Winning lottery ticket purchased with stolen credit card

Comment #57

Chewie — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:00:09 GMT

Ever notice, those weirdoes tend to not protest in the heartland

Comment #56

justxploring — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:03:07 GMT

I agree. If the credit card is not legit, neither is the purchase. On the other hand, our court system has been so upside down that I wouldn't be surprised if someone finds a loophole. Remember If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit ?? So maybe her lawyer can come up with a catchy phrase. I know this is unrelated, but in FL there was a rally a few weeks ago where sex offenders protested over their rights being violated. (puke) The group is called the Sex Offender Support and Education... [ More ]

Comment #55

bellyache — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:33:49 GMT

You know gargil I'm done with this. You're the one who claimed that the police were up to no good from your first post. You made that claim. Obviously, you think this woman who used a stolen credit card to purchase a winning lottery ticket deserves to keep it, whether or not she is a thief. That's your opinion. You want to rant about the police or whatever and claim they stole her money...fine. But I'm not going to debate over something that you don't have any proof of. Did you ever think for... [ More ]

Comment #54

Chewie — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:49:02 GMT

Gargil:Question, what have you done to make this a better country? I am really curious to know what you have done to prevent it going down the toilet. I can be wrong, but you've given no indication that you have done anything. So far, all I see are rantings of an unstable person.

Comment #53

gargil — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:18:35 GMT

all of you need to get YOUR heads out of the clouds. I nor anyone else said that the article mentioned police misconduct. Now you people are putting words in my mouth (a habit of the police). I simply made a statement that the police do not have the final say. They DO NOT make the laws. They are SUPPOSSED to enforce them. I also was curios as to why they were looking for the first installment. What for? I realize most people have lots to hide so they keep their mouths shut and do not e... [ More ]

Comment #52

bellyache — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:36:39 GMT

The cops got away with nothing; there was nothing to get away with. They are only investigating the incident. The article is about a woman using a dead person s credit card. You, therefore, would be dead, and would sue no one for using your credit card. Exactly! There was no mention of bad police conduct anywhere in that article. It was just about a woman commiting fraud. I really don't see how this got turned on to the people investigating this women. lol.

Comment #51

Chewie — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 14:28:14 GMT

You obviously neglected to read the article. Your position is based on the mindless rantings of gargil about a non-existent Police State. The cops got away with nothing; there was nothing to get away with. They are only investigating the incident. The article is about a woman using a dead person s credit card. You, therefore, would be dead, and would sue no one for using your credit card. Supreme Court? Get your head out your ... hummm ... lets say, out of the clouds. Less then a thou... [ More ]

Comment #50

gargil — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:00:06 GMT

BRAVO DvDiva

Comment #49

dvdiva — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 06:29:03 GMT

If someone wants to steal my credit card and buy a winning powerball or MM ticket they are welcome to do so. I'm sure I could get a lawyer to get the money since I paid for the ticket. only reason the cops are getting away with it is it's not a lot of money and the card holder is dead. If it were me i'd fight all the way to the supreme court for a powerball win then sue for the costs of collection plus triple damages (could get expensive on a powerball win

Comment #48

Chewie — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:05:06 GMT

gargil: The world is not a nice place. Unhappy experiences do not a life make - unless that is all your life is. Everything you see wrong in life is a mirror, simple and true. happens. Grow up and quit whining.

Comment #47

gargil — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 01:22:57 GMT

I have no paranoia doctor, I am only referring to the article where it stated that the Police said that the lady would not be able to keep her winnings, and where they were looking for the initial installment she had claimed. I was a victim many years ago with a corrupt Police Officer who threw me threw a glass window and attempted steal my ring on my finger. People put too much trust in them, and give them too much authority today. It was very wrong for that woman to steal by using someone e... [ More ]

Comment #46

DirtyWrat — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 00:47:07 GMT

Well said.

