7 arrested in Georgia Lottery winner's murder

Mar 29, 2016, 9:05 am (87 comments)

Georgia Lottery

FITZGERALD, GA — Seven people were charged Monday in the shooting death of a lottery winner more than two months ago.

The arrests were all made after a lengthy investigation into Craigory Burch Jr.'s death.

The former forklift driver hit the $434,272 instant prize from the Georgia Lottery when he matched all five numbers from the Nov. 29, 2015 Fantasy 5 drawing.

Six of the seven are in custody in the Ben Hill County Jail. One remaining suspect is in custody in Colquitt County.

Two of the suspects are women, Rosalyn Swain, 22, of Fitzgerald, and Keyona Dyous, 24, of Moultrie.

The others are Earnest Holcomb, 27, of Fitzgerald, 17-year-old Wayan Jordan, of Fitzgerald who will be charged as an adult, Dabrentis Overstreet, 19, of Tifton, Nathaniel Baker, 28, of Moultrie, and Anjavell Johnson, 21, of Tifton.

All are charged with malice murder, armed robbery, aggravated assault, and possession of firearm during the commission of the crime.

Authorities believe three masked people stormed in the home on Stubbs Avenue in the late hours of Jan. 20, intent on Burch's recent lottery winnings.

(See Georgia Lottery winner killed during home invasion, Lottery Post, Jan. 21, 2016.)

Burch was shot several times and died at the scene.

The District Attorney's office has not released how the some of the suspects fit in this crime, and who acted in what capacity. The investigation is ongoing.

The arrests come after weeks of investigating since the crime, and receiving national media attention.

Investigators said Burch's girlfriend, Jasmine Hendricks, was in the home at the time and ran for help. A shotgun blast blew open the door and three masked, armed men ran in, she said.

"When they came in, he said, 'Don't do it, bro. Don't do it in front of my kids,'" Hendricks recalled. "'Please don't do it in front of my kids and old lady. Please don't do that, bro. Please don't.' He said, 'I'll give you my bank card.'"

Hendricks said Burch then threw his pants to the robbers, who looked for but couldn't find his wallet.

The intruders then shot and killed Burch before running away.

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Thanks to hearsetrax and konane for the tip.

WALB, Lottery Post Staff

Comments

Tommy529's avatarTommy529

Sad hope they get the death penalty that's why winners shouldn't be announced by there real names oh and leave then alone let them enjoy there money crazy world we live in money evil but have to have it to live other wise just paper with a number people kill over I think people with money are always hunted by the whales of this world classified killer whales and the ones with the money are the dolphins sad sad

wendy67's avatarwendy67

This is such a sad story to me. Im thankful they caught the killers and I hope justice is served. Most are so young. I didnt know the victim but I know his family. His father and family are long time friends of mine and I hope these arrests help them some. At least now someone is being held accountable.

MzDuffleBaglady's avatarMzDuffleBaglady

HoLeeKau's avatarHoLeeKau

Stupid stupid criminals.  He won less than half a million.  What is that, 300K after taxes?  And they thought it would be worth murdering a guy to split whatever he hadn't spent among SIX of them?  WTH! 

Wonder if this was more out of jealousy and spite than for the money?

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

His children have an angel looking down on them. It's just despicable that they shot him after he offered to give them his bank card. I have absolutely no empathy for these savages and hope they face the full brunt of the law. My deepest sympathy to his family and may he rest in peace.

TheMeatman2005's avatarTheMeatman2005

I bet their parents are saying they were all good kids.

Did they think they wouldn't get caught?

lejardin's avatarlejardin

If the shotgun blast through the door didnt traumatize the children, seeing the man murdered right before their eyes after he begged them, will be forever etched in their minds, so tragic.  Inhumane animals are lower than whale s#%^.   

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

alive today,cause its illegal to hunt them for sport

Thinking of...

dr65's avatardr65

Slum. Look at their photo's. Who says you can't judge a book by its cover? I hope they

shed some real tears every night even if its for themselves. These people need to hurt.

Their arrogance that is clearly displayed in the photos needs to be stripped from them,

if the court can't do it, I hope someone is waiting for them who can. Rot in hell.

The victim looked as if he might've had a past but he had kids who will harden just like 

these murderers if someone is not very careful, patient, loving and protective of them.

