Marie Holmes, North Carolina's $188 million Powerball lottery winner, is back in the news again.
This time Holmes is not spending millions of dollars on bailing her boyfriend, Lamarr "Hot Sauce" McDow, out-of-jail for the fourth time, but a pastor is allegedly suing her for $10 million for reneging on a verbal contract.
The 27-year-old mother of two took home a $127 million lump sum payment following her lottery win in February, 2015. (See N.C. Powerball lottery winner claims share of jackpot worth $188 million, Lottery Post, Feb. 24, 2015.)
Pastor Kevin Matthews says he is experiencing emotional and mental distress due to her backing down from a verbal contract they had regarding $1.5 million to purchase land to build a retreat facility.
"Because of the emotional distress and mental stress, they put me through, I had to start taking more medicine for anxiety and depression due to this situation," says Pastor Kevin Matthews.
Holmes' attorney, Ruth Sheehan, of The Francis Law Firm, said she was not aware of the situation or the lawsuit.
In a recent interview, Pastor Matthews said, "God led him to her house and he prayed with her."
He later met Holmes and ministered to her on several occasions at her new home. He also said he ministered to three other people at her home, and then he eventually asked her to consider giving him money to purchase land to build a retreat. He gave her three different amounts that he needed ($1 million, $1.5 million and $2 million). After several meetings, she agreed to give him $1.5 million to help purchase land to build a retreat center that he says he had been praying about for years.
Matthews spoke to several Realtors about the land and told them about the blessing he was receiving from Holmes, and he made a verbal contract to purchase the land. He says he even promised $200,000 out to other people and their ministries over a two-year period.
Matthews says that eventually Holmes told him that her accountant, Dexter Perry, would be in touch and she did not know how long it would take because the money was in bonds. Matthews says Perry, called him and they talked for three hours about the matter and the conversation ended with the money would be available by the end of the year. A three-hour recording made by Matthews appears to confirm Matthews' story regarding Holmes supposedly giving money to him to purchase land for a retreat. Perry can be heard on the recording stating that Holmes' Foundation is being set up and that Holmes really wanted to help people out and that they will have her foundation, and everything set up soon and they will do it the right way.
On the last few minutes of the recording, Perry can be heard stating, "Well, I appreciate you allowing me to call and spend this amount of time with you this morning. I'm going to go ahead and email you as soon as we hang up. Just reply to that. I'm going to ask for a few things — if you just get that to me at your leisure." He goes on to say, "Like I said before, there's no need really to ask Marie anymore. She already said she wants to do something and now it's up to us to fulfill our strategy, and I definitely understand the urgency in terms of your land purchase and people calling you." The conversation ends with Matthews saying he wants to do what God wants him to do and help as many people as possible.
The accountant involved as well as Holmes attorney, Ruth Sheehan, were not available for comment.
"I didn't see this coming and I think it was a third party that came along and told her not to do this," says Matthews. Holmes started a foundation and appointed her aunt as the executive director, according to Matthews. At some point, Matthews says he believes her aunt, Carmel Wheaton, got involved and stopped her from sending him the money. He says, Wheaton called him and said, "We have decided not to give you money." He said he explained to Wheaton that Ms. Holmes said she was giving it and the accountant assured him as well. He said her argument was, "Did she promise it to you?" Matthews said, "I got caught up with trying to be truthful and said she didn't use the word 'promise.'" Matthews then quoted Wheaton as saying, "She was appalled that a pastor would even ask for money."
Matthews contacted Holmes and she would not return any calls. Holmes' boyfriend, Lamarr McDow, did call Matthews and said, "There was nothing ever written down so the best thing you can do is mind your business and Marie will mind her business." Matthews said he had prayed with McDow on several occasions and tried to help him clean up his life.
Asked if he had talked to Holmes lately and Matthews says he ran into her recently and she wouldn't speak to him. Interestingly, when asked for his attorney's name and contact information, Matthews would not release the information. He says he is waiting on the paperwork (lawsuit) from his attorney.
"The bottom line ... I just want her (Marie Holmes) to do what she said she was going to do. I want peace and to do what God told me to do. I want her to do what she said she was going to do," says Matthews. "I really feel like a warrior for Christ and people need to be accountable."
