Powerball changing in October to generate bigger jackpots

Jul 8, 2015, 10:30 am (96 comments)

Powerball

By Todd Northrop

The multi-state Powerball game will be changing in October, making it harder to win the jackpot, while at the same time making it easier to win a smaller prize.

With the state lotteries becoming reliant upon big multi-state jackpot games driving ticket sales, the long streak of Powerball jackpots being won before reaching historic levels has crimped state budgets.  The October changes are designed to fix that problem by forcing the jackpot to be won less often.

After the changes are enacted, the odds of winning the jackpot — which was a record $590.5 million in 2013 — will increase to 1 in 292,201,338, up from 1 in 175,223,510.

The odds of winning $4? That will improve from 1 in 111 to 1 in 92. The new rules will take effect with tickets purchased starting Oct. 4 for the Oct. 7 drawing.

"The rules change is intended to increase the odds of winning any prize, while making it more difficult to win the jackpot prize," the state Gaming Commission said in a memo to board members.

At its board meeting Monday, the state Gaming Commission approved the changes, saying the modifications will make the game more sustainable. The percentage of money that goes to the jackpot will drop from 68% to 64%, while the percentage going to smaller prizes will increase.

"The proposed rule is intended to increase the odds of winning any prize while decreasing the odds to win the jackpot," said Robert Williams, executive director of the state Gaming Commission.

The move is aimed at boosting jackpots as sales have slumped since 2013, the last huge payout. Overall, the chances of winning a prize will improve from about 1 in 32 to 1 in 25.

"Without these rules changes, the (Lottery) Division would need to remove the Powerball game from its portfolio of offerings and aid to education would be negatively affected," the Gaming Commission memo said.

In Powerball, players purchase tickets for $2 each, and on each ticket players select five numbers from one set and one number from a second set.

The rules change will increase the first set of numbers from 59 to 69, while decreasing the size of the second set of numbers from 35 to 26. The set prize amount for the third-level prize will increase from $10,000 to $50,000.

Powerball sales declined nationally by 19% last year because there was no huge jackpot. The same was true for the drop in Mega Millions sales, the other multi-state lottery, New York officials said.

In New York last year, Powerball sales plummeted 44%, a decline of $217 million.

In February, the state Gaming Commission said the fluctuations in the multi-state games have prompted the state to focus on games with more consistent jackpots.

New York's lottery is "focused on developing and promoting non-jackpot driven games to reduce future dependence on more mature jackpot games and multi-state jackpot games," the lottery said.

Last year, the state launched a Cash 4 Life draw game, which generated more than $100 million in sales in its first six months.

But the state has had some busts over the past year: It ended the New York-only Sweet Millions game because of poor sales and, along with 22 other state lotteries, dropped the multi-state Monopoly Millionaires' Club game after only two months.

Lottery Post Staff, Detroit Free Press

Comments

JADELottery's avatarJADELottery

Oooo, this is gonna be Great.

We get to test our Power Mega Balls with Three Sum Math on a new matrix.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

0 IN 292,201,338 VERSUS 1 IN 292,201,338 TO WIN THE JACKPOT.

"I play only to win the big jackpot, regardless of the odds. I only buy a ticket or two. There is not much difference between 1 or 100 in 292,201,338 but there is a huge difference between those odds and 0 in 292,201,338. In other words not much reason to buy several tickets, just one." RAY

Size of the USA population is 300 Million.

ThatScaryChick's avatarThatScaryChick

I didn't play much as it is and this doesn't really make me want to play more. I hope people get those big jackpots that they want though. Clown

RedStang's avatarRedStang

 How do the chances of winning improve by increasing the numbers.

Gleno's avatarGleno

If the Powerball  sales  plummeted by 19%  before the changes ,

they are betting that we bite on the smaller prize increases ,

which do look attractive, will pick up the slack.

It might work.

Hope they don't kill the goose that lays their golden egg.

What?

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by RedStang on Jul 8, 2015

 How do the chances of winning improve by increasing the numbers.

They reduced the number of powerballs which improved your overall chances of winning a prize, that's how.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by RedStang on Jul 8, 2015

 How do the chances of winning improve by increasing the numbers.

RedStamg,

The article states easier to win smaller prizes.

BellasBMWLucki

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Jul 8, 2015

They reduced the number of powerballs which improved your overall chances of winning a prize, that's how.

I thank you for sharing what i knew as well. So time will tell. I hope for more who play often win sooner than later.