Prayers for the children, that's it.

Get paid's avatarGet paid

Good job,now life in prison for the robbers.

thomasgibson

The Georgia legislature has refused to approve a bill (SB179) sponsored by McKoon of the 21st and Henson of the 41st districts respectively.  Several states allow lottery winners to receive their lottery winnings in anonymity. Not publishing the name of the winners would not adversely affect the sale of lottery tickets.  This is the specious argument put forth by the Georgia lottery.  I would not want to open my family to the unwanted attention that comes with winning a large amount of money.  Some people want others to know that they now have access to thousands or millions of dollars and others do not.  I am in the latter category.  SB 179 or a version of it has been put forth several times but the legislature has refused to give it an up vote.  Twenty-five percent of my winnings is a small price to pay for anonymity.  Death on the other hand is a bigger price to pay.  Life beats death every time. It is time for the people of Georgia to demand that they have a choice of publicity or anonymity if and when they win the BIG MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

It is a shame that this young man lost his life in this way.  More people in the minority community play the lottery and have fewer options when it comes to "good"

advise when it comes to money matters.  A windfall from the lottery is instant wealth and no knowledge as to how to manage it.  A "fool"and his/her money will soon part (See story of women in North Carolina with a stupid boy friend) but Mr. Burch was no fool.  He was the victim of a horrible crime. I do not know what his conduct was after he won the lottery but give us  the option of being a "fool" by talking about our new found wealth or being a wise man/woman by claiming our winnings in anonymity. Do not let Georgians read about another horrible death and winning the lottery. (See story on Abraham Shakespeare)

Uneek1's avatarUneek1

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Mar 29, 2016

alive today,cause its illegal to hunt them for sport

Thinking of...

Why would you want to hunt a human for sport?... God bless your soul!! Otoh: Such a sad story. May his soul rest in peace!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Will the BlackLivesMatter folks protest this killing?  Yea that's what I thought.  Put me on that jury! Mad

sully16's avatarsully16

Throw away the key.

Deo-nonfortuna

Looks like a bad hair day.

 

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Nikkicute's avatarNikkicute

Quote: Originally posted by Deo-nonfortuna on Mar 29, 2016

Looks like a bad hair day.

 

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Hoodrats and BumThugs!!

Who were going to spend that money they tried to steal on what, investments?

Throw away the key!!

Lottery Playa

Where's "Black Lives Matter" when you need 'em... 

Think's avatarThink

The lottery likes publishing the names of the winners because they want potential customers to know that real people get murdered when they win the lottery!

Knowing that you are going to get killed when you win is good for ticket sales say lottery spokespersons.

Anonymity is bad because it will decrease sales!

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Think on Mar 29, 2016

The lottery likes publishing the names of the winners because they want potential customers to know that real people get murdered when they win the lottery!

Knowing that you are going to get killed when you win is good for ticket sales say lottery spokespersons.

Anonymity is bad because it will decrease sales!

I don't agree with publishing the names, but something tells me this guy was bragging all over the place, more than likely in all the wrong places.  Lesson learned....Keep it to yourselves.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Nikkicute on Mar 29, 2016

Hoodrats and BumThugs!!

Who were going to spend that money they tried to steal on what, investments?

Throw away the key!!

Key?   Six 45 ACP rounds cost about two bucks.  Why should we continue to let scum like this take innocent lives then support them in a prison environment for X number of years until they eventually get released only to do it again?

bainboy

I wonder if the girlfriend is involved? Something does not seem right with this story but happy to know that his children are safe despite their traumatic ordeal!

zephbe's avatarzephbe

Quote: Originally posted by HoLeeKau on Mar 29, 2016

Stupid stupid criminals.  He won less than half a million.  What is that, 300K after taxes?  And they thought it would be worth murdering a guy to split whatever he hadn't spent among SIX of them?  WTH! 

Wonder if this was more out of jealousy and spite than for the money?

I Agree!

ekem6078's avatarekem6078

I Agree!

music*'s avatarmusic*

 This why we must support State prosecutors. They must work to prove that these people are guilty when the law says they are innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. The Universities and law schools produce future State and county prosecutors.

 Then we must keep the innocents safe from criminals by paying for prisons.