Marie Holmes donated $700,000 to her church, Pleasant Hill Missionary Baptist Church last December.
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What a dog, and for once im not talking about her BF. I hope this guy rots in hell. mental stress? talk to god, im sure he'll call you a dog too.
It's her money to with as she wants. she doesn't owe the minister anything.
One Shrewd Pastor who sounds very manipulating and now using a lawsuit to squeeze money from a verbal agreement.
This woman has been a train wreak since she has won bailing out her drug dealer boyfriend over and over now this she will be completely broke soon such a sad story.
This is crazy, a pastor claiming that he wants to what GOD has asked him to do. Well, as a pastor he should know that if GOD wanted him to do that, provisions will be made for him to do that (build a retreat). I'm appalled that a pastor would except gambling money, knowingly.
You are right shrewd wow a verbal agreement and now he's going to try and make her give him her OWN money. The Pastor is sick he needs God and I wish Marie would go somewhere and lay downgive herself a break. She is really making it bad for herself.
The man is evil and I hope he gets exposed for what he is a greedy begging vulture
Like I said before, these pastors, so called men of God are some of the biggest crooks and con men out there, maybe less than 10% of them actually believe in what they say and are good men, the rest just found a way to get rich off of suckers.
If a thief broke into your house to steal $1.5M from you and you shot him in self defense and defense of your property, it would be lawful if you shot him.
If someone is trying to break into your bank account and steal $10M from you using the court system, is that not a lawful reason to shoot him?
I hate this story and that pastor.
Think before you speak,
Don't make promises you can't or won't honor.
Yikes, this girl needs help.
if the judge doesn't throw this nonsense out of court, he should be disbarred.
If Pastor Matthew story was totally true. He wouldn't been alone praying at this woman home. Most church 's members the entire congregation would have been praying with him. This is the kind of blessing the pastor tell his whole congregation.He is talking to real estate people without money in hand making promises to give other part of money over a two year period.I really don't know about his church, but his church's financial board, executives & congregation vote on issues this big. When you give a large donation, you can specify where you money is used. Example said, the church send out a call to the member that a new roof. It starts a roof fund separated from the general fund. We write use for NEW Church Roof only /Return if not use for that purpose. It make the church accountable.If Marie have of been give it to his church, it belong to the church not Pastor Matthew. The church board can ask him to resign at any time & replace him. They could sent him to another church, the money don't go with him. She had no problems giving a $70,000 to her own church. Pastor Matthew needs real prayer.
Miss Holmes has done some dumb things, but i'm on her side with this. This fraud man of God needs to just go away. If this man wasn't planning to scheme why would he record their conversation on the sly? What kind of Minister does this? However, I wouldn't be surprised if she loses this case since i've seen other bogus cases result in wins for the huckster.
This pastor sounds like one of those TV preachers who's always talking about strangers giving them a million dollars as per God's instructions even if they can't pay their rent. Since races are mostly segregated in SC, I doubt if she even attends his church or know any of his followers.
Many years ago the church received a lot of ground by testaments. Some say that a few testaments must have been forced and others disappeared. It would be fun to know what the church(es) own(s), does anybody have their balance sheet(s)?
Maybe you want to read the story of Tijl Uilenspiegel (Till Eulenspiegel)?
If i saw this freak kneeling in front of my lawn i would of called 911 and said there was a nut job licking the curb just to get him hauled away. Why is he praying like a muslim. He's facing east, not west.
Hi!
Nothing stops God's plan (when it is truly His plan).
If God is in it, and the funds did not come from one source, surely it would come from another.
God has unlimited resources and His ways of providing does not involve stress....or anxiety.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith and pierced themselves through with many sorrows"~ 1 Tim 6:10 KJV
How very sad. I really hope he gets nothing.
You would right except that she promised it and he went and put up money on her word to buy the land. AND the minister has a 3 hour recording to the facts that verify everything he says. So for once I actually believe this minister only because he has a 3 hr recording. And that will be held up in court and she will owe it a verbal contract is as good as a written contract especially with the recording she has no recourse. She bails out a drug dealer time and time again but to do some good she decides to go back on her word
So this Pastor is giving Maria 3 options- all starting from a million dollars & climbing. Tell you what Francis, if l was inclined to contribute towards your church, l would be purchasing the plot of land, you not going to hold any of the cash- end of story.Why on earth is he promising money to others when he himself has none?
