term Analysis requires

6-8 wks these are just examples I'm giving you too understand what I'm talking about because every state lottery game might have differences in history needed.

Now I know what your thinking with all these possible patterns how can you decide which ones too use? Well that's where practice,skill,systems and software come into play.Also you don't try and figure out which patterns are going too appear if too many are showing up at once they appear at different times or in spurts and sometimes in small numbers sometimes large.So as long as you know what they are you can follow them and after much practice you will see when they are about too come up and choose accordingly.The pick-3/4 games are the easiest too see these variables that's how I hit the Pick-3 on 4/20.And all this talk about challenging my methods or whatever can't be done because you don't go chasing these patterns on a daily basis.I play 2 days in a row then I will skip 2 or 3 days because that way you get a clearer picture of what's going on or what's going too happen.I use too play daily and would lose because too many patterns would appear at the same time but I noticed that after a couple days I would see things much better and could decide which ones will hit and which ones won't.

You didn't answer my question. You described the effect. What is the cause?

Guys,

I'd like to throw my two cents in here.

IMO there are two kinds of Bias, Natural and Mechanical.

Natural Bias is present in any random dvent.  The laws that govern this type of bias have to do with the tendency of dvents to take on the bell-shaped or Gaussian Curve over time.

Mechanical Bias has to do, of course, with the mechanical dynamics of the machines, ball weight, air pressure, size of the bin, order of the balls as they drop etc.

It is very easy to determine which bias is effecting the draw.  Computer Generated Numbers, eg; California, have no mechanical parts that can affect the outcome.  Therefore those winning numbers obey the laws of Natural Bias.  Now machines on the other hand can be unpredictable sometimes.  For they follow BOTH Natural and Mechanical Bias to varying degrees from state-to-state.

I would estimate that the average mean distribution across the board is probably about 5% Mechanical Bias and 95% Natural.  Lottery officials make it a point to assure that Mechanical Bias is kept to a minimum.  What they can't avoid is the Laws of Natural Bias.

(Here it comes.)

My system uses a reverse logic based on a drawfile.  From one number to the next, by position.  Rather than predicting what the next digit in that position will be.  We calculate what the next digit in that postion will not be.

From any given draw to the next in the 3-Digit for example.

The odds of that same digit falling in that postion is 1:10.  The odds of a different digit falling in that position is 9:10.  This is effective until we reach the 50/50 Threshold, 5:10.  If a digit/number repeates before that threshold, It is due to bias.  Most of the time it is due to Natural Bias.  Only by looking at the big picture can we verify for certain whether it was natural or mechanical, ie; the digits that preceeded the beginning cutoff.

I believe in computer systems, mine especially, because you can eliminate human error in the selection process.  You can rely on the algorithms/code to make the correct calculations based on sound mathematical principles.

I do not believe that winning numbers come to us by blind luck, astrology, faith, tea leaves, etc. etc. etc.  If they do provide a win is is by pure chance.  Not an understanding of the forces that create random numbers.

....../George

>The odds of that same digit falling in that postion is 1:10. The odds of a different digit falling in that position is 9:10. This is effective until we reach the 50/50 Threshold, 5:10. If a digit/number repeates before that threshold, It is due to bias. Most of the time it is due to Natural Bias. Only by looking at the big picture can we verify for certain whether it was natural or mechanical, ie; the digits that preceeded the beginning cutoff.>



I didn't quite understand that, could you expand on that a   little?

Thomas,

A 50/50 Threshold is basically a coin toss (duality).  Which is unpredictable for the most part.  I have developed a non-biased method for dealing with dualities.  However it is not used in my system at this point.  Which is why my system only rarely computes a non-biased matrix lower than 60/40.  Sometimes the bias gets so bad that even higher matrices (60/40 and above) cannot be calculated.

Going any lower at that point requires a Biased Matrix.  This is good because by then, the system has locked on to those bias digits.

If your drawfile started two days ago and a digit repeats.  You can look at the numbers preceeding the last two draws to see if that digit repeated by natural or mechanical means.  Let's say 7 repeated in the first position.  Usually you can glance at the previous 6 winning numbers to see which bias caused it.

If the 7 showed in the first position, 6 draws or less prior, then it is most likely a Mechanical Bias.  If not, or your drawfile came from California, then it is most definately due to a Natural Bias and the 7 should not be given priority in future plays for the first position.

....../George

I read your website(somewhat) and I still don't see how it applies to lottery numbers. Any number has just as much chance of coming up as any other. Trends may happen because of physical properties, but those physical properties are kept minimal or changed all together by the lottery officals. It took Nick Perry a heck of a lot of paint to fix the lottery balls. With the balls being almost identical it could take millions of draws to form a pattern.