Let's see first how it all works out. I am going to continue to procure uno... o dos...(one or two)if that. I am winning more doing what i do now with mi pick 3 and or pick 4 regularly at times. I spend more on P-Ball then i realize, only procure 1 sometimes even 2. However, MEGA is only a dollar so i will still play Mega mas en vida! lol adios. i hope you all enjoy your day and be bless with good winnings soon $ and good health most importante adios.

HAPPY WINNING !!!Smile

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by Gleno on Jul 8, 2015

If the Powerball  sales  plummeted by 19%  before the changes ,

they are betting that we bite on the smaller prize increases ,

which do look attractive, will pick up the slack.

It might work.

Hope they don't kill the goose that lays their golden egg.

What?

"Hope they don't kill the goose that lays their golden egg."

What?

That was the point, the goose had stopped laying golden eggs, hopefully big jackpots will return with this change.Party

jarasan's avatarjarasan

Can't wait,  how exciting,  incredible,  amazing,  tremendous, etc. etc.,  NOT.

Green laugh

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by jarasan on Jul 8, 2015

Can't wait,  how exciting,  incredible,  amazing,  tremendous, etc. etc.,  NOT.

Green laugh

I take it you're not trying to win a PB jackpot before it gets hard. Wink

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Jul 8, 2015

0 IN 292,201,338 VERSUS 1 IN 292,201,338 TO WIN THE JACKPOT.

"I play only to win the big jackpot, regardless of the odds. I only buy a ticket or two. There is not much difference between 1 or 100 in 292,201,338 but there is a huge difference between those odds and 0 in 292,201,338. In other words not much reason to buy several tickets, just one." RAY

Size of the USA population is 300 Million.

YOU WILL NEVER WIN A LOTTERY JACKPOT IN YOUR LIFETIME.

 

 

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Raven62's avatarRaven62

Quote: Originally posted by jarasan on Jul 8, 2015

Can't wait,  how exciting,  incredible,  amazing,  tremendous, etc. etc.,  NOT.

Green laugh

I Agree!

Raven62's avatarRaven62

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Jul 8, 2015

YOU WILL NEVER WIN A LOTTERY JACKPOT IN YOUR LIFETIME.

 

 

Green laughGreen laughGreen laugh

I Agree!

shadowlady's avatarshadowlady

Right now, hubby and I don't buy Powerball until the jackpot gets over $100million.  Maybe this change will get us to buy at lower jackpots......

fbird's avatarfbird

I guess these rocket scientist don't realize that the sales probably dropped due to the $2 per ticket they charge for powerball, when you can purchase a mega million for a dollar.Hat

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

Rant

Well, this is bad news, the state's are running up too big of unmerited contract bills/wages/salaries/construction projects and materials!  Why shouldn't these state's be forced by their Governor to cease this irresponsible/hurtful behavior; instead of making each state's on-line gamblers pay for their chronic out of control spending?

This year's Powerball balls re-arrangement also isn't being celebrated by me.  After all, Powerball only had 11 jackpots won last year!  This year will probably be only 12 jackpots won. 

Lastly, not nearly enough 2nd prizes are being won, monthly, in the Mega Millions and the Powerball nation-wide on-line games!!!

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by HaveABall on Jul 8, 2015

Rant

Well, this is bad news, the state's are running up too big of unmerited contract bills/wages/salaries/construction projects and materials!  Why shouldn't these state's be forced by their Governor to cease this irresponsible/hurtful behavior; instead of making each state's on-line gamblers pay for their chronic out of control spending?

This year's Powerball balls re-arrangement also isn't being celebrated by me.  After all, Powerball only had 11 jackpots won last year!  This year will probably be only 12 jackpots won. 

Lastly, not nearly enough 2nd prizes are being won, monthly, in the Mega Millions and the Powerball nation-wide on-line games!!!

"Why shouldn't these state's be forced by their Governor to cease this irresponsible/hurtful behavior; instead of making each state's on-line gamblers pay for their chronic out of control spending?"

Name one state that make gamblers participate in lotteries.  Gamblers are victims of their own greed for something for nothing or very little.  If the states weren't taking their money someone else would, there's always someone willing to take a gambler's money.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

This will backfire, most players are after the JP and couldn't care less about the lower prizes.

How many times do you hear about 2nd prize winners that didn't play the MP ?

And some don't even know there are lower prizes... the casual players that only buy when the JP is outsize,

isn't that who they're trying to attract ?