Comment #45

bellyache — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:46:28 GMT

I am awake, I am not afraid, I do understand and I think you have issues with the police or a bit of paranoia. The article was about a woman who used a stolen credit card to purchase lottery tickets which she then won on. That is what the article is about. It is not about the police taking her winnings and pocketing the profits for themselves. She's guilty the police are not.

Comment #44

gargil — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:26:46 GMT

I am trying to make a point here, and everyone refuses to understand, or perhaps they are afraid to admit it (which is the downfall of this country). I am just trying to make a point that the Police of our country DO NOT make the laws or the decisions. If the Lottery Commission says she does not get the money, or the credit card company tries to fight it, that is different. And if it is against the law and it is a written law, then that is that. I am not nuts, I am savvy. Americans need to

Comment #43

Darth Tigger — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:35:21 GMT

Amen Bellyache.

Comment #42

bellyache — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:58:15 GMT

Actually your statement, The person who is in possession of the ticket can claim the winnings, whether it was found, stolen, bought, sold, etc. is not true. There have been reports of people who used illegal means to purchase tickets and lost the money they would have won. You can even find a couple of news stories on lottery post.The point is this woman used a stolen credit card to make a purchase. She may not be entitled to the winnings because she used someone elses credit card. It doesn't... [ More ]

Comment #41

Darth Tigger — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:14:17 GMT

Gargil; The only thing I can think to say is this, your nuts. If a ticket is stolen, and it is proven, you don't get to keep the winnings. Theft is theft, plain and simple. the women should not have been using her dead mother's card unless she was on file with the credit card company. The credit card company can prosecute her and win big time if she wasn't allowed to use the thing, that is just plain crazy to think otherwise. Unfortunately Possession is nine tenths the law does not apply.... [ More ]

Comment #40

Darth Tigger — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:05:02 GMT

Chewie; I have read where your claim of using a debit card is cheaper than a credit card, if this was the case, Wally World would have never refused the Master Card Debit card and my bank would not have switched over to a VISA Debit Card. And as for one being easier to use, this is not exactly true, though it does help some of us with paying bills. Whether most of you folks realize it or not, you are not allowed to buy a Lottery Ticket on a Credit card, however most folks do not realize thi... [ More ]

Comment #39

libra926 — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:42:27 GMT

NOVEMBER 1ST.........Very well stated CHEWIE ......I concurr w/you.....

Comment #38

Chewie — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 01:18:17 GMT

As I've said before, there is a price for every shortcut. When you get behind the sheep in front of you, you can expect to be sheared.

Comment #37

libra926 — Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:03:52 GMT

October .....31st.......6:00pm estThat's very good....Chewie.....but In the Major Banking Insititutions, as I'm sure you know, because Society now lives and thrives on the get it and go mentallity, the average Bank Customer can make and withdrawal withing 20 seconds, at an ATM window..... GO.........

Comment #36

Chewie — Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:44:56 GMT

My spending money is in a local account, the real retirement money is in a Credit Union in Texas - withdrawls only by face to face.

Comment #35

libra926 — Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:36:16 GMT

ADDENDUM:Having read all the statements on this topic......let me add, that while many thoughts expressed here are very interesting, and some very comical.......You would be surprised at the vast number of people, using the credit cards of Deceased Members of their Families.......It happens far more often than you think.......Especially if the Deceased person had excellent credit.....Also CHEWIE .....CASH AS WELL FROM CHECKING ACCOUNTS......LOLOLOLOLOThe ATM Machine has made banking so easy

Comment #34

libra926 — Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:24:10 GMT

10/31/05..........(BTW)......While all of us know the Laws regarding using the credit cards of Deceased People especially our family members, which in this case, is the issue.....many people do not realize that they are stealing, if using the credit card of a deceased member of the family, especially one so close. The daughter-in- law, has possibly used her Mother-in-Laws credit card to purchase many items. As the card was finally reported stolen, perhaps her husband was angry about something a... [ More ]

Comment #33

libra926 — Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:15:40 GMT

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE........HOPE ALL MY MM COWARTS ARE HAPPY TONIGHT........10/31.... KY MY ....I LOVED YOUR LAST POST....LOLOLOLOLOL.....YOU HIT THE TARGET.......LOLOLOL