Btw- is it not illegal to record someone without their consent?
Some states allow one sided agreement to record not for two party consent. Not sure about that state.
But are you not supposed to tell the person being recorded that you are or intent to record the conversation? Sounds like a sting operation on the part of the Man of the Cloth. Modern day Gehazi.
First off: God does not get frustrated or sue people when he does not get what he wants. Second: he does not need Money. Francis is acting independently. Francis is probably thinking that if Marie Holmes can shell out millions to bail " Hot Sauce" out- what stopping Pastor F from going after another $10 mil- easy come easy go. He could play the " Do you love Hot Sauce more than God?" What's holding you back girl?
SMH, from the sound of the recording Holmes sounds like someone easy to con, it sounded like she meant well. No one should be conned by anyone especially using religion. If he wasn't a pastor and a man claiming to be would your views change. She gave the church she attended money, is that not generous!?!? Let's also use rape to discuss what happened, if someone says yes to sex and the other gets frustrated because now the person is saying no. Should you be able to take someone to court for that. Just wow, when decides to hate nothing can change their idea of someone. Her money overall, her business!
They say lottery winners usually go backrupt within 2-5 years at the rate shes dropping Benjamins ($12 million on bail bonds, $700k on church donation, etc) Ms. Holmes will probably go penny less around 2016-17 and leave nothing for her poor kids.
A Priest, Pastor, and a Rabbi were sitting around discussing how they divide the take from each Sabbath.
The Priest said, "What I do is draw a line down the center of the room and then throw the money up in the air. Whatever lands on the left is God's, whatever lands on the right is mine."
The Preacher said, "Well I do almost the same thing only I draw a circle in the middle of the room. Whatever lands in the circle is mine and the rest belongs to God."
The Rabbi says, "No, you both are doing it wrong. I take the money and throw it up in the air. Then I yell, God, Take what you want!. Whatever comes back down is mine......."
Miss Holmes may be gullible to all the predators around her, fiance, the city, the pastor. So even if she ends up broke and penniless, may the Father be with her and give her peace as is, because money doesn't matter to him. She's probably much kinder than myself, because if I win no one would be able to reach me, not a soul! Her aunt said no to the pastor, and what a blessing it was, she revealed what a devil he truly is, even if he wins. A depressed pastor, an oxymoron!
She had better hold on to that cash, she is likely going to need to bail "Hot Sauce" outta jail......yet again!
Hope this SCAM artist rot in hell and Marie & "Hot Sauce" dance around heaven all day!
Doesn't matter what they agreed to unless it was signed and notarized in ink. Can't believe this is making news. Shame on the greedy pastor!
Have you never made an oral agreement with anyone?
For instance...If you win, you will split it 50/50 with me. Then you win and say you never made such an agreement!
The crazy thing is that he is trying to sue her directly. He was told by her accountant, not her, that the funds could be distributed once the foundation was established, pending information needed from the pastor. I'm assuming the foundation is some sort of donor-advised fund, which allows the executive director, board, staff. etc. to make decisions on behalf of Holmes, but it takes all responsibilities and liabilities from Holmes. If the foundation decides not to distribute the funds, they have that authority. Furthermore, the donations were pledged to the church, not the pastor. And like you said, it was for the purpose of the retreat (like your roof example), not to include the $200,000 the pastor promised to other people and ministries. This alone is reason for Holmes' foundation to reconsider the donations. A pledge is generally only legally binding if there's a contract and/or the organization suffers because of it not being fulfilled (In this situation, neither seem to be the case). The pastor has reason to be upset, and I don't doubt that he has emotional distress from this (especially considering he's already promised the money to others--he's probably super embarrassed, but that's on him). But there's nothing here that will stand in court.
Any attorneys in the LP Community ???
True or Not True ??? ...
In some states, you can't submit a recording as evidence of a verbal contract, if the person being recorded did not know he/she was being recorded.
The article clearly states, "On the last few minutes of the recording, Perry can be heard stating, "Well, I appreciate you allowing me to call and spend this amount of time with you this morning. I'm going to go ahead and email you as soon as we hang up. Just reply to that. I'm going to ask for a few things — if you just get that to me at your leisure.""