 

I was only playing when I could go to Delaware for tix. after the change when I do that it will be MM only.

MM having slightly better odds for half the price.

KY Floyd's avatarKY Floyd

"The odds of winning $4? That will improve from 1 in 111 to 1 in 92. "

You mean we can expect to win back $4 every time we spend $184? I can't believe they're making us wait until October for a chance like that.

flossdog

Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on Jul 8, 2015

"The odds of winning $4? That will improve from 1 in 111 to 1 in 92. "

You mean we can expect to win back $4 every time we spend $184? I can't believe they're making us wait until October for a chance like that.

Get rid of the stupid game. It's a ripoff @ $2 a ticket. get 4/5 numbers right out of 59...WOW an amazing $100.

Play NY 5/39  get 4/5 = $400+.  Do the math. Which would you prefer?

PB payouts are ridiculous same with Mega. I hit 4/5 on Mega last year and won a whopping $152. It's all BS payouts on these large games. The reason they keep upping the ante is because too many are winning.

NY went from 6/40-6/44-6/48-6/54- 6/59. Its all BS

darthfury78

I realized from playing the lottery for the past year, I selected the wrong game to play.

dr65's avatardr65

$4 prize and an increased chance to win it? Keep it. I always hated PB. Didn't they just

change it? Decreased sales might have to do with no high JP but I think it"s more like it's

just a bad game with rotten odds....which will be even more rotten....and rotten payouts.

$2 or $3 per play didn't help their cause either. I'm glad NY showed a drop of 44%, that's 

a big state. Too bad they aren't taking the numbers seriously. The change is a joke.

LottoLucy's avatarLottoLucy

Will there still be a multiplier and is the second prize staying $1 million?

Is there a nice chart somewhere laying it all out?

I will stop being a regular player in October.  The jackpot odds are too ridiculous now (haha as if 1 in 175 million isn't).  I might have stayed if the second prize was multiplied like it is in megamillions but this new powerball game doesn't sound fun to me.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

NY went from 6/40-6/44-6/48-6/54- 6/59. Its all BS

 

OH had 6/40,6/44,6/47,6/49+1,6/100 before deciding 6/49 was just right. Approve

Cruzincat

I stopped playing when they changed it to $2/ticket and made it harder to hit the jackpot by 2x. I sometimes doubled up on MM instead. 

If I want to play for smaller prizes, I can play daily Pick 3 or Pick 4 and win more often for more money.  I play the big games only because they are life changers, if you should happen to win.  If I don't win, at least I know that my losing tickets help fund someone else having a life changing moment.

Right now, 1 million would be life changing.  When it gets up over 20 million, it wouldn't change my life that much more. All I want is to be comfortable, not crazy rich.

They are killing the lottery as far as I am concerned.

LottoNXN

I agree!! Powerball is becoming a toilet bowl and I won't ever play again!!

veganlife125's avatarveganlife125

YeeHaa!  It had to happen.  Of course they should have raised it to 400million to 1 instead of 292million to 1 but its a step in the right direction. 

Need a billion dollar pot!

Next up Megamillions ups the ante above 292million to 1.  Like bugs bunny says "Of course you know this means war!"LOL

LottoNXN

Quote: Originally posted by flossdog on Jul 8, 2015

Get rid of the stupid game. It's a ripoff @ $2 a ticket. get 4/5 numbers right out of 59...WOW an amazing $100.

Play NY 5/39  get 4/5 = $400+.  Do the math. Which would you prefer?

PB payouts are ridiculous same with Mega. I hit 4/5 on Mega last year and won a whopping $152. It's all BS payouts on these large games. The reason they keep upping the ante is because too many are winning.

NY went from 6/40-6/44-6/48-6/54- 6/59. Its all BS

Powerball has lots its mojo I will definitely play more in state games than PB!

bobby623's avatarbobby623

As far as I can tell, the criteria for winning a non-jackpot prize will remain the same as it is now.
There are 8 prize divisions(?)
5+0
4+1
4+0
3+1
3+0
2+1
1+1
0+1

At present, I'm told if I match 3 of the 5 numbers drawn from a field of 59 numbers I'll win $7.
However, if I match 3 of the 5 numbers drawn AND the PB, I'll win $100.
In October, to win the same basic prize, I'll have to match 3 of 5 from a field in 69 numbers.
I realize that there will be fewer power balls, but it won't matter if I fail to match 3 of 5 numbers in the winning permutation.
Will someone please explain how winning the new game will be easier.


