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N.J. Lottery to end live broadcast of midday drawing

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Posted: May 13, 2009, 3:34 am - IP Logged

I Agree! 

Right!

It's the same line of false reasoning that justifies lotteries moving to computerized drawings.

Anyone who does serious financial modeling knows that stuff like this is not a simple add-and-subtract exercise.  Changes have rippling repercussions, and the failure to acknowledge and account for that is highly misleading.

The TV station (NJN) said that 2 million people watch the live drawings.  Does the lottery seriously think that 2 million people will all have the same exact reaction of not changing their buying patterns based on the loss of live broadcasts?

This reminds me of something another member told me recently about a different state lottery.  He said that an aide to the Governor in that state did not understand what was the big deal about watching ping pong ball drawings, and why they kept interrupting other shows for a few minutes when the draw took place (even if only showing a small caption of the results).

Now, this aid, who obviously has the Governor's ear, and thus has the ability to influence the Governor's thinking, has the potential to hurt the integrity of the lottery and/or impact sales by eliminating the live drawings in that state -- and the guy probably has zero knowledge about lottery players or lottery sales. 

Why the heck are these singular politicians -- in this case a non-elected aid -- able to carry strong influence into a subject matter (the lottery) which they know nothing about?  This stuff goes on all the time in different areas of government too, such as when some politician who knows nothing about education influences the curriculum standards in the state.

Enough of this already!

This is how it started in Indiana.

The Hoosier Lottery claimed it could save $80,000 a year by eliminating live drawings when they converted to their "new and exciting electronic drawing format," despite the fact that public drawings are mandated by state law. During their first year of using their new RNG, sales AND revenue EACH fell more than $100 million.

However, in all fairness I'm forced to admit that their predictions were correct - they DID save that $80,000 in broadcast fees ...

Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

Jim

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    Posted: May 13, 2009, 5:32 am - IP Logged

    Ill conceived idea.  $100k 'saved' can not outweigh public confidence lost when draws are held out of view .... which equates to behind closed doors just like RNG drawings.

    It wouldn't last long.. After about a month of not having the live drawing and lossing sales in midday it will be right back..

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      Posted: May 13, 2009, 8:14 pm - IP Logged

      ha...there goes ANOTHER state's credibility....I'm pretty sure the only lottery I have confidence in these days is Georgia's...North Carolina is a joke (who knows where THOSE funds go) and South Carolina makes it dam* near impossible to win anything So it looks like more trips to GA will happen this year...

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        Posted: May 14, 2009, 7:32 pm - IP Logged

        Whats next Corzine? Only simulcast racing at the meadowlands b/c it's cheaper?? Video slots in the supermarkets??! NJ is such a sess pool of corruption in government that they will resort to anything to screw u out of money! Now we cant really be 100% confident in the pick 3 and pick4 games? Will the jersey cash 5 be next? This absolutely is killing an already low consumer confidence rate. What to go you idiot!!!!

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          Posted: May 15, 2009, 5:33 pm - IP Logged

          They say the will show a "summary" of the drawing result at 1PM? You still can see it w/o internet but it will be a fleeting moment on the screen. As it was the drawings were remotely-controlled with a disembodied voice reciting the numbers. Someone I talked to also feels that the drawings can be fixed because the camera zooms in just before the ball pops up so you don't see that it came up from the tube, although I think that's far-fetched. But I'm surprised they didn't just go computerized like PA midday.

          The "erratic" payouts are because the nj Lottery is pari-mutuel, like horse racing. If more people play a # (or a horse) it pays less. There are erratic payouts in horse racing there also but players accept that. It balances out in the long-run.

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            Posted: May 15, 2009, 6:32 pm - IP Logged

            They say the will show a "summary" of the drawing result at 1PM? You still can see it w/o internet but it will be a fleeting moment on the screen. As it was the drawings were remotely-controlled with a disembodied voice reciting the numbers. Someone I talked to also feels that the drawings can be fixed because the camera zooms in just before the ball pops up so you don't see that it came up from the tube, although I think that's far-fetched. But I'm surprised they didn't just go computerized like PA midday.

            The "erratic" payouts are because the nj Lottery is pari-mutuel, like horse racing. If more people play a # (or a horse) it pays less. There are erratic payouts in horse racing there also but players accept that. It balances out in the long-run.

            Eek, I'm not sure I'd dare to even say "I'm surprised they didn't just go computerized like PA midday".  That would be like a stake through the heart.  Please tell them you didn't mean it! Scared

             

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              Posted: May 16, 2009, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

              Whats next Corzine? Only simulcast racing at the meadowlands b/c it's cheaper?? Video slots in the supermarkets??! NJ is such a sess pool of corruption in government that they will resort to anything to screw u out of money! Now we cant really be 100% confident in the pick 3 and pick4 games? Will the jersey cash 5 be next? This absolutely is killing an already low consumer confidence rate. What to go you idiot!!!!

               "   NJ is such a sess pool of corruption in government that they will resort to anything   ".

              That pretty much sums it up for  A LOT of players in this state, and how they feel. Corzine is another puppet on the list of political " JACK ASSES "

                                                           

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                Posted: May 16, 2009, 9:33 pm - IP Logged

                 "   NJ is such a sess pool of corruption in government that they will resort to anything   ".

                That pretty much sums it up for  A LOT of players in this state, and how they feel. Corzine is another puppet on the list of political " JACK ASSES "

                Pretty much Sums It Up for Every State and the Federal Government!

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                  Posted: May 16, 2009, 9:47 pm - IP Logged

                  Pretty much Sums It Up for Every State and the Federal Government!

                  I look at it with a few more shades of gray than this.

                  As the old adage goes, you can tell that a politician is lying by the fact that their lips are moving, but there is lying — and then there is lying, corruption, and a complete lack of ethics or guiding principles.  (A certain Speaker of the House comes to mind as I type this.)

                  In some areas of the country things are done with a little more civility, and there is a bit more respect paid to a common set of morals.  Everyone expects that politicians are going to say what they think you want to hear.  But as long as a politician firmly states where they stand on issues — and they consistently stick to that stand — then I have some ability to forgive the occasional white lie.

                  Even worse than habitual liars are the politicians so entrenched in their position of power (normally because they represent a group of voters who will mindlessly punch their button in the voting booth no matter what the person does or says) that they don't even need to lie when they screw over the citizenry.

                  I think that's what the original NJ politics comment was referring to.

                   

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