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Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate


For the first time I can see how it is possible Obama was not born in the USA.  I thought when they found the newspaper listings it was a done deal he was born here, but apparently not so.  This is fascinating stuff.

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Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."

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Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.

Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives.

"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said.

For seemingly the first time, Abercrombie frankly acknowledged that presidential politics motivated his search for Obama birth records, implying that failure to resolve the questions that remain unanswered about the president's birth and early life may damage his chance for re-election.

"If there is a political agenda (regarding Obama's birth certificate), then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president," he said.

So far, the only birth document available on Obama is a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth that first appeared on the Internet during the 2008 presidential campaign. It was posted by two purportedly independent websites that have displayed a strong partisan bias for Obama – Snopes.com released the COLB in June 2008, and FactCheck.org published photographs of the document in August 2008.

WND previously reported the Hawaii Department of Health has refused to authenticate the COLB posted on the Internet by Snopes.com and FactCheck.org.

WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.

Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was born elsewhere.

Moreover, WND has documented that the address reported in the newspaper birth announcements was the home of the grandparents.

WND also has reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, and that Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the University of Washington in Seattle.

Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass.

Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed.

WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and that neither Honolulu hospital – Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center – has any record that Obama was born there.


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Comment by louise black - January 19, 2011, 11:59 am
So what ! I can't find mine either. said that to say what?
ToddComment by Todd - January 19, 2011, 12:30 pm
No Louise, the STATE can find yours just fine. It maintains ALL birth certificates in the state records. If you wanted to, you could very easily obtain a copy -- even a raised-seal copy -- of you original birth certificate. Not being able to track down ANY resident's birth certificate is practically unheard of -- and beyond the pale for a president (or presidential candidate). It is extremely suspicious.
sully16Comment by sully16 - January 19, 2011, 12:41 pm
If it can be proven that he gained the Presidency illegally, does that make all the laws he passed null and void?
and, could their be criminal charges?
ToddComment by Todd - January 19, 2011, 12:59 pm
I seriously doubt there would be criminal charges, because frankly it is the people who CERTIFIED him who would have been wrong to do it. It would be interesting to see what happens with the laws though -- and military moves (i.e., Commander in Chief).

However, I think there are so many powerful people with so much to lose that the truth will be forever hidden from view. The media is complicit in it too, since they refuse to investigate and mock those who do.
Rick GComment by Rick G - January 19, 2011, 1:11 pm
Anyone born in a U.S. hospital can get a copy of their birth certificate at their local county health dept. The STATE never loses this document because it establishes ownership (title) of you.
Comment by louise black - January 19, 2011, 1:24 pm
But their not going to prove that , you right wingers, tea party and benefit of doubt independents need to give this (Birther) crap up, this shows really, really where your coming from in your heart of hearts and your not fooling anyone where you pretend to like any American that doesn't have your same ideas and culture, I am really surprise at some of you people because of where you came from. Like I was often told by my elders if you watch a snake long enough you will know when it will strike! You can't get an original copy of my birth. (Birther)that's where I draw the line.
ToddComment by Todd - January 19, 2011, 2:32 pm
Well Louise, your comment only proves you don't know how it works. Anyone born in a USA hospital can get a copy of their original birth certificate. You're right about the snake, but wrong about who it applies to.
Comment by GASMETERGUY - January 19, 2011, 3:39 pm
You are right, Louise, I am against people who do not share my ideas; especially the one about respect for the law. Evidently President Obama does not have the same respect for the law as I do. Ergo: I am against him.
MADDOG10Comment by MADDOG10 - January 19, 2011, 4:10 pm
You're not going to find a birth certificate of him in Hawaii, because he was born in Kenya...!
Thats why he had all items about his birth sealed. His respect for the constitution and the laws of America are moot. And people wonder why other people don't have any respect for him. That is a no-brainer...!
Comment by louise black - January 19, 2011, 6:24 pm
Lol Todd ,you have got to be kidding I don't know how it works, lol again, maybe I should alert some of my friends to response to your observation of me and their members on the LP also that known me for most of my adult life and let them tell about your comment.
ToddComment by Todd - January 19, 2011, 6:28 pm
Louise, I am only responding to your false statement that a birth certificate copy could not be obtained. I don't know you, and don't claim to, but if you don't know that anyone can obtain a copy of their birth certificate, then I must assume you don't know how it works. I've known about the process MY whole adult life, having obtained a copy long ago.

Naturally, I am making the mature assumption that we are talking about people born in a US hospital, not someone born in a shack, because the president claims that he was born in a hospital in Hawaii.
Comment by louise black - January 19, 2011, 8:54 pm
Todd ,what make you think I was born in a shack, FGS man get a grip. I was born in a state I don't like but not a shack Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
ToddComment by Todd - January 19, 2011, 10:07 pm
I don't think you read very well.
Comment by joker17 - January 20, 2011, 12:10 am
The presidents don't pull the strings. It doesn't matter If they are U.S. born or not. Once folks realize this, they will start thinking about real issues at hand, and not the trivial BS. Only then will they see the bigger picture.

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