The greedy folks who are running this game are using changes in how the amount of money is divided up, hoping that
we won't snap on to the fact that regardless of odds, etc, etc, etc, winning 5+0, 4+0 and 3+0 prizes is going to be harder simply because
10 new numbers will have been added to the mix.

This new game is a 'predator' that lottery players could kill by spending their money on other games.

Prob988

The lottery officials keep working harder and harder to help me save money by not buying tickets.

I play by expectation value and these continuous changes for the worst keep me from playing very much.

You would think with the disaster that the Megamillions approach is turning out to be, that they would have learned their lesson.

They may see a billion dollar jackpot some day, but it will take two years of continuous rollovers to reach it. 

They're now seeing it take twenty and change draws to reach $300 million, whereas they used to get there in less than 20.

Sales will continue to be low.

LottoMetro's avatarLottoMetro

Quote: Originally posted by fbird on Jul 8, 2015

I guess these rocket scientist don't realize that the sales probably dropped due to the $2 per ticket they charge for powerball, when you can purchase a mega million for a dollar.Hat

This has actually been brought up (many) times in lottery conferences and so forth. But MUSL blames the larger playing population, not the price.

cjcpop2007

Will each play of the Powerball go back to $1 or will it remain at $2?

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by cjcpop2007 on Jul 8, 2015

Will each play of the Powerball go back to $1 or will it remain at $2?

Stays at $2.

psykomo's avatarpsykomo

Powerball needs more change in October and change back 2 the $1.00 ticket price. If they really want 2 help D little people, please CHANGE back now!

weshar75's avatarweshar75

Well I guess I will be buying my usual $3 tickets or $2 tickets for every drawing hoping for the million.-weshar75

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HoLeeKau's avatarHoLeeKau

I'd be so much happier if they had made it harder to win the JP by increasing only the powerballs.  A reduction in the number of white balls would be nice too.  Make the 2nd prize odds better.  I would think the increase in sales when the JP gets high would more than make up for a few more million dollar prizes.

One-Day

"will increase to 1 in 292,201,338, up from 1 in 175,223,510."

Same thing to me.  If you are lucky you are lucky no matter the odds.  What they need to do is reduce the ticket to $1; then I'll buy Powerball.  Megamillions all the way for me.

vtburke's avatarvtburke

Quote: Originally posted by HoLeeKau on Jul 8, 2015

I'd be so much happier if they had made it harder to win the JP by increasing only the powerballs.  A reduction in the number of white balls would be nice too.  Make the 2nd prize odds better.  I would think the increase in sales when the JP gets high would more than make up for a few more million dollar prizes.

Anyone who buys a powerball ticket after this is an idiot. They already charge 2x the price of Megamills. Odds improvement from 1/111 to 1/92 is no significant improvement. What a scam!

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RedStang on Jul 8, 2015

 How do the chances of winning improve by increasing the numbers.

The odds of winning $4? That will improve from 1 in 111 to 1 in 92.

As if 1 in 92 are good odds of a $2 ticket winning $4 (actual $2 win) is something special. LOL

VenomV12

They do this I will just stop playing unless the jackpots are just huge. MegaMillions told this same lie. On the old MegaMillions I frequently used to win something, even if it was a small amount, when they changed it, I have found that I barely ever win anything anymore. Realistically you are probably better off spending that same $2 on a scratch off ticket then the Powerball, even if the jackpot is much smaller. 

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

The difference between the current PB jackpot odds and the odds for the JP coming in October are 116,977,828.

That is one whole heck of a lot steeper odds than stated Pick 6 jackpot games.

But the MUSL knows that they could offer odds only a real chooch would play but people will still play them.

golfer1960's avatargolfer1960

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Jul 8, 2015

This will backfire, most players are after the JP and couldn't care less about the lower prizes.

How many times do you hear about 2nd prize winners that didn't play the MP ?

And some don't even know there are lower prizes... the casual players that only buy when the JP is outsize,

isn't that who they're trying to attract ?

 

I was only playing when I could go to Delaware for tix. after the change when I do that it will be MM only.

MM having slightly better odds for half the price.

Haymaker? Did you know you can buy Powerball in NJ now? You don't have to drive to DE to get them.

powerball

JeetKuneDoLotto's avatarJeetKuneDoLotto

MUSL has put the touch of death on PB.  They obviously don't know how to go with the flow. MUSL does not know how to be like water my friend.

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