 What is missing in these suspects lives? Why did they turn out like this?

 Should Gregory Burch have been armed to defend himself and his family? The cops are not next door ready to respond to your 911 call. You need time for the cops to get to you and save you. 

 Why do the majority of blacks support the Second Amendment? To protect themselves  Why did Hitler take away all the guns? Learn the lesson of the Jews in Nazi-occupied Europe.

 Please do not give away The Bill of Rights.

DG1USA

My heart goes out to the family of Mr. Burch Jr.

My head wants those slime balls to pay big time.

ohiopick3's avatarohiopick3

Here is a song lyric from one of my favorite past artists: Joe Zawinul from the Jazz Group "Weather Report" and "The Zawinul Sydicate".

This is a few lyrics from his CD "Black Water" from The Zawinul Syndicate song on "Black Water" 1989.

"Freedom is more precious than diamonds,

Justice more treasured than gold,

When you see the faces of children, Tell me what you feel in your soul.

Black and white is not the question, Just a matter of wrong or right.

When the bullets fall like raindrops, Where are you going to hide.

If we can't live together, There's going to be nasty weather."

from the song "Black Water" The Joe Zawinul Syndicate 1989.

Sad for the Burch's Family. What were these people thinking?

Hope they catch the last person. And all go to prison for life!

Just terrible to read these things about lottery winners.

Groppo's avatarGroppo

I had prepared a lengthy comment to post, but I fear it would have gone mostly unread.

I'm a white man. And I refuse to have black friends or acquaintances, because of this story, which is nothing new to me.

It wasn't always like that, but now, since my last black acquaintance died due to asthma complications a few years ago,  I'm finally "freed".  No more black association. NONE.

And the lottery winner in this story looks to be of the same ilk as the thugs.  He just wound up on the wrong end of the situation, carried out, in a careless manner, by these hoodlums.

RedStang's avatarRedStang

Those mug shots look like a ghetto version of the Brady Bunch.

Optimist Prime

I feel so so sorry for this man's family. He won a lottery and low life dirtbags thought it was a good idea to kill him for what? They didn't get any money. These people are what prison's are made for. They need to be taken out of society till they turn to dirt. It won't fix all the ills nah, but they won't be able to do it again.

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by RedStang on Mar 30, 2016

Those mug shots look like a ghetto version of the Brady Bunch.

majestic1070's avatarmajestic1070

It's such a sad story but he had to let them know he won the lottery. I'm not saying it's right but nowadays you have to be careful who you let in your in your world because everybody doesn't have your best interest especially when come into money.

Funtimz's avatarFuntimz

For the real news on this story you need to go to websleuths not on this site where nothing but judgemental name calling is being posted.

Deo-nonfortuna

I was thinking the same thing. It also looks like the ghetto Hollywood squares.

 

Those mug shots look like a ghetto version of the Brady Bunch.

Albeone

Quote: Originally posted by Funtimz on Mar 30, 2016

For the real news on this story you need to go to websleuths not on this site where nothing but judgemental name calling is being posted.

After reading some of these comments I would have to agree. Can't even go on a lottery site without a couple dumb redneck bigots talking out their ass, basically blaming the victim of this crime with preconceived notions  of his character coming from the echo chamber in their heads.

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by Albeone on Mar 30, 2016

After reading some of these comments I would have to agree. Can't even go on a lottery site without a couple dumb redneck bigots talking out their ass, basically blaming the victim of this crime with preconceived notions  of his character coming from the echo chamber in their heads.

Skeptical so sez the other "_____" hiding behind a blank profile

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

I have had the privilege of working with some African American guys over the years, whom I have tremendous respect for. They did not look or act anything like the suspects in the picture. Quoting Martin Luther King, it's judging a person by their character. I can look at those dudes in the picture and most definitely judge them as drug-induced animals. I said in a post in a previous article about this that I believed drugs were in involved and I got raked being called a racist. Well, look real good at all of of them. NOT their color. Their faces. How they are dressed. Their hair. We see the same thing on the news every day. Just different cities. Different people, but the same crime, every day.

And, I echo the question by others posting before me. Why is it Black Lives Matter has not been heard from about this crime? Why hasn't Black Lives Matter protested, marched, and, oh yes, rioted (lets call it what it is) over this killing in cold blood, in front of children, no less?