If these things were not given or contained information that sent red flags or would cause any liability to the foundation, the foundation could take back it's pledge. For example, they wanted to see financial statements, and the statements showed significant misuse of funds. Another example--they want to see a budget and plan (which may be why the pastor talked to real estate professionals), and the budget/plans did not match the requested donation.
A recording, especially if one party is unaware they are being recorded, is not legally bonding in many, many cases.
This pastor sought out this lottery winner solely because she was a lottery winner and then ingratiates himself into her life by "praying" with some family members; what he learned during these prayer sessions is that he had come across someone who was easily manipulated which he then set about to exploit. Watch out for false prophets, they come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. Three hour recording- more manipulation on his part to bolster his case should he not succeed in his exploitative plot. Despicable actions by this "pastor".
I agree. He is a hustler, liar and thief. And I have a LOT of questions for this guy:
What is the name of the church were he is a supposed 'pastor'?
Where is his congregation??
Who the hell needs a 3 hour conversation to hear "the foundation will be set up by the end of the year and they will review your request at that time"?? Sounds like he was trying to wear her accountant out and just jaw-jackin' to hear himself speak.
Why is he dealing directly with Marie Holmes, who is not a member of his church?
This is a con job, plain and simple. If I was Pastor Kevin Matthews, I would be very careful. "Hot Sauce" probably knows a lot of thugs (in and out of jail) who could make shark poop out of this guy if he doesn't back off. The ocean is a BIG place and he would never be heard from again.
Lol
Oh, and I would think that there would be a lot more stress and anxiety sitting with a dying member of your congregation, than people asking about the property you said you were going to buy.
Of course, it could be that a Bookie is threatening to break his leg (or worse) if he doesn't pay up on his Superbowl bet. That would make me feel stressed out and anxious...
I do NOT ever make oral agreements about lottery winnings or promise anything to anyone.
I did NOT read anywhere in the oral agreement how long she has to pay this $10 million, she could pay a penny a day till it's paid off, that's why oral agreements in court aren't good enough and him being a pastor is going to get him tossed out of the church by the board for bringing all this negative attention to the church. God's teaching goes against what this pastor is all about!
And like someone else mentioned, she could purchase the land for the church and keep it in her own name for tax purposes. This pastor think he's going to benefit from her riches and live like the tv pastors with the big cathedral churches that holds 1000s of people and drive fancy Bentleys, Caddilacs and Mercedes.
Can't wait to see the update on this one esp with the pastor, I'm sure he'll withdraw this lawsuit before he gets thrown out..lol
I'm not a lawyer/attorney but I was a paralegal years ago and in my State it is against the law to record someone without their knowledge but only if it's via phone where you must get consent first. It's perfectly legal to record a person under Ohio's revised code 2933.51 like on a public street or public place without consent where no privacy is expected.
Maria and the pastor's situation took place at the church which was a personal and private meeting and can fall under the wiretapping law - he could be facing criminal and civil charges should Marie and her lawyer choose to go that route.
I don't know the laws in N.C. but if it's anything comparable to Ohio then I think he will withdraw his lawsuit if this was recorded without her consent. The $10 million will be the least of his problems and he will find himself having to defend lawsuits from Marie.
She has the money to get a very competent lawyer and I would never try going up against someone that has that kind of money that would be able to counter sue me for everything I have. He would be a fool to continue on with the lawsuit.
LO L@ At her pastor kneeling and praying at her property. Wasn't the image I was expecting. Someone please give him a drink, he's very thirsty!
She has the money to hire the best attorneys in the world out there and it is time she sits down and does this. First sue this con man into the Stone Age and then sue the county she is in for gouging her on bail for her no good boyfriend while simultaneously kicking him out of her life too.
Can an oral agreement be binding, sure but I imagine it is about 50 million times harder to enforce than a written and signed contract which is why written and signed contracts exist. In addition as others have stated it is highly unlikely that she knew she was being recorded so that would probably get tossed out in a court case anyway and finally I imagine her attorney would argue that she is unsophisticated with regards to finance and was unaware of what this guy was doing. This "pastor" should truly be arrested for fraud.
