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Added State Lottery Report Card


Posted By: Todd — June 8, 2005, 1:54 pm

I added the State Lottery Report Card to the menu of options in the Results menu.  I am still looking for help in identifying the games marked "Unknown" in the report card.  So if you see a game marked unknown, and you have personal knowledge of whether it's a computerized drawing or ball machine, please let me know.  Also, if I have something wrong please let me know that too.

Thanks for your help.

I plan on adding other variables to the report card, like cash/annuity availability on all/some games, ability to change your mind on the option, and other things.  Any other ideas are appreciated.

Replies:


Reply #1:  JimmySand9  —  June 8, 2005, 2:11 pm

Quebec's La Quotdienne (or "The Daily One" in English), uses balls, they recently bought Messengers from Smartplay for that game.


Reply #2:  Todd  —  June 8, 2005, 2:37 pm

I assume that is for both La Quotdienne 3 and La Quotdienne 4?


Reply #3:  Todd  —  June 8, 2005, 9:21 pm

I assume that is for both La Quotdienne 3 and La Quotdienne 4?

Yes?


Reply #4:  JimmySand9  —  June 9, 2005, 12:48 am

I assume that is for both La Quotdienne 3 and La Quotdienne 4?

Yes?

Yes. And I checked Loto-Quebec's website. All of their draw games (even La Mini) are drawn with balls. Vive la boules!


Reply #5:  dvdiva  —  June 9, 2005, 12:59 am

Well it's about time the states with computer drawings get a big "F".


Reply #6:  Todd  —  June 9, 2005, 1:05 am

I did a bunch more research, and updated a bunch of games.  There are still some unknowns, but many fewer than before.  I have sent e-mails to the lotteries in question.


Reply #7:  JimmySand9  —  June 9, 2005, 2:15 am

I'm still uncertain about Montana Cash. Where did you find out that it was drawn with balls?


Reply #8:  Todd  —  June 9, 2005, 9:47 am

I'm still uncertain about Montana Cash. Where did you find out that it was drawn with balls?

Well, let me just state for the record here that Lottery Post intends to be the source of record for this data, so I don't put anything up unless it's been cross-verified.  Just so there's no question about the integrity of the data.

The Montana Lottery told me.


Reply #9:  JimmySand9  —  June 9, 2005, 12:43 pm

I'm still uncertain about Montana Cash. Where did you find out that it was drawn with balls?

Well, let me just state for the record here that Lottery Post intends to be the source of record for this data, so I don't put anything up unless it's been cross-verified.  Just so there's no question about the integrity of the data.

The Montana Lottery told me.

Well O.K. I need make a trek there then. Those QuickTix sound awesome.


Reply #10:  JimmySand9  —  June 9, 2005, 12:56 pm

And some unfortunate news about D.C. Our worst fears have been realized.

http://www.dclottery.com/pdfs/Computerized%20Draw.pdf

I'll stick to Hot Lotto while I'm there from now on. 


Reply #11:  Todd  —  June 9, 2005, 4:27 pm

How terrible for DC lottery players.  No Nod


Reply #12:  ryanm  —  June 9, 2005, 4:51 pm

  At least we know there are some states (such as Florida) that understand computer drawings will undermine player confidence.


Reply #13:  DoctorEw220  —  June 11, 2005, 3:47 am

todd:

i like the idea of rating each state lottery, but perhaps they should be rated on more than just how true the drawings are.  perhaps you could also base the grades on the payout percentages, average jackpot, sales figures, jackpot odds, starting jackpot, instant games, and variety of choice.


Reply #14:  Todd  —  June 11, 2005, 12:19 pm

todd:

i like the idea of rating each state lottery, but perhaps they should be rated on more than just how true the drawings are.  perhaps you could also base the grades on the payout percentages, average jackpot, sales figures, jackpot odds, starting jackpot, instant games, and variety of choice.

Dr. Ew, you should check my Blog for an entry I put on this exact topic.  Thare are lots of different categories I had thought of, and yours are some good ones to add to that.


Reply #15:  lottobrain  —  June 11, 2005, 12:51 pm

Recently I was discussing lottery play with a KY player and after going to the Kentucky Lottery website and looking up the numbers that had his this year, I was surprised to see how many numbers seemed to repeat during a week and how many triples had hit there so far this year. It made me feel that perhaps the day draw was by RNG and therefore, it was like having two separate pick 3 games in the state which I thought might account for the increase in the triples. In the first 5 months of 2005 thre have been 6 triples.....0s, 1s, 2s, 3s, 4, and 7s. I tried to do a little research there and couldn't verify anything, but after seeing Todd's posting of the results of all state lotteries, I see that both day and night draws in KY are by ball machines.  Since the law of averages would say a triple once in 100 draws, this is pretty amazing.......5 months at apprx. 60 draws per month = 300 draws/6 trips= 1 in every 50 draws!