Comment #32

KyMystikal — Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:50:54 GMT

I thought it was the lottery giveth and the government taketh away

Comment #31

Chewie — Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:20:53 GMT

The difference between a credit card and a debit card is minimal; strictly an accouting seperation; one has an instant funds tranfer and the other has a delayed funds tranfer - with extended reimbursement option. Use, in most cases, is interchangeable. Only the intelligent retailer, the one looking to reduce their cost, questions their use. To the retailer, the fee for the debit option is cheaper; by as much as 15%. Most retailers prefer cards over cash. Safer, easier book-keeping, electronic t... [ More ]

Comment #30

hsvscubaski — Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:53:17 GMT

I wish I could use Credit Card I get 2% cash back

Comment #29

Iesha Kelly — Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:07:43 GMT

it being a debit card changes the whole ball game, because a debit card is not a credit card. a stolen debit card is bad. a stolen credit card is also bad. but they are not the same theft. i don't think companies should accept payment in credit cards. too much potential for abuse. way too much potential for abuse. cash only is the only way to go.

Comment #28

shalini — Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:11:43 GMT

that is so funny....hahahaha

Comment #27

gargil — Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:15:45 GMT

I agree. Credit card companies do not lay claim to items purchased with their cards. In addition, if there is nothing in writing in their credit card agreement stating rules regarding the purchase of lottery/gaming tickets, and there is no written law in the state where the ticket was purchased prohibiting tickets being purchased by a credit card (not just what the Police say), then she can certainly fight it and win. She now has the money to pay the credit card company back the money owed t... [ More ]

Comment #26

TheGameGrl — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:38:31 GMT

Quote in part from K Y Floyd: If the credit card company was charged and paid for the ticket it seems that they've got a reasonable claim to ownership, and it certainly won't be a he said, she said argument. Inaccurate statement. Read any credit card agreement. Creditors do not have a clause proclaiming ownership of items/products. Otherwise I'd be glad to put all my utility bills on a credit card and let the credit card companies claim ownership of the bills! :) what a credit card company do... [ More ]

Comment #25

KY Floyd — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:30:05 GMT

The real owner of a credit card is *always* the company that issues the card, and they're also the one that pays the merchant if a purchase turns out to be fraudulent. If a credit card company pays for merchandise that was purchased fraudulently, I expect they'd be the rightful owner if the merchandise is recovered. Unless the person the card is issued to pays for any fraudulent charges on the card there's no reason at all that they would have any claim on merchandise bought by somebody using t... [ More ]

Comment #24

KY Floyd — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:22:01 GMT

You seem to be a bit confused. If somebody throws away a winning ticket and somebody else finds it and claims the prize the law may be a bit vague about ownership, but the law is crystal clear when somebody buys something with a stolen credit card. If you buy something with a stolen credit card you don't own it. Period. If she's convicted of illegally using the card then she doesn't own the ticket or anything else she bought with the card, and if you don't own a lottery ticket there's not a chan... [ More ]

Comment #23

gargil — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:25:10 GMT

As long as it is legal in her state to use a credit card to purchase the ticket, then she will certainly have a great lawsuit if they refuse her the money. She will get much more than a million! Even though she was breaking the law with the use of the card, and she may have other problems like drug use, that has nothing to do with winning the money. She was smart enough not to keep her first winning installment in the house, the Cops would have probably pocketed it when they searched her hous... [ More ]

Comment #22

Chewie — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:38:43 GMT

Not really a major lesson from God. A major lesson from God is when he kills every one that doesn't agree with him. Forgot the thing about the Ark already? Or the Egyptian male babies

Comment #21

CASH Only — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:25:07 GMT

jag:Don't forget OR has an online version of Lose for Life. Perhaps Ms Bad-enow plays it too.

Comment #20

JAG331 — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:16:27 GMT

LOL. Cash Only, now that was funny.Maybe Ms. Goodenow should go visit Steven West for advice, since they both live in Medford, OR.