If what Marie Holmes said is true about her money being tied up in bonds, then she really is loosing her butt. Bonds, along with everything else, have lost tremendously in the past quarter.
What a leech, going after 10M now after the supposed agreement was for 1.5M.
Lol, this is one of the first things came to my mind when I heard about it. She probably ain't that lottery winner you want to be hustling. Preacher man be found floating face down by some old dude fishing...
I'm not a lawyer either but I've seen many contract cases argued in our Supreme Court on PBS and they've said for there to be contract between parties all must receive some benefits. Simply saying I have the rights to spend someone else money isn't a contract except between marriaged people maybe. It would be like a preacher suing his church members for tithing less than 10% of their income.
This SOB preacher should not only lose his suit but go to jail for even filing such a suit which is an abuse of religious freedom.
Hello! Holmes, This is your money and you didn't have to share a dam penny .And it is bad luck to give your money away.That was
Greed.Besides Ms. Holmes gave the Church $700 ,000.00: Boy Oh. Boy. What a mess. From a so call man of God. Preacher
Man you mess up Let it go .You will look like a greedy fool.
God knows that this pastor{small p} is a con artist. Now Ms Holmes needs to put some of that money into investigating and exposing this dumbass masquerading as a man of God. I have a funny feeling that NC thinks that this girl{woman} is some kind of ATM. More reason why you should keep your mouth shut when you win the lottery. Anonymity Rocks.
So.... they stop her from giving money to a pastor but not from bailing out hot sauce.
I don't think she owes the pastor anything...i do believe he sought her out because she is a lottery winner.
I just find the choices made here very interesting.
Verbal contracts generally aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
This is one of those preachers who want you to give your soul to Jesus, but make the check out to them.
Interesting a lot of you saying Verbal contracts generally aren't worth anything, has to be signed on paper and notarized, yada yada yada, but did we forget the recent story of a retired teacher and her boyfriend with the oral agreement and she had to pay money based on he said she said?
In a recent interview, Pastor Matthews said, "God led him to her house and he prayed with her."
I wonder who all the other con artists say leads them to the homes of large jackpot prize winners?
These types of comments really p!$$ me off.
She already gave her church $700,000 and you're actually going to judge her for not wanting to have any dealings with this Pharisee? You think because he passed a theology course he's entitled to someone else's money?
She started her own foundation to help people so obviously she wants to do good.
He's on record as saying she never promised him any money. A person should be able to say, "hey, that retreat sounds like a great idea. I'd love to get involved. Let me have my accountant go over the particulars with you" and if after scrutinizing all the details realize they don't actually want to hand over millions of dollars to a greedy, unhinged, entitled, self-righteous, devious charlatan, how exactly is that a bad thing?
People like you have a lot to say about how lottery winners throw away their money on nonsense, but then still complain when they don't.
LO L I agree! That's why I don't think this is going to go too far. I can't wait to see Marie's attorney scare the robe off this fraudulent pastor.
They stopped her from giving money to him...assuming it was ever promised in the first place. They never stopped her from giving $700,000 to the church. Nor did they stop her from starting a foundation to help others. Seems to me that other than bail money wasted, the choices they made were good and legitimate ones. I don't get why people are acting as if giving money to this con artist is better than bailing out Hot Sauce. While I would leave him in jail, I get that she does have a biological, emotional and psychological bond with the guy, so she feels obligated to help him. Why draw parallels between that and throwing money away on a stranger who is so obviously a huckster?
Great points, more people should take note.
Statute of frauds
Marie has shown by her behavior that she is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Standing outside the store showing a reporter the ticket before she turned it in. Bailing out her last baby daddy 3 times. Who knows what else she's done for people that hasn't made the news. This POS realized that and decided to try to take advantage of her.
I wonder how much money she has left. She's going to stay in Shalotte until she is broke because she isn't sensible enough to leave and make a better life somewhere else for herself and her children. A lot of people are happy she won the lottery.
I am puzzled because when "hotsauce" let this preacher in to pray, was he not standing there when he asked for $1-2million from Marie? He should have whooped his butt then.
Classic example of not following these rules!!!
I think Pastor's cheese has slid off his cracker. So wrong in so many ways, Shame Shame Shame@!!!
At least he isn't claiming she agreed to buy him a G6.