I too, hope and pray those children do not turn out like the guys that killed their father. And that they can recover from the trauma from seeing such a crime.

Groppo's avatarGroppo

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Groppo's avatarGroppo

Quote: Originally posted by Funtimz on Mar 30, 2016

For the real news on this story you need to go to websleuths not on this site where nothing but judgemental name calling is being posted.

Well first of all, look who is being spoken about.
Do the majority of the 7 people in the photo look like normal people?

Everything from hair-dos to facial expressions, to why they're in the photograph in the first place, to knowing what we all know of what they're capable.

How did they learn all those behaviors?

Now, if we were to bet how many of the males shown in the mug shots routinely go around with their pants below their under-wears, how would you answer? My answer would be:
"One is too many and disrespects the decency of the majority of the whites." 

When will that rude practice of the blacks stop? And don't tell me it's a black thing. If that's a black thing, then go to Africa, where the decent people don't have to see that. Plenty of room over there, for that.

It's not the major, degrading, and tasteless behavior over here. Some men even walk around naked there.
Perhaps that would interest some of the youngsters in the photo?
Doesn't mean we want it over here.

I can't even walk into the local casino here, because I'm one of very few whites that wants to go there.
If something happens, and I remain alive, I'll likely be told "Well, you had no business in a black area".
But, it's mostly a white town!

That casino has been known for murders/robberies and the like. And that's just the day time.

And, by the way, have a good time, while your reading your own "real news".
Personally, I've had enough of blacks' antics, in this world.

I bet you're NOT laughing/giggling/chuckling now.

===================================

  • Don't chase the numbers you play.
  • Play only numbers you've already played, plus however many random picks.
  • But, ALWAYS the regular numbers you play.  This will make you a winner, not a chaser.
Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Mar 29, 2016

I don't agree with publishing the names, but something tells me this guy was bragging all over the place, more than likely in all the wrong places.  Lesson learned....Keep it to yourselves.

My thoughts exactly; loose lips sink ships as my late Mum would say.

Groppo's avatarGroppo

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Mar 29, 2016

I don't agree with publishing the names, but something tells me this guy was bragging all over the place, more than likely in all the wrong places.  Lesson learned....Keep it to yourselves.

What's a "wrong place" in Georgia, in the part where everyone's black?

Murderers and victims alike?

KY Floyd's avatarKY Floyd

"Why hasn't Black Lives Matter protested, marched, and, oh yes, rioted (lets call it what it is) over this killing in cold blood"

This guy wasn't killed by the police.

As soon as he was killed it was treated as a criminal act.

The prosecutor in this case is going to work hard to get an indictment, and then work hard to get a conviction.

Anyone who can't figure out the answer to your question either has a remarkable ability to not know what's going on, or is a moron.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on Mar 30, 2016

"Why hasn't Black Lives Matter protested, marched, and, oh yes, rioted (lets call it what it is) over this killing in cold blood"

This guy wasn't killed by the police.

As soon as he was killed it was treated as a criminal act.

The prosecutor in this case is going to work hard to get an indictment, and then work hard to get a conviction.

Anyone who can't figure out the answer to your question either has a remarkable ability to not know what's going on, or is a moron.

I was aware of that when I posted. My point is that Black Lives Matter really dont care about black lives. If they did they would speak up about their "bros" murdering blacks. There are far more black on black murders than black shootings by cops.

mrbg's avatarmrbg

Quote: Originally posted by Groppo on Mar 29, 2016

I had prepared a lengthy comment to post, but I fear it would have gone mostly unread.

I'm a white man. And I refuse to have black friends or acquaintances, because of this story, which is nothing new to me.

It wasn't always like that, but now, since my last black acquaintance died due to asthma complications a few years ago,  I'm finally "freed".  No more black association. NONE.

And the lottery winner in this story looks to be of the same ilk as the thugs.  He just wound up on the wrong end of the situation, carried out, in a careless manner, by these hoodlums.

What a ignorant thing to say.

