Pa. Man Charged With Redeeming Forged Winning Lottery Ticket

Comment #40

bellyache — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 18:19:08 GMT

Maybe his coworkers were involved. I wonder if the coworkers involved in the pool were part of this stunt? I hope more comes out about this story.

Comment #39

Iesha Kelly — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 04:48:13 GMT

ruh roh..... so how many others are involved? and is he indeed a patsy

Comment #38

Iesha Kelly — Sat, 19 Nov 2005 04:47:27 GMT

i agree.

Comment #37

BaristaExpress — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:14:28 GMT

DirtyWrat, that sounds just great to me. And we can do that! But in all fairness, please remember I did say that there is no such thing as a gray area when it pertains to anything being forged! I just don't see how anyone could see any gray, what so ever in something of that nature! That's all. Later dude.Have a good day DirtyWrat.

Comment #36

DirtyWrat — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:41:13 GMT

BaristaExpress-Ok. Maybe you're right. Maybe I'm poking my nose where it doesn't belong.It seemed to me that you were being a little harsh toward TheGameGrl for no apparent reason so I made some comments that maybe I shouldn't have. Maybe I'm suffering from The knight in shining armor rescuing the damsel in distress syndrome. If you had been harassing TheGameBoy I probably would have cared less.I jumped all over Cash Only in another thread for what I thought at the time was a valid reason, but... [ More ]

Comment #35

BaristaExpress — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 04:08:14 GMT

A Gambler I am! The lottery is a form of gambling! Even though I love to shoot craps, play 3-card poker and a little blackjack (I hate those 6 deck shoes they use though) but nonetheless I play a little once in a blue moon! I lived in Las Vegas for 7 years before moving to where I live now! Before that I lived in Southern Calif. all my life and visited vacationed for a week at a time with the wife in Las Vegas for years! So you made the wrong bet! Yes, everyone knows the house is favored and... [ More ]

Comment #34

DirtyWrat — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:30:44 GMT

BaristaExpress-So, you're a gambler. You say you also shoot from the hip. I got a feeling you also shoot off at the mouth.I wonder what other gamblers who go to Vegas to gamble would think if the casino had a game where the odds of winning were 176 million to one. Can you see them placing $20 $100 bets? I think not.A gambler bets when he thinks he has a good chance of winning. Even though the odds favor the house a gambler calulates the risks verses the rewards and places his bets accordingly.... [ More ]

Comment #33

DoubleDown — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:21:13 GMT

I am ducking all the mud slinging on the board here...These verbal jousting matches really quack me up.If some of you don't stop it, your goose is going to be cooked.unbelieveabill.......

Comment #32

DirtyWrat — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:42:34 GMT

To advance gradually but steadily: forged ahead through throngs of shoppers.To advance with an abrupt increase of speed: forged into first place with seconds to go.adj : reproduced fraudulently; like a bad penny... ; a forged twenty dollar bill

Comment #31

RJOh — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:02:56 GMT

The statement was A Pennsylvania man is accused of redeeming a forged lottery ticket not forging a lottery ticket. From what I've read from other sources, the authorities are thinking like me that it's unlikely this guy would have acted alone for the benefits of his co workers, they are convinced others were involved and are investigating.

Comment #30

BaristaExpress — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:34:57 GMT

As far as questioning the meaning of the word forge goes, you can forge ahead, forge a partnership, forge through a blizzard or go to Valley Forge. But you can't forge an official lottery ticket.Awe, but your choice of using the word forge and not forged, is not the same as the original context that it was used in the news article. Yes, you are correct in the many different ways that you have used Forge ! But as the news article stated, Pa. Man Charged With Redeeming Forged Winning Lottery Ti... [ More ]

Comment #29

bellyache — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:19:50 GMT

Well I thought that most people knew that the bar code was part of identifying the ticket. He probably should have done his research before attempting his rip-off.