Reply #16:  Todd  —  June 11, 2005, 1:05 pm

Recently I was discussing lottery play with a KY player and after going to the Kentucky Lottery website and looking up the numbers that had his this year, I was surprised to see how many numbers seemed to repeat during a week and how many triples had hit there so far this year. It made me feel that perhaps the day draw was by RNG and therefore, it was like having two separate pick 3 games in the state which I thought might account for the increase in the triples. In the first 5 months of 2005 thre have been 6 triples.....0s, 1s, 2s, 3s, 4, and 7s. I tried to do a little research there and couldn't verify anything, but after seeing Todd's posting of the results of all state lotteries, I see that both day and night draws in KY are by ball machines.  Since the law of averages would say a triple once in 100 draws, this is pretty amazing.......5 months at apprx. 60 draws per month = 300 draws/6 trips= 1 in every 50 draws!

Now, try to imagine what would happen if it were a computerized drawing: the lottery would see that strange result and the programmers would start tinkering with the drawing algorithm to make sure it doesn't happen that way again.  Something like "it's not random enough!"  The nightmares of computerized drawings....

With a true lottery drawing, we can just sit back and enjoy the oddness of true randomness! Big Grin


Reply #17:  LOTTOMIKE  —  June 14, 2005, 6:31 am

lets put an end to computerized drawings,its really great triples are hitting in kentucky....the beauty of ball drawings,the players benefit!


Reply #18:  Todd  —  June 17, 2005, 9:57 am

Sadly, I had to add the three regional Western Canada games to the computerized drawings category, bringing their overall grade down to a D.

Like so many computerized drawing states, if not for the national (or multi-state) games, they would be 100% computerized.


Reply #19:  konane  —  June 21, 2005, 6:17 pm

Georgia has Quick Cash an online Keno game which is computerized.

 

1.It's easy! First, get a Quick Cash playslip from any Quick Cash retailer. Mark the box corresponding to the dollar amount you wish to play per draw in Section 1.

2.Next, choose how many numbers (spots) you want to play in Section 2.

3.Then, in Section 3, pickup to 10 numbers from a field of 1 through 80. Make sure you pick the same quantity of numbers that you chose in Section 2. Or choose the Quik Pik option.

4.Then, mark the box corresponding to the number of consecutive draws you wish to play in Section 4. Hand your completed playslip and money to the Quick Cash retailer.

5.Every 4 minutes, 20 numbers from the field of 1 through 80 are selected and displayed on the Quick Cash monitor.

6.You win based on how many numbers you match each draw.

http://www.galottery.com/stc/games/quickCashKeno.jsp?focus=games

 


Reply #20:  Todd  —  June 21, 2005, 6:33 pm

Konane,

It is assumed, by way of logistics, that 4-minute Keno games are all going to be computerized.  I don't think there's any expectation that human beings are going to work like Lucy in a candy factory to draw the lottery balls, quickly set the up again, and run the drawing again -- all day long.

Maybe others could offer different opinions on this, but my opinion is that the existence of a computerized 4-minute Keno game is not a negative when evaluating a lottery, as long as the standard daily lottery games are drawn using a real lottery machine.  In fact, I would rather look on the offering of 4-minute Keno as a positive factor, in that the lottery is offering additional game options, without sacrificing the quality or quantity of daily games.

Any other opinions?


Reply #21:  JimmySand9  —  June 21, 2005, 7:20 pm

The bottom line is that balls should be used whenever practical. Every 4 minutes isn't practical, unfortunately, for balls to be used.


Reply #22:  konane  —  June 21, 2005, 9:06 pm

Konane,

It is assumed, by way of logistics, that 4-minute Keno games are all going to be computerized.  I don't think there's any expectation that human beings are going to work like Lucy in a candy factory to draw the lottery balls, quickly set the up again, and run the drawing again -- all day long.

Maybe others could offer different opinions on this, but my opinion is that the existence of a computerized 4-minute Keno game is not a negative when evaluating a lottery, as long as the standard daily lottery games are drawn using a real lottery machine.  In fact, I would rather look on the offering of 4-minute Keno as a positive factor, in that the lottery is offering additional game options, without sacrificing the quality or quantity of daily games.

Any other opinions?

Love your synopsis!!  ROFL  ROFL  ROFL    You're absolutely correct!!