Illinoisdreamer

This really isn't a case to me that can be blamed on lack of anonymity

From all indications it is likely his openness about good fortune including charitable purchases around holiday that drew attention of these individuals

Also for this thread ,, There is good and bad in every community

Was the murderer of Abraham Shakeseare not a white women? A very manly looking one at that

Seems to me those commenting with some of the racial stuff have very little interaction with black community to begin with and draw all there conclusions based on mugshots and news stories

I live in a poor area that is predominantly black ,, Its not a good area but generally most people around are decent and just trying to get thru life. The scum simply stick out because of the violent/criminal acts that gain them notoriety

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Illinoisdreamer on Mar 30, 2016

This really isn't a case to me that can be blamed on lack of anonymity

From all indications it is likely his openness about good fortune including charitable purchases around holiday that drew attention of these individuals

Also for this thread ,, There is good and bad in every community

Was the murderer of Abraham Shakeseare not a white women? A very manly looking one at that

Seems to me those commenting with some of the racial stuff have very little interaction with black community to begin with and draw all there conclusions based on mugshots and news stories

I live in a poor area that is predominantly black ,, Its not a good area but generally most people around are decent and just trying to get thru life. The scum simply stick out because of the violent/criminal acts that gain them notoriety

Very true. It doesn't excuse the hood rats for killing him, but he should have kept it quiet.

myturn's avatarmyturn

It is terrible, but sadly I am not surprised. Publicly attracts trouble, all state lotteries should allow winners the option to remain anonymous.

Even strong-willed can feel enormous pressure to "help" family and friends. While it can start reasonable at first,  it can deteriorate. Many winners have gone broke "helping" other.

State governments should address this issue or we will see more such cases.

CARBOB

Quote: Originally posted by on Apr 25, 2024

You are completely, 110% wrong!!!!

dallascowboyfan's avatardallascowboyfan

Hopefully Georgia has the death penalty. This is so sad he begged them & offered them his debit card & they still killed him sorry SOB's. Rest in Heavenly Peace Craigory.

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by dallascowboyfan on Mar 31, 2016

Hopefully Georgia has the death penalty. This is so sad he begged them & offered them his debit card & they still killed him sorry SOB's. Rest in Heavenly Peace Craigory.

They do;  the State of Georgia executed five last year and two so far this year.  I think any of those 7 human stains who were there would definitely qualify for the DP, committing murder with one or more of the following aggravating circumstances as per Georgia statute:

Offender was in the process of committing another capital crime, aggravated battery, burglary, or arson.
Offender used or possessed a weapon or device capable of causing significant harm to more than one person simultaneously.
Offender committed offense for monetary gain.

dr65's avatardr65

They want the trigger guy. The rest will rat him out to save their own necks. If some go to

prison for a very long time, good. The accomplices who get off probably won't change too

much and will be lucky to see 30, or they'll get 30.

 

Seven people to split whatever the poor guy had left. He may have been a good guy, we don't know.

He sure does look like the bad guy type. Maybe that money was going to make big life changes

for him and his family, now it's in someone else's hands to decide what to do with it. I hope it's

good decisions that someone makes starting with the kids. Sometimes it's possible to shed a

stigma and a tag, they have the means and I hope they have the determination.

 

Someone said where is BLM? They aren't interested in things like this, there is no white or

hispanic or other ethnic individual or group to attack under the sham of protecting black lives.

BLM is a joke. They are violent, they are combative and the founders are as guilty as a redneck 

down south who attends secret kkk meetings in someone's barn in the woods. They invoke hatred,

bring unrest, use race to keep the marchers marching and the picketers picketing. They feed the

very people they are claiming to protect information and opinion that keeps blacks where some 

people - racists - think they should be...in a downward spiral of criminal acts, high school drop outs,

convicted and incarcerated, unmarried, children of different mothers/fathers and at a place with no

hope other than to continue a vicious cycle of failure from generation to generation.

 

Instead of emphasizing the small percentage of white on black atrocity and setting a stage where

participants and ringleaders look like a bunch of clowns trying to keep racism alive in the world, 

they need to take their own hoods off and do good for the people/race they claim to protect.

The founders who created this monster need to be thrown in jail. If not for creating civil unrest,

then for the twisted enabling of what's viewed as a black condition and crippling the rights

of a race of people to thrive and move forward. They need to stop being the problem and start

being the answer. That doesn't happen when you tell someone to hate. It doesn't happen either 

when when you fuel your followings fire by bringing attention to a few cases of very poor judgement

by using the race card. Stomp out racism...don't keep it alive by helping the few that are dead...

help the living by not using a negative message that does nothing for them except keep them at

a place that drowns hope, change and escape.

