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BOMBSHELL: MUSL employee might have rigged Hot Lotto computerized drawing

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Posted: April 13, 2015, 6:48 pm - IP Logged

i figured sooner or later there would be a story involving hacking computerized drawings. I have never been a fan of them and glad that Texas is a 100% ball machine drawings state.

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    Posted: April 13, 2015, 9:45 pm - IP Logged

    There is a reason as to why they are called RNGs.  It is because RNG stands for Rigged Numbers Game.

    Once the Michigan Daily Keno went from ball draws to RNGs the number of top prize winners was cut about in half!

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      the guy messed up by purchasing the ticket himself. Think about how many times this may have been pulled off by just getting someone else to buy the ticket and split the winnings.

      Its clear with fantasy 5 the randomization sucks. And furthermore seems to keep the game (ca lotto books) balanced. Seems when "not enough" people are playing nobody wins (crazy combos), then jackpot gets higher, bringing more people into a game they don't always play, sales figures get met,and so on... once enough tix are sold then all of the sudden a reasonable combo comes along and the large jackpot gets split 2-3-4 ways. never too high never too low. hmmm???

      ca lotto pulled live video of super lotto+ draws for no apparent reason. then the only option they offer is to watch the draw in-person at their offices in Sacramento???

      when it has become ridiculously easy for anyone to have a live video feed nowadays via youtube why is ca lotto moving backwards when it comes to the player? but full steam ahead when it comes to protecting profits???

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        Posted: April 13, 2015, 10:06 pm - IP Logged

        Never trusted a game that was produced by a computer..

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          Posted: April 13, 2015, 10:13 pm - IP Logged

          I always wondered why Tipton would even buy a ticket considering he could only cash the $100 prize and under without getting caught and it didn't matter if the ticket was a QP if Tipton knew he could manipulate the drawing and find someone to cash it. The real questions is "Can the drawings be manipulated" and even if Tipton didn't, there is still the possibility. Those who play lottery games with computer generated numbers should ask their state lottery officials what they are doing to prevent this type of fraud.

          Oh, and had Iowa allowed anonymity, it's possible Tipton would have got away with it.

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            Posted: April 13, 2015, 10:18 pm - IP Logged

            Tennessee has been doing it for years,,yes it can....a lottery thats been running for years and still no payouts,,,last week with the 1011 hit,large payout,,lets see if it is posted in the weekly payout draws and where it was hit,,,I bet not

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              Posted: April 14, 2015, 4:05 am - IP Logged

              I remember when that idiot attorney tried to claim the ticket for his "clients", but couldn't provide verification of anything.  Then he said he wanted to claim it to give it to charity; at that point, I knew something was fishy, as no one walks away from a $14.3 Million prize.  Turns out it was completely fishy; the boneheads deserve what they get...

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                Posted: April 14, 2015, 7:46 am - IP Logged

                Now it makes you wonder what would have happened if this was a state where you could claim anonymously!  Hope they have the right wording in those rules... 

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                  Posted: April 14, 2015, 8:16 am - IP Logged

                  Now it makes you wonder what would have happened if this was a state where you could claim anonymously!  Hope they have the right wording in those rules... 

                  That had crossed my mind also.

                  Funny thing is that I haven't seen or heard anything about this on tv or online anywhere else. This is pretty newsworthy.

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                    That had crossed my mind also.

                    Funny thing is that I haven't seen or heard anything about this on tv or online anywhere else. This is pretty newsworthy.

                    This is probably more a local story than national, only big lottery jackpots and the people who win them make national news.

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                      Posted: April 14, 2015, 12:11 pm - IP Logged

                      There is a reason as to why they are called RNGs.  It is because RNG stands for Rigged Numbers Game.

                      Once the Michigan Daily Keno went from ball draws to RNGs the number of top prize winners was cut about in half!

                      Never trusted the RNG machines until a friend hit 9 out of 10 numbers. Still not a fan of them.

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                        Posted: April 14, 2015, 1:10 pm - IP Logged

                        Now it makes you wonder what would have happened if this was a state where you could claim anonymously!  Hope they have the right wording in those rules... 

                        Being honest, I think lottery has a right to know who winner is, to prevent lottery employee or an vender(theyu make the instant tickets)claiming a lottery prize or some other banned player by law.

                        The real issue is when the "state" lottery knows  it then becomes a public record and PUBLIC should not know  period, they have no right to know is my key point.

                        Just like Public does not have a right to know how much anyone wealth is form the IRS department.

                        The irs knows everyone wealth, but all records are NOT public. You can't have IRS tell you who 1% are.

                        I Have no issue  with IRS and Lottery knowing who someone(s) is behind the lottery win, but like irs, needs to not be public record.

                        The real issue is not being "anonymous"  to the govt/lottery , there is no debate  about why they should know who you are.  They should know!

                        However being "anonymous" to the public is up debate.

                        There many real life examples of public abusing public records to con/beg/steal/threaten/ etc past lottery winners.

                        For instant I think any judge in hes right mind would grant a sealed(no pubic record of an) name change to a lottery winner if he got death threats. Why can't we just give the people winning the option of being unknown,  by choice. Right form the start at lottery office.

                        At the moment the only way to be really "unknown" in majority of states is to prevent even lottery form knowing to avoid there stupid public record laws.

                        And i think that's bad idea. i want the freaking lottery to know who I am.  Yet not the public. It's an conflict of interest that should not have to happen for lottery winners.

                        If am ever forced to pick between my own Safety or state knowing who then shares that info to whole world. am picking my safetly over states sound request to know who I am.

                        At the moment, corporations are people! The U.S. Supreme Court says they are.

                        Must people are simple-minded and are oblivious of current legal system they live in.

                        Take for example if any large company such as 'The Coca-cola company' could walk into lottery offices with a wining powerball ticket worth 300m and  claim it on behalf of share holders

                        If even the LOTTERY really REALLY wanted to know who won it won't happen.

                        And  the winner would be the coca-cola company in the public records law, why is that?

                        Will it's all thanks to courts, a corporation is a person and can do whatever you or i can do. Deal with it.

                        Also gl finding out who share holders are. 

                        'The shareholders, on the other hand, are normally not listed and not published. You'll have to ask the company, and it probably won't tell you (and won't even know them all as many shares are held in the "street name" of the broker or trust even).'

                        Even if  lottery wanted to Fight me in a long court battle they lose this war of knowing who I was. even if the corporation was ordered to give over our full share holder list, i could full that list with tons of names and trusts names who own shares. Not even coca-cola knows who all there share holders are. what make you think lottery has a chance in hell of finding out if someone tried this trick!

                        Now, cue the inevitable onslaught of messages from people who claim you can't be anonymous even to states lottery who demands your names,  Who also assume they have any understanding of legal chaos that is united states laws.

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                          Posted: April 14, 2015, 1:56 pm - IP Logged

                          I always believe that computerized drawings are not fair to lottrey players..

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                            Posted: April 14, 2015, 4:31 pm - IP Logged

                            This is probably more a local story than national, only big lottery jackpots and the people who win them make national news.

                            It will become a National story if there is enough evidence that Tipton rigged the drawing, but for now he is only accused of fraud for buying a lottery ticket.

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                              Posted: April 14, 2015, 5:07 pm - IP Logged

                              When this report first came out here on lottery post I did express my concern with Iowa lottery officials for spending the money quickly b4 releasing video for public help. Now we know why it is one of them with the fat ugly face in the video really really crazy stupid even a moron can steal better at least not 14million at a time.Surrender