Comment #28

justxploring — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:02:40 GMT

Yikes! Such hostility on a lottery board. Okay people...everyone close your eyes and imagine all of us holding hands in a circle and chanting peace, love and understanding. Nah! I think a better vision is seeing me win lots of money and throwing a big party. So be nice or I won't invite you.I think ducks are cute. In fact, I'd rather go out with a duck than most guys. At least the duck will take care of his own bill. Now if I could just do something about his fowl language.As far as questioning... [ More ]

Comment #27

TheGameGrl — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:28:48 GMT

Barista- Chill dude, this is a forum to relay the topics information. I have had enough of your derogatory comments.

Comment #26

BaristaExpress — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 03:24:13 GMT

GameGrl, I don't need to do anything of the sort! But I do think you need to know the definition of the word Forged is though! There is nothing to even speculate or debate about what the word forged means! The word it self explains it's self! Unless you have no common sense or you are choosing not to use any part of the education you may have received earlier in life! There is nothing amusing (directly or indirectly) about anything being forged! The point that has already been made that the Lott... [ More ]

Comment #25

Chewie — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 02:38:26 GMT

He sounds like a PA Legislature. They broke the law by giving themselves a pay raise in the middle of the night. Then had to rescind the raise. Bet they don't get charged with anything! Once again, its only wrong when you are not one of the elite.

Comment #24

sirbrad — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:44:39 GMT

I guess he did not know about the bar coding, and assumed the lottery only goes by what the ink says. There may also be some watermarks, or hidden ones as well. If a dollar bill has security features, you can bet that a potential $300 million dollar lottery ticket is going to have them also.

Comment #23

bellyache — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:44:42 GMT

He was stupid thinking that he was going to be able to get away with it. I am sure however that for a few moments, he actually thought he did.Oh and Geese are mean.

Comment #22

TheGameGrl — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:35:47 GMT

sirbrad-glad you added that update of information. !Barista- I cordially invite you to have the opportunity to rent a movie called The Star Chamber . Its an eye opener for folks who like to jump to conclusions based on a minimal amount of information.

Comment #21

sirbrad — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:18:17 GMT

PENNSYLVANIA LOTTERY THWARTS ATTEMPT TO CLAIM POWERBALL PRIZE WITH FORGED TICKET --> Carlisle man arrested at Lottery headquartersHARRISBURG A Carlisle man faces charges of forgery and theft by deception in connection with a failed attempt to use a fake Powerball ticket to claim an $853,492 prize. The ticket scam failed when the forged ticket couldn t pass the Lottery s validation tests. Brian Scott Miller, 34, of Pheasant Drive South, Carlisle, was arrested Monday at Lottery headquarters by... [ More ]

Comment #20

Chewie — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:05:06 GMT

Chewie-I don't think you're being fair to the duck.Now I gotta be fair to a duck? I'm going to fail all kinds of nice guy tests in the next few years. These darn geese are every where around here. AFLAC aside, they are useless. Bleeding hearts even try to protect them. A person can't hardly walk from the parking lot to the office because of the droppings. Some one said two pounds a day. THe only good thing I can say about them, they don't crap while flying. They do make a mess in the... [ More ]

Comment #19

shelbyjean — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:10:17 GMT

rjoh i would just like to add a few words directly to the point that i think it is very kind and decent of you thinking of something nice to say about this discussion some people are ready to start slinging their jokes and funny lol's i personally went thru a terrible ordeal about the same matter and i was never really quite the same for a long time there are innocent bystanders out there along the way i know that for certain and as i say''if you don't walk in the shoe it is really hard to guess... [ More ]

Comment #18

DirtyWrat — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:21:17 GMT

BaristaExpress -All TheGameGrl said was she finds the concept of forgery intriguing.Chill out.I think we all take a turn wearing those rose colored glasses every time we buy lottery tickets.

Comment #17

DirtyWrat — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:55:41 GMT

Chewie-I don't think you're being fair to the duck.