AS I said ... she doesn't "owe" this pastor anything...nor anyone else. If he happened to meet her and felt directed to pray for her that's all good but I would say that he overstepped a boundary when he asked her for money. Also, I have no doubt that he sought her out because of the lottery win. In my opinion she also should of received counsel from family after the 2nd and definitely before the 3rd bail out. My "choices" comment concerned the bail money only.
We all here keep saying it, but lottery winners just don't listen: DON'T DO PUBLICITY, DON'T TELL ANYONE. It attracts every con man, grifter & flim flam man... yes, some of them are pastors as well...
When she first won, you would think she was the most deserve person to win the lottery because of how she was talking . I see this was coming, but what i didn't see is how dumb she was to bail a drug dealer not once and not twice, but four times. I guess it is right to say that she's going to be poor again in a couple years to come. At this rate of stupidity, its impossible she won't be broke . but I hope that don't happen . only a fool who had nothing would come to so much money that he or she don't even earn and to blow it. I'm just patiently waiting my turn so I can finally fix this stupidity thing of lottery winner gone broke and stuff. I'm gonna win the lottery soon and Im going to Inspire many people.
Beginning to think that if you win the lottery you should release a public statement right there and then stating:
"I'm not giving any of you anything, don't ask me, don't call me, don't come within 50ft of me, if my pitbull doesn't get you, a bullet will. I don't care what I told you or you think I told you, I am saying it right now, no one is getting any of my money, have a good day."
Exactly! Best advice!
Great!
Like Tammy Faye and Jim Bakker of the PTL (Praise The Lord) club they only think of money and themselves. The good news though is that assuming that their God truly does exist He will surely punish them for their deeds on earth when their time comes for atonement. This pastor also will atone for his sins on the day of judgement assuming he is making all this up. Hopefully there are no witnesses to her ever promising him the money and hopefully her lawyer is tough and simply tells him and/or his lawyer where they can stick it.
she gave the church $700k n Dec Wat more does he want something is better then nothing. Then How u ask for $1.5m but suing for $10m where is God in that.. He is the devil and only trying to get money for self not the church
"but to do some good she decides to go back on her word" You do realize she has tithe/given to her her church also we do not know if she has given to any other charities. SMH
Well said Teddi
She gave $700,000 to HER church (I think to build a sanctuary). She did not know this grifter before she won the lottery.
Someone should sue him for running a Ponzi scheme. He should change his last name to "Offering" or "Loot".
As far as the 3 hour recording; unless I missed something no part of that recording cited that she would give 1.5 million to this dirtbag. I only read that she would like to help.
If you ask me he is using this as an excuse to backslide, fall of the wagon and increase his drug use.
God didn,t lead matthews to marie,s home.The devil did.I know marie now regrets going public with her win.If ur in a state were u have to go in front of cameras
u can go incognito. A mask r something.
NC only requires one party's consent to record any conversation, be it in person or by phone. This means, among other things, that you can lawfully record any conversation in which you are a participant, without the consent of the other person.
"NC only requires one party's consent to record any conversation, be it in person or by phone."
How do you know this for certain??? Are you a licensed attorney in the state of North Carolina yourself ???
As soon as I read that the pastor was led to Marie Homes home to pray with her, that was enough for me. All it was about was to scam her out of her lottery money! I don't know why there isn't some law that would state that oral agreements would not be allowed in state lotteries! I've stated this before. Another court case, of " He said she said " Ridiculous.
This sort of thing is fairly easy to find; I Googled your yellow highlighted text:
North Carolina Recording Law
North Carolina's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. North Carolina makes it a crime to intercept or record any "wire, oral, or electronic communication" unless one party to the conversation consents. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 15A-287. Thus, if you operate in North Carolina, you may record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from one party to the conversation in advance. That said, if you intend to record conversations involving people located in more than one state, you should play it safe and get the consent of all parties.
I read the entire story and in my heart I believe that the Preacher set her up so he can get hands on Holmes money too. She won that money and he started then plotting on how he can get rich from her money. He ask for 2 million, why he wants to sue for 10 million. One thing I think is that he wants the rest to put in his pocket.
Pastor Kevin 'DEE DEE MOORE' Matthews. 'Nuff said.