Comment #19

CASH Only — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:02:09 GMT

There's nothing Goodenow about a lottery prize that doesn't have a cash option.

Comment #18

smd173 — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:00:53 GMT

Well it will have to go to her estate then... Goodenow purchased the winning ticket October 9 using a credit card that had belonged to her mother-in-law, who died more than a year ago, police said.

Comment #17

smd173 — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:59:38 GMT

Too late... A search warrant served at her home Thursday turned up some methamphetamine, but little money, George said.

Comment #16

fja — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:48:57 GMT

the lottery giveth and the lottery taketh away

Comment #15

LckyLary — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:09:33 GMT

Let's assume that the tickets were Quick Pick. Timing is EVERYTHING. A split second earlier or later would have resulted in nonwinning numbers. A timeline in which the tickets were purchased with cash or a legitimate credit card would have affected the exact timing of the RNG in the machine, and there would be no story here. She was just not meant to win! A major lesson from God not to live that kind of life.

Comment #14

Chewie — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:20:32 GMT

I am confident, if you steal my card, and try to buy a lottery ticket, you will have exceeded the spending limit.

Comment #13

KyMystikal — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:13:29 GMT

In Kentucky you can use a Visa/Mastercard Check Card to pay for lottery tickets but it has to be made as a debit not credit purchase.

Comment #12

TonyB — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 07:27:47 GMT

It should go to the real owner of the credit card.

Comment #11

BabyJC — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 07:15:21 GMT

Now I've heard everything

Comment #10

Ladyluck2005 — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 05:48:36 GMT

Maybe a family member snitched on them. Or maybe the woman used the card before to purchase things there was an alert on the card.

Comment #9

sirbrad — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 05:37:33 GMT

If she was smart she would have used a cash advance.

Comment #8

mylollipop — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 05:09:47 GMT

. I am so sorry for you. Hope that the $$$$$$$$$ you received already did not go to someone thriving on the weaknesses of others. Addiction is tuff stuff and the stuff she is reportedly on!....

Comment #7

KY Floyd — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 04:59:20 GMT

Even if the law says you can't use credit, that doesn't mean it won't happen. Every now and then when I've bought gas and a ticket the clerk has asked if I wanted the ticket on the credit card, too. I don't remember exactly when the law changed to make it illegal to buy tickets with credit, but I'm pretty sure I've charged the tickets a couple of times since it happened.I'd be curious to see some info on how the cops know the ticket was put on the credit card. This may also develop into the most... [ More ]

Comment #6

jeffrey — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:46:20 GMT

That money should be used in a drug rehab instead of a senator's pocket

Comment #5

DoubleDown — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:17:22 GMT

Duh !!!!!!! Homer Simpson : Doh

Comment #4

Rip Snorter — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:27:43 GMT

Losers have a way of keeping on being losers. Human genius takes some strange turns trying to keep itself from being spotted.Jack

Comment #3

Ladyluck2005 — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:30:35 GMT

What an idiot. She will win the Idiot of the year award

Comment #2

bellyache — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:06:17 GMT

It was dumb of her to purchase lottery tickets with a stolen credit card. To me it's like that guy who used drug money to buy tickets. I don't think she should get to keep it.

Comment #1

JMorenoMars — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:53:03 GMT

In Ohio and PA, you can't buy lottery tickets with a credit card. I thought all lotteries were that way, I guess not.

Winning lottery ticket purchased with stolen credit card

Lottery Post — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:25:25 GMT

A woman bought a winning lottery ticket worth $1 million with a stolen credit card and could wind up with nothing if convicted, police said.Christina Goodenow, 38, of White City in southern Oregon faced numerous theft-related charges, forgery and possession of methamphetamine, said authorities, who searched her home Thursday. The card belonged to a deceased relative, they said.If convicted of any of the charges, Goodenow will not be able to collect prize money from the winning ticket, said polic... [ More ]