Comment #16

BaristaExpress — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:07:50 GMT

I also find forgery interesting. But there is nothing gray about it! There is no such thing as a gray area when it comes to something being Forged! Forged is just that, FORGED! It's a Fake, it has no value, how can you see any Gray there? You Can't .Oh, wait a minute, Yes there is some gray , The Freaking Color Of His Jail Cell Walls!Are you looking through rose colored glasses or something? Because if you are, it's still no excuse for not deciding one-way or the other! It's Right or it's Wron... [ More ]

Comment #15

BabyJC — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:11:39 GMT

I wonder why he can't speak to any of his lotto pool members? A lot of pertinent info is missing.

Comment #14

Chewie — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:54:59 GMT

Actually, there isn't much between a forgery and a duck that quacks. The output of both is smelly and of no value.

Comment #13

fja — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:37:40 GMT

Man what were you thinking....I can picture the expression on his face, and what was going through his mind when they handed him the fake check and let him walk out the door...

Comment #12

bellyache — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:18:22 GMT

It is an interesting article. I hope more comes out about this man and his attempted theivery.

Comment #11

TheGameGrl — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 04:04:33 GMT

Ahh a person who sees things with no grey area.Pardon if I find the concept of forgery to be a bit more intrigueing then a duck that quacks.Interesting news article none the less.

Comment #10

BaristaExpress — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:58:32 GMT

Ink testing is one, the acid paper test is another! Who knows what test they use or the combination of tests they use to authenticate the ticket! I can bet there are more than the two I just listed

Comment #9

LckyLary — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:02:57 GMT

PA tickets are printed on plain white paper with little orange keystone logos along one edge. They are probably the easiest of all tickets to counterfeit. Anyone with an inkjet printer and good at Photoshop. But also a flaming fool because the tickets have *BAR CODES* and other means to validate them.

Comment #8

Tenaj — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:32:53 GMT

I don't understand why people think they can get away with something like that. What do they be thinking? Talk about a dumb crook. That's dumber that the women who was talking on her cell phone will robbing a bank. gee

Comment #7

BaristaExpress — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:15:07 GMT

It doesn't matter what was Forged! Forged is just that, FORGED! If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck! End of story

Comment #6

TheGameGrl — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:39:25 GMT

This news article is brimming with speculation without so much as evidence as to: Was it a powerball ticket? An instant ticket? In what way was it forged? Leaving out this tidbit of information merely guards the Lottery commission for when this case is presented to the courts. As the story says- hes from Cumberland County - which means he's probably showing signs from TMI radiation . I recall poor judgement was a side effect from this event , or at least that will be what his laywer could use in... [ More ]

Comment #5

cahaba — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:31:29 GMT

Sounds like a crook to me.

Comment #4

RJOh — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:57:00 GMT

I hope he wasn't going through all that trouble to split the $853,000 with his fellow pool members. It might have been one of them that set him up with the forged ticket to cash hoping that once they got their share if any thing came down, he would have to take the fall all by himself. I find it hard to believe that someone would chance going to jail just so their coworkers could have some extra spending money.

Comment #3

JAP69 — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:41:06 GMT

The article does not say what was forged.They paid out for the ticket so the bar code must have been correct.Or did the lottery know that it was purchased by a group and should have been signed in another manner other than an individual.The lottery could have received a phone call from other members of the group that knew the numbers purchased.The article also say that the person is not to contact other members of the group.

Comment #2

bellyache — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:26:01 GMT

Sounds like he was desperate...too bad he was stupid.

Comment #1

JAG331 — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:59:05 GMT

Very nice.I wonder what he did to make it look good? Did he change just one number? Or maybe cut and pasted from a few tickets, lolol.

Pa. Man Charged With Redeeming Forged Winning Lottery Ticket

Lottery Post — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:57:00 GMT

A Pennsylvania man is accused of redeeming a forged lottery ticket.Police said Brian Scott Miller, 34, of Cumberland County, was one of 18 workers at Roadway Express who pool their money to play the lottery each week. Validation tests showed the ticket he took to lottery headquarters was forged. He was arrested once he walked out of lottery headquarters with what he thought was a valid check for $853,000.An agent for the attorney general's office, told a judge Monday that Miller was cooperative... [ More ]