Thomas,

I agree that Mega-Millions and PowerBall Officials put in a lot of overtime to ensure that no Mechanical Bias exists.  Thinking, rightly so, that they are creating a truly random outcome.

Now let's agree that the numbers are random and no Mechanical Bias exists.  So if the numbers are indeed random.  Then a very clear Bell Curve (Natural Bias) will result if you record the numbers from past draws.  This is a fact in the world of statistics.  If you don't believe me then research it for yourself.

My system goes after that Bell Curve Pattern along with the reverse logic I stated above.  If it finds a Mechanical Bias to exploit then great, if not, then that is alright too.

I haven't produced a software product to tackle the big games yet.  I will someday, that you can be assured.

Off Topic:

I read your "parody" post on people who sell systems etc. for games of chance.  I'm in it for the thrill of creating software that will predict a random dvent because of the scientific/mathematical implications.

I have to bring developers in from time to time to assist in creating these.  I pay them all out of MY pocket.  So when we create a software product that works.  I pass the cost on to anyone who wishes to use it.

I do win by using my system on a regular basis.  Yes I make enough money from the lottery to pay for the development and then some.  However don't assume I am below human for selling my technology.  I have made a lot of money for people over the years, who don't own my software. 

..../George

Obviously you didn't read or you just don't understand

so I'll make it more simple for you.The "Cause" of Random Numbers forming patterns and trends which is the "Effect" is the result of the numbers being drawn over and over and over again for a LONG period of time

which is called "Long Term Trend Analysis" a "Short Term

Trend" happens in a SHORT period of time say 3 or 4 wks

After the numbers have been recycled so many times you start too notice things like repeats,skips,overdue,Hot

Cold etc....You only need a few wks too start noticing these things but after a much longer period of time you'll see even more patterns.And with a trained eye you

become skilled at knowing what too anticipate you won't be right every time but you wil catch them more often with practice.So if you still don't get it then don't worry about it because you never will just stick too your quick-picks and let us Professional Players do what we know best.

Listen Thomas,this is really starting too get old with you.I understand Mr.Sedertree's concepts and have the Demo of his Software so it's obvious that all this stuff is above your Head and since you can't understand or your just too Close Minded about it you prefer too attack it and us.You see if we are able too hit the numbers using these methods then obviously it works,and all this talk about challenging is ridiculous your not gonna hit every sinlge day but it's possible too hit 2 or 3 times a week if your a Pro and 2 or 3 times a month if your a Novice/Amateur.I haven't hit Pro status yet but I will soon,and your comment about the numbers having an equal chance of being drawn is correct but here's something that your forgetting only 5 or 6 numbers can be drawn therefore your gonna have biases over other numbers.You see no matter what the Lottery Officials do they can't eliminate these Biases completely unless they start physically pulling the balls out of the drums by hand and dropping them thru

the tubes.That's the only way they can truly control the numbers and eliminate any patterns or biases.It's

not that hard too understand your just making it hard and refusing too except the facts.If the Florida Lottery game was called a Pick-53 then all the balls would come up at the same time wouldn't they? that's the only way the concept of "All numbers having an equal chance of being drawn" would apply without a doubt.This is a scientific belief but in actual drawings we see that different numbers are drawn more often than others and some can hit weekly while others aren't drawn for several wks,plus the ones that repeat 3 draws in a row.So the proof is there you just refuse too see it,Mr.Sedertree's software explores a different area of these biases much like an opposite end approach

and he's not trying too decieve,take advantage of or scam anybody out of there hard earned cash too buy his program.It's actually intended for players who understand the concepts of lottery number odds of probability and the patterns associated with random numbers.It's not really intended for skeptics and non-believers otherwise he wouldn't be selling it because no one would buy it like you.So trying too make these guys out too be "swindlers" or "con-artist" is really

childish,I've been buying systems and software for 6

yrs so why would I buy something that doesn't help me or

work? Here's some advice Thomas why don't you put all this effort into bad-mouthing and trying too make us feel stupid into picking your own numbers or buying more quick-picks.

Illusory correlation. Look the term up.

And too respond to your "Ridiculous" comment that it takes MILLIONS of draws too form patterns.This proves too me without a doubt that you DON'T KNOW what your talking about because anyone who knows will tell you that patterns form very quickly,in the Pick-6 52 draws

will show distinct patterns,in the Pick-5 30-60 draws

and in the Pick-3&4 games (short term 10-20)(long term

40-60).

There's no false perception here my friend the only problem I see is your inability too look beyond what is considered impossible.If there's no order in random numbers then I guess the reason I win playing the numbers using these methods is because of "Magic and Lottery Spirits" anyway that's all I have too say I've got more important things too do than debate with someone who has a "BrainWashed" way of thinking.