 

The leaders of this farce are comfortable and happy where they are, who else is happy? The rest

are just angry.

JAMORA's avatarJAMORA

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Apr 1, 2016

They want the trigger guy. The rest will rat him out to save their own necks. If some go to

prison for a very long time, good. The accomplices who get off probably won't change too

much and will be lucky to see 30, or they'll get 30.

 

Seven people to split whatever the poor guy had left. He may have been a good guy, we don't know.

He sure does look like the bad guy type. Maybe that money was going to make big life changes

for him and his family, now it's in someone else's hands to decide what to do with it. I hope it's

good decisions that someone makes starting with the kids. Sometimes it's possible to shed a

stigma and a tag, they have the means and I hope they have the determination.

 

Someone said where is BLM? They aren't interested in things like this, there is no white or

hispanic or other ethnic individual or group to attack under the sham of protecting black lives.

BLM is a joke. They are violent, they are combative and the founders are as guilty as a redneck 

down south who attends secret kkk meetings in someone's barn in the woods. They invoke hatred,

bring unrest, use race to keep the marchers marching and the picketers picketing. They feed the

very people they are claiming to protect information and opinion that keeps blacks where some 

people - racists - think they should be...in a downward spiral of criminal acts, high school drop outs,

convicted and incarcerated, unmarried, children of different mothers/fathers and at a place with no

hope other than to continue a vicious cycle of failure from generation to generation.

 

Instead of emphasizing the small percentage of white on black atrocity and setting a stage where

participants and ringleaders look like a bunch of clowns trying to keep racism alive in the world, 

they need to take their own hoods off and do good for the people/race they claim to protect.

The founders who created this monster need to be thrown in jail. If not for creating civil unrest,

then for the twisted enabling of what's viewed as a black condition and crippling the rights

of a race of people to thrive and move forward. They need to stop being the problem and start

being the answer. That doesn't happen when you tell someone to hate. It doesn't happen either 

when when you fuel your followings fire by bringing attention to a few cases of very poor judgement

by using the race card. Stomp out racism...don't keep it alive by helping the few that are dead...

help the living by not using a negative message that does nothing for them except keep them at

a place that drowns hope, change and escape.

 

The leaders of this farce are comfortable and happy where they are, who else is happy? The rest

are just angry.

POST OF THE DAY...

CARBOB

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Apr 1, 2016

They want the trigger guy. The rest will rat him out to save their own necks. If some go to

prison for a very long time, good. The accomplices who get off probably won't change too

much and will be lucky to see 30, or they'll get 30.

 

Seven people to split whatever the poor guy had left. He may have been a good guy, we don't know.

He sure does look like the bad guy type. Maybe that money was going to make big life changes

for him and his family, now it's in someone else's hands to decide what to do with it. I hope it's

good decisions that someone makes starting with the kids. Sometimes it's possible to shed a

stigma and a tag, they have the means and I hope they have the determination.

 

Someone said where is BLM? They aren't interested in things like this, there is no white or

hispanic or other ethnic individual or group to attack under the sham of protecting black lives.

BLM is a joke. They are violent, they are combative and the founders are as guilty as a redneck 

down south who attends secret kkk meetings in someone's barn in the woods. They invoke hatred,

bring unrest, use race to keep the marchers marching and the picketers picketing. They feed the

very people they are claiming to protect information and opinion that keeps blacks where some 

people - racists - think they should be...in a downward spiral of criminal acts, high school drop outs,

convicted and incarcerated, unmarried, children of different mothers/fathers and at a place with no

hope other than to continue a vicious cycle of failure from generation to generation.

 

Instead of emphasizing the small percentage of white on black atrocity and setting a stage where

participants and ringleaders look like a bunch of clowns trying to keep racism alive in the world, 

they need to take their own hoods off and do good for the people/race they claim to protect.

The founders who created this monster need to be thrown in jail. If not for creating civil unrest,

then for the twisted enabling of what's viewed as a black condition and crippling the rights

of a race of people to thrive and move forward. They need to stop being the problem and start

being the answer. That doesn't happen when you tell someone to hate. It doesn't happen either 

when when you fuel your followings fire by bringing attention to a few cases of very poor judgement

by using the race card. Stomp out racism...don't keep it alive by helping the few that are dead...

help the living by not using a negative message that does nothing for them except keep them at

a place that drowns hope, change and escape.

