Breakfast buddies file suit over lottery ticket

Comment #83

libra926 — Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:19:11 GMT

1/06/06........and might that be Lisa ?????(BTW).... CASH N'CARRY ....Do you remember the Movie Grace Kelly starred in whereby her character's name was Lisa ...???? If so, tell me the name of the Movie...........

Comment #82

CASH Only — Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:00:23 GMT

I have a trustee. I've shared tickets with her.

Comment #81

libra926 — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:17:26 GMT

1/3/06.....HAPPY NEW YEAR.... MY LOLOLOLOL.........WOW....I don't need my contacts or my glasses to read your post...LOLOLOBUT.....Point Made............

Comment #80

Chewie — Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:17:14 GMT

I enjoyed both of those! Perfect inputs.

Comment #79

DoubleDown — Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:01:13 GMT

As long as there is money involved, there will always be disputes.Whwn it comes to money trust only yourself and as Chewie says, that's a questionable choice.

Comment #78

Iesha Kelly — Mon, 02 Jan 2006 04:34:35 GMT

Comment #77

Iesha Kelly — Mon, 02 Jan 2006 04:31:08 GMT

I agree with lotto vantage. this dude is buying tickets for his friends... but it's HIS WIFE'S ticket that wins the 2nd prize?doesn't happen in the real world.this dude is no better than that spanish chick who tried to scam those investment bankers, and was going to have a friend collect. he is a LIAR, and a THIEF, and a sh*tty excuse for a friend. I hope his 11 ex-friends and their attorneys win. unbelieveable. then again, he probably thought he should do them before they did him first. bi... [ More ]

Comment #76

DrLasVegas — Mon, 02 Jan 2006 01:32:41 GMT

BEAR WITH ME IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS ALL INFO WILL BE MADE PUBLIC !THEN WE WILL SEE WHO IS MAKING WHAT UP

Comment #75

DoubleDown — Mon, 02 Jan 2006 00:04:36 GMT

Come on Doc, Ya gotta provide a link -- we are very skeptical.......

Comment #74

Chewie — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:52:03 GMT

Do people just make these things up? Usually a link is provided

Comment #73

RJOh — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:12:48 GMT

In regards to the creditability of DrLasVegas it is not documented

Comment #72

DrLasVegas — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:54:11 GMT

In regards to the creditability of the Salcone's the following is documented:Michael Salcone member of the Italian-American Festival Committee suspended and released to due $3,000.00 missing from festival accounts !Theresa Salcone terminated from position with local Warrren, OH jewelry store for theft

Comment #71

LadyC — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:54:58 GMT

KY, I am not saying the reporter got the details wrong, it may have been a timing issue. You can also look at the Ohio Lotterys website as all winners names and city are a matter of public record.A phone call to the Lottery will confirm that the claim was paid.

Comment #70

fja — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:41:29 GMT

Its definitley a me world....We look for someone or something to blame for our mistakes and failures in life and happiness....Being in the hospitality business for over 20 years, I' ve come across alot of people that think that they are entitled to what ever the other guy is getting.....and as far as I'm concerned the only lottery pool that works is the one with no winners.....

Comment #69

Chewie — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 13:50:32 GMT

Has no one noticed how ironic the world is becoming. A group of friends wanting to play a game togther now need a contract covering every concievable option of winning and losing. In the not too distant future, we'll be outsourcing all of our enjoyment; it'll let us blame failure on some one else and still keep our friendship.