Good Day!!!!

Lottowiz, you are the one getting all hyper about this. I am just stating my opinion. I do agree with you about some things. Lottery system players do win more than other players. They also lose more. That is because they play more. A lot of the systems require you to buy a lot of tickets. I do understand Sedertree's site, what I don't understand is how this applies to predicting lottery numbers. All of it is hindsight.

My method of play doesn't require buying a lot of tickets.I spend anywhere from 5 to 20 dollars no more and that's for all the games.And we don't lose more than quick-pick players or anyone else if anything it would be equal,but for players who are PRO's they win more than they lose and quick-pick or luck number players lose more than they win by far.So get your facts

straight.I get better statements from VISIONDUDE at least he knows more about what he says then you do.And

I'm not getting HYPER I'm just having FUN tearing you up!! Okay well play time is over the discussion has ended thanks for your participation!!!!

And Have a Wonderful Day!!!!

You can't prove anything you say, Lottowiz. So what's the point. You refuse to post any of your picks. Your excuse is that you have nothing to prove. Sure. That's a good excuse. It sounds pretty lame to me. I will let you in on a little secret. I am psychic. I have predicted many major world dvents in the last couple of years. Of course, I'm not going to write any of my predictions down. I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else.

I don't need too prove anything too you just like you don't need too prove your so called psychic abilities too me.And you just contradicted yourself if

my refusing too post any numbers is being lame then your just as lame for not posting any predictions.And you being Psychic doesn't make you special I studied

Astrology,Numerology,Tarot,Magic and Psychic Phenomena

for 5 yrs and everyone has psychic ability too some degree some more than others,Aries,Gemini,Aquarius and Pisces have strong psychic characteristics and abilities especialy if they are fully developed.I am able too forsee many things in my own life and others that are close too me through dreams.So your not impressing me one bit by saying your "PSYCHIC",and here's the $50,000 question if your so "PSYCHIC" how come you haven't won the Lottery? I know that some Psychics are able too predict numbers Ken Dickkerson is one of them(have you heard of him?).I knew there was something weird about you you psychics think you know everything.Me and Ken Dickkerson got into a heated debate on another Lottery Forum for the same reasons

he kept saying it's just luck and no system or software can increase your chances only looking at Tea Leaves,Kirlian Photography,Astrology and Numerology numbers and other psychic methods can help you.Well I used some of those methods and they are no better than what I'm doing now in fact I've hit more times using my methods than I did using Astrology,Bio-Rythms,Numerology

and Tarot techniques.Everybody on this planet has the same ability that you do it's just that a lot of them don't pay attention or don't understand or are aware what's happening when it occurs.I was the same way until I started investigating and studying too find out what was going on.I knew my X-wife was going too have a baby and 2 months later she did,and I didn't even know she was pregnant at the time I just had a dream that she was and told her about it.So you see I'm Psychic too maybe not as much as you are but I still have the gift.

I was being sarcastic when I said I was psychic. I don't believe anyone is psychic. There has never been a successful double-blind psychic test. Not one. Astrology is pretty lame also. The hospital building would affect you more than any planet in the universe.(besides earth). Ok, so there may be some force in the universe we haven't found yet. But these forces would apply to black holes, quasars, and the almost infinite number of stars and planets that we have not discovered. Yet these are not figured in when you make predictions. Why does the time of your birth matter? Does the mother somehow protect the fetus from all those unknown forces?

Numerology? Somehow the name you are given at birth was preordained to coincide with the date of your birth and to be coordinated with certain numbers so that certain special people (the numerologists taking your money) could calculate from this data who you are and what you will be. Sure.

Gentlemen,

I am psychic, I predict that neither one of you will win a jackpot within the next month.  Please post in one month if I am wrong.

RJOh 

RJOh, I think it would be a fa

No RJOH.  Being also a pyschic, no one who is a MEMEBER of this lotterypost will ever win the jackpot.  EVER. PERIOD.  Prove me wrong!

The world will be in one fine mess when pick-3/4 winners receive annuity payments.

The world is in a mess right now. 

I'll prove you wrong "AnnuityIsGreat" and as for "RJOh"

I predict that it would be STUPID of me too believe what you say even if you are a real psychic you have no

control or information on when or if I'll hit a Lottery Jackpot,that's totally up too me and when I do I'll Post a message here and even send a copy of my winning ticket too Todd for proof.I know a lot about Psychic ability I studied it for 6 yrs along with other

Metaphysical Sciences psychics don't always know everything about other people I'm psychic and I don't either.

A Lottery Post member won $100,000 in Powerball in Pennsylvania - here's the scan to prove it.  (Posted last year.)

todd,

that $100,000 b&#