Comment #8

konane — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:27:34 GMT

Truth is NOT hate. Get over the insults veiled as CANNED "talking points" and debate issues on merit.

Comment #7

Ms. Pat — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:33:29 GMT

Comment #6

konane — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:41:08 GMT

If that's bigotry then you just redefined it because the article was written about religious status. Always something, if a questionable light is cast toward the left's ideology or candidate simply use one of their canned talking objections. Next .......... Oh by the way I read somewhere but have NOT verified its validity that the only person(s) to whom a Muslim owes the absolute total sworn truth to is another Muslim. If anyone can point toward verification of... [ More ]

Comment #5

NBey6 — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:56:36 GMT

Eminem: "I am whatever I say I am!" <br

Comment #4

konane — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:12:33 GMT

RACE WAS NOT mentioned or implied in the article. Religious status is not race.<br

Comment #3

konane — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:05:49 GMT

Following "what the rest of the world thinks of us" ....... how the rest of the world views a potential next president is of equal importance.

Comment #2

NBey6 — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:12:19 GMT

This is the kind of stuff that leads to the approval of "soft racism." I think Eminem got it right, "I am whatever I say I am!"

Comment #1

Litebets27 — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:52:21 GMT

And your point is?

Original Blog Entry: "Barack Obama through Muslim Eyes

konane — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:29:47 GMT

Bringing forward a post by Jarasan below my article following expands a bit farther on the same subject.

Live links.

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Obama Would Fail Security Clearance

By Daniel Pipes

https://www.lotterypost.com/blogcomments.asp?i=25078 b=p

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Barack Obama through Muslim Eyes

by Daniel Pipes

FrontPageMagazine.com

August 25, 2008

How do Muslims see Barack Hussein Obama? They have three choices: either as he presents himself someone who has never been a Muslim and has always been a Christian ; or as a fellow Muslim; or as an apostate from Islam.

Reports suggests that while Americans generally view the Democratic candidate having had no religion before converting at Reverend Jeremiah Wrights's hands at age 27, Muslims the world over rarely see him as Christian but usually as either Muslim or ex-Muslim.

Lee Smith of the Hudson Institute explains why: Barack Obama's father was Muslim and therefore, according to Islamic law, so is the candidate. In spite of the Quranic verses explaining that there is no compulsion in religion, a Muslim child takes the religion of his or her father. for Muslims around the world, non-American Muslims at any rate, they can only ever see Barack Hussein Obama as a Muslim. In addition, his school record from Indonesia lists him as a Muslim

Thus, an Egyptian newspaper, Al-Masri al-Youm, refers to his Muslim origins. Libyan ruler Mu ammar al-Qaddafi referred to Obama as a Muslim and a person with an African and Islamic identity. One Al-Jazeera analysis calls him a non-Christian man, a second refers to his Muslim Kenyan father, and a third, by Naseem Jamali, notes that Obama may not want to be counted as a Muslim but Muslims are eager to count him as one of their own.

A conversation in Beirut, quoted in the Christian Science Monitor, captures the puzzlement. He has to be good for Arabs because he is a Muslim, observed a grocer. He's not a Muslim, he's a Christian, replied a customer. Retorted the grocer: He can't be a Christian. His middle name is Hussein. Arabic discussions of Obama sometimes mention his middle name as a code, with no further comment needed.

The symbolism of a major American presidential candidate with the middle name of Hussein, who went to elementary school in Indonesia, reports Tamara Cofman Wittes of the Brookings Institution from a U.S.-Muslim conference in Qatar, that certainly speaks to Muslims abroad. Thomas L. Friedman of the New York Times found that Egyptians don't really understand Obama's family tree, but what they do know is that if America despite being attacked by Muslim militants on 9/11 were to elect as its president some guy with the middle name Hussein,' it would mark a sea change in America-Muslim world relations.

Some American Muslim leaders also perceive Obama as Muslim. The president of the Islamic Society of North America, Sayyid M. Syeed, told Muslims at a conference in Houston that whether Obama wins or loses, his candidacy will reinforce that Muslim children can become the presidents of this country. The Nation of Islam's Louis Farrakhan called Obama the hope of the entire world and compared him to his religion's founder, Fard Muhammad.

But this excitement also has a dark side suspicions that Obama is a traitor to his birth religion, an apostate (murtadd) from Islam. Al-Qaeda has prominently featured Obama's stating I am not a Muslim and one analyst, Shireen K. Burki of the University of Mary Washington, sees Obama as bin Laden's dream candidate. Should he become U.S. commander in chief, she believes, Al-Qaeda would likely exploit his background to argue that an apostate is leading the global war on terror to galvanize sympathizers into action.

Mainstream Muslims tend to tiptoe around this topic. An Egyptian supporter of Obama, Yasser Khalil, reports that many Muslims react with bewilderment and curiosity when Obama is described as a Muslim apostate; Josie Delap and Robert Lane Greene of the Economist even claim that the Obama-as-apostate theme has been notably absent among Arabic-language columnists and editorialists.

That latter claim is inaccurate, for the topic is indeed discussed. At least one Arabic-language newspaper published Burki's article. Kuwait's Al-Watan referred to Obama as a born Muslim, an apostate, a convert to Christianity. Writing in the Arab Times, Syrian liberal Nidal Na isa repeatedly called Obama an apostate Muslim.

In sum, Muslims puzzle over Obama's present religious status. They resist his self-identification as a Christian while they assume a baby born to a Muslim father and named Hussein began life a Muslim. Should Obama become president, differences in Muslim and American views of religious affiliation will create problems.

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5845

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