As much as I want to see Hot Sauce out of her life, it may be possible that Marie isn't dead at the hands of Pastor DeeDee here because he's afraid of Hot Sauce. His comments sound like a person who has some screws loose. He's one of those nutjobs who would kill her and say God told him to do it because she wasn't using the money properly.
Not for nothing but as soon as I read the headline the thought ran through my head that either she or the money is cursed. I can't remember any other lottery winner going through so much is such a short period of time. Has there been a month she hasn't made news?
Not only did she not say she would give him $1.5 million, she wasn't even on the recording. This wasn't a Ponzi scheme. There was no investment and no pretense of getting any money back. This is a straight up con job.
Marie obviously has strong ties to her church. Even if she wasn't a black woman in the south, her church connections were obvious from her first public statements. Easy pickings for a con man with a theology degree. A woman like that is going to be respectful to any man of the cloth and far more susceptible to pressure to give him money than to any off-the-street stranger.
First of all, I wouldn't give shate . she a woman she soft that's why . I would say folk every one except my close family member
"This sort of thing is fairly easy to find"
Have you ever noticed that "fairly easy" is far too difficult for an awful lot of people?
People of his ilk live high on the hog by convincing others to give them at least 10% of their earnings in return for "salvation" in which they will never get. Sounds like a ponzi scheme to me...
The guy is a parasite whose entire business plan involves preying on gullible people. His claim that god speaks to him means one of two things:
1, He's lying.
2, He's schizophrenic.
Moron Sicko! Misusing religion for own greed - sick sick sick dude - trying to get $1.5M out of an online $50 degree so call pastor - nice! your sick seed is busting! Dear Marie - you really need to move away from all these sickos and be good to yourself and your own kids woman.
First thing. Pastor Matthews , had problems to begin with. He said him self. "I had to start taking more medicine for anxiety & depression due to this situation." You said More, which mean you are all ready on this type of medicine to begin with." Nothing when along with your plan as a easy con. Anybody that goes to church can tell you this "GOD" isn't in the mist of confusion. He the problem solver.You problem is in side of you. You need to chance your thinking. The true is you jump the gun. The stress of making promises you couldn't keep is really becoming a burden that depressing you and fill you with anxiety. Pride will not let you admit you when about this all the wrong way. Second thing. You talk to the accountant for [3] hours. Dexter Perry. *[key words underline.] They are in the process of getting the Holmes Foundation set up. It should be up & running by the end of the year. Marie wants to do something, but we want to do it the correct way. This man just try to be nice to you & try calm you down. You were all ready in hot water. You don't have any money to put down on the land so it could be held for church project. People can talk about what they need or what they want all day long. Until you put your money where your mouth is, in your case pastor on the table that is it just talk. The last thing. You choice of words are conflicting. You did said "GOD" led you to her. [I don't believe "GOD" is in the middle of this confusion.]When Carmel Wheaten asked you, point blank. "Did she promise it to you?" You said, I got caught up with trying to be truthful & you said she didn't use the word promise." This sound like man. Men get caught up in lies & deception. When it something "GOD" really want you to do. He just waits for you to say your willing to do what he asked you do. When God is doing the leading & guiding, God's plans don't fail. There is not one place in the bible were God fail. Not in anything he planned. This is looking like your plan not his.
I always thought that "Religious People" did not agree with any type of gambling?
Leave the woman alone, she won it, you or I did not. And she could do whatever she wants with her winnings.
GOD does NOT talk to people and tell people to contact lottery winners [complete strangers], and request 1.5 Million Dollars to build a Retreat !!! It is absolutely incredible how often people get their own EGO confused with "GOD TALKING" , especially so called Preachers !!!
Salvation and being Saved is a gift from God. You cannot buy your way into Heaven. Jesus paid the price for you on the cross.
Yep I was thinking the same thing when I read this last week.
I AM IN FULL AGREEMENT! This pastor is serving the devil and greed has filled him up. Guilt-giving is a sin and so is putting pressure on someone to give up their $$. Shame on you pastor! You're just like the tv charlatans who pose as pastors and are only interested in milking your viewers. The hottest spots in the Lake of Fire are reserved for your kind.
So true, she doesn't owe him anything and it is her money to do what she wants to with it.