 

The leaders of this farce are comfortable and happy where they are, who else is happy? The rest

are just angry.

dr65,

This is one of the most truthful and powerful post, I have ever seen on LP. The color of your skin is not important, just your heart and soul. Two weeks ago, I spent 3 days with my son and his wife. My granddaughter, who is a teacher in Columbus, Ga. One night, after dinner, she and I had a conversation and she spoke some of your same words, about the Black kids, she teaches. Grandpa, she stated, if we teachers can't get thru to them, they don't have a chance of survival. So many of them, get no support or love from their fathers or mothers. She is my pride and joy.

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Apr 1, 2016

They want the trigger guy. The rest will rat him out to save their own necks. If some go to

prison for a very long time, good. The accomplices who get off probably won't change too

much and will be lucky to see 30, or they'll get 30.

 

Seven people to split whatever the poor guy had left. He may have been a good guy, we don't know.

He sure does look like the bad guy type. Maybe that money was going to make big life changes

for him and his family, now it's in someone else's hands to decide what to do with it. I hope it's

good decisions that someone makes starting with the kids. Sometimes it's possible to shed a

stigma and a tag, they have the means and I hope they have the determination.

 

Someone said where is BLM? They aren't interested in things like this, there is no white or

hispanic or other ethnic individual or group to attack under the sham of protecting black lives.

BLM is a joke. They are violent, they are combative and the founders are as guilty as a redneck 

down south who attends secret kkk meetings in someone's barn in the woods. They invoke hatred,

bring unrest, use race to keep the marchers marching and the picketers picketing. They feed the

very people they are claiming to protect information and opinion that keeps blacks where some 

people - racists - think they should be...in a downward spiral of criminal acts, high school drop outs,

convicted and incarcerated, unmarried, children of different mothers/fathers and at a place with no

hope other than to continue a vicious cycle of failure from generation to generation.

 

Instead of emphasizing the small percentage of white on black atrocity and setting a stage where

participants and ringleaders look like a bunch of clowns trying to keep racism alive in the world, 

they need to take their own hoods off and do good for the people/race they claim to protect.

The founders who created this monster need to be thrown in jail. If not for creating civil unrest,

then for the twisted enabling of what's viewed as a black condition and crippling the rights

of a race of people to thrive and move forward. They need to stop being the problem and start

being the answer. That doesn't happen when you tell someone to hate. It doesn't happen either 

when when you fuel your followings fire by bringing attention to a few cases of very poor judgement

by using the race card. Stomp out racism...don't keep it alive by helping the few that are dead...

help the living by not using a negative message that does nothing for them except keep them at

a place that drowns hope, change and escape.

 

The leaders of this farce are comfortable and happy where they are, who else is happy? The rest

are just angry.

indeed, you are a wise and powerful speaker.

but sadly enough, your words will fall upon deaf ears and blind eyes of a given majority who can't bring them self to believing a given truth

 

I like, Dr King I have the same dream and I look forward to the day we all learn to get along and work together without having to wonder

Groppo's avatarGroppo

Quote: Originally posted by mrbg on Mar 30, 2016

What a ignorant thing to say.

Really?  I think actions speak louder than words.

What's really ignorant is getting oneself locked up for murder with all the accomplices.

Deo-nonfortuna

Quote: Originally posted by on Apr 25, 2024

This is annual crime data complied by the FBI in 2012 from Wiki. Although I agree with u regarding some bigoted comments here were uncalled for. Ur crime data has serious logical flaws. Blacks commit crime more than twice as Whites by % of population. Whites commit more hate-related crimes than any other races. U gotta remember about 73% of Americans are White, so Whites do commit more overall crime than any other races, no one should be surprised by this. Most criminals in China are probably Chinese.

 

Year White Black American
Indian
Asian or
Pacific Islander
2012 6,502,919 2,640,067 135,165 112,322
As a % of Population[26][better source needed][27] 223,553,265 (2.91%) 38,929,319 (6.78%) 2,932,248 (4.61%) 15,214,265 (0.738%)
% of Total Crime 69.3% 28.1% 1.4% 1.2%

Arrested offenders by race (2012)[24]

Year Male Female Male (%) Female (%)
2012 6,972,023 2,474,637 73.8 26.2

Arrested offenders by gender (2012)[20]

Characteristics of offenders vary from the average for specific types of crimes and specific crimes. In terms of violent crime by gender, in 2011, 80.4% of arrested persons were male and 19.6% were female.[21] Males were 88.2% of those arrested for homicide, while females were 11.8%.[21] Among those arrested for rape in 2011, males were 98.8% and females were 1.2%.[21] For property crime in 2011, 62.9% of arrested persons were male and 37.1% were female.[21]

For violent crime by race in 2011, 59.4% of those arrested were white, 38.3% were black, and 2.2% were of other races.[25] For persons arrested for homicide in 2011, 49.7% were black, 48% were white, and 2.3% were of other races.[25] For persons arrested for rape in 2011, 65% were white, 32.9% were black, and 2.1% were of other races.[25] For property crime in 2011, 68.1% of arrested persons were white, 29.5% were black, and 2.4% were of other races.[25]

In 2011, law enforcement reported 6,222 bias-motivated incidents, known as hate crimes, for which 5,731 offenders were identified.[28] Of these, 59% were white, 20.9% were black, 7.1% were of various races, 1.4% were Asian or Pacific Islanders, 0.8% were Native American, and 10.8% were of unknown race.[28]

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Yes, your data IS flawed. 

"Consider the source?"  Deo used Wiki, but that shouldn't preclude that from being a reliable cite, especially when the source is the FBI Crime Database. FYI, in case you didn't know, the sources are down at the bottom, under "References". 

Your "facts" came verbatim from the US Uncut website.  My main problem with the article you quoted from (but did not cite!) is that they take those FBI stats and use them in a misleading way.  For example, I could say "There are many more left-handed people in California than there are in Wyoming." It's estimated that 10% of the population is left-handed and since the population of Wyoming is (according to the last US Census in 2010) 563,767 and the population of California is 37,254,503, of course there's going to be more lefties in California.

It's the same with crime statistics and racial demographics;  when you start trying to use a number to "prove" something, you have to factor in percentages, especially when you're comparing a percentile of the population, like this:

In 2012, white males were 38% of the population and committed 4,582 murders. That same year, black males were 6.6% of the population but committed 5,531 murders.

In other words: black men–at just a fifth of the comparable white male demographic–committed almost 1,000 more murders than their white counterparts.

(source: FBI Expanded Homicide Data)

I could go on with more real facts backed up by sources, not those the US Uncut article fudged, but I'm sure you wouldn't like 'em.

My second problem with the article is one that's already been pointed out, the absurdly redundant "84 percent of white murder victims were white".  It's akin to "a little bit pregnant" or "No dead victims survived the train wreck."

Then there's the fact that it's obviously a Berniebot site.  Whatever they post has to fit their narrative, looks like...par for the course.  "It's THE MAN'S fault!"  I guess that IS a case where one should "consider the source".

Just more people desperately wanting to be perpetual victims, that's all.

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by on Apr 25, 2024

If whites are more violent than blacks, why is it blacks are the ones always rioting, attacking people and burning down buildings?  And why do you have to shout when posting?

Lildarryl

Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Apr 1, 2016

If whites are more violent than blacks, why is it blacks are the ones always rioting, attacking people and burning down buildings?  And why do you have to shout when posting?

When u go see a movie.  Two guys enter with book bags on their backs.  One guy white.  One guy black.  Between the two.  Who is more prone to shoot up theatre......

 

Case closed

LiveInGreenBay's avatarLiveInGreenBay

Quote: Originally posted by Lildarryl on Apr 1, 2016

When u go see a movie.  Two guys enter with book bags on their backs.  One guy white.  One guy black.  Between the two.  Who is more prone to shoot up theatre......

 

Case closed

Hey bud...I'm talking about hundreds of useless human beings rioting, stealing, attacking people, burning down entire blocks of buildings and blaming it all on the cops.  That guy attacked a cop and tried to take his gun, so the cop shot him. 

And you talk about ONE nut who shot people in a movie theatre?  You f'n kidding me?

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