Comment #68

mylollipop — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:36:46 GMT

C-O-N-T-R-A-C-T or no play... PERIOD

Comment #67

RJOh — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 03:17:53 GMT

If Michael and Theresa Salcone brought all the tickets for their breakfast buddies and themselves at the same time, it may be harder for their buddies to prove that they gave them the losing tickets and kept the winner for themselves intentionally. There was a similar case in Massachusetts some years back in which a couple traveled out of state to buy lottery tickets for an office pool and picked up a few extra tickets for themselves at the same time. The tickets the couple kept had the jackpo... [ More ]

Comment #66

KY Floyd — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:55:47 GMT

LadyC wrote:<< For the record, the claim was paid that's why the plaintiffs request the defendant's assets be frozen. I find it rather odd that since the lottery proved the ticket came from the block of tickets sold for the group >>Not that I'm the least bit surprised when I find out that a reporter got something wrong, but the article is specific enough in the details about the lottery department saying the ticket hasn't been claimed that it seems unlikely the reporter got it wrong. The articl... [ More ]

Comment #65

KY Floyd — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:52:20 GMT

You're definitely right about the lack of info. It seems the reporter didn't think to ask many questions of the lottery department or the plaintiffs. The defendant probably shouldn't have answered many questiona even if they were asked.As for the proof issue, a lawyer working a civil case on contingency may be willing to press a case that isn't really strong in the hopes that the defendant will offer a settlement that makes the lawyer's time worthwhile, and , maybe we're just looking at it from... [ More ]

Comment #64

libra926 — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:55:46 GMT

HAPPY NEW YEAR RJ ......(last day of dec of 2005)I can appreciate your point. By the same token when I have played among a collective body the purchase is made at lunch time, the tickets all xeroxed, whereby we all rec copies. I don't mind playing among collective bodies as long as the group is small and everyone is very friendly.....However, Salcone was really stupid in how he pursued and implemented his plan.

Comment #63

libra926 — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:43:49 GMT

HAPPY NEW YEAR ONE ALL.....12/31/05.......(last day of Dec last day of 2005) Hi DD .......lolololololol.....and the part of the story that reads: The suit asks for a preliminary injunction restraining the Salcones from transferring, concealing or destroying any of their property and stopping five banks and a credit union from releasing any funds to the Salcones .....Damnation.......lolololololololThe only turnips in this story are the Salcones........... the Court is making rutabagas out... [ More ]

Comment #62

RJOh — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:30:35 GMT

I was in a similar situation one time with some co-workers, but because everyone were friendly and the winning amount was smaller , there wasn't a problem. Before I retired and MegaMellions came to Ohio, it was the BigGame in Michigan. A few of my co-workers had heard a couple of our co-workers were heading up to Michigan after work to buy some BigGame tickets for themselves so ten of us threw $5 into an envelope and asked them to pick up $50 worth of tickets for us. The following Monday those c... [ More ]

Comment #61

Rick G — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:40:23 GMT

KY, we just don't have enough information from the article. When I referred to the defendant having to prove his innocence in court, what I meant was that the prosecution assumes it will be able to meet their burden of proof in the first place or the case would not have made it to trial. Therefore the defendant can either do nothing and let the jury decide if the burden of proof has been met or he can attempt to prove either his innocence or that the prosecution has not met their burden of pro... [ More ]

Comment #60

Michael E. Port — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:00:27 GMT

This might be true in your state, but in Texas you have to decide if you want Cash Option or Annuity. I run two different Lottery Pools and my members want me to buy Cash Option. Several of my members older and would not live to collect all their winnings.For my own tickets I always buy Annuity. But for my group it's always Cash Option. And in Texas how you buy it is how you be able to collect it. You can't change your mind while your in Austin.MichaelMichael E. Porter

Comment #59

Michael E. Port — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:52:28 GMT

Ohio Couple who won $250,000 playing Mega Million discovered the hard way that money can come between friends is a stupid statement. First off Friends don t steal from you. This couple stole $250,000 from people they were using. I run two lottery pools, one of my pools just turned 1 year old on Christmas Day. My Mega Million Pool will be two years old this coming February. My members, who number 18 to 27 people, always get copies of their tickets. I ask everyone who wants to play give me $10... [ More ]

Comment #58

LadyC — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:32:04 GMT

Okay folks.. try this one. You can get by, but you can never get away. The problem with group plays rests with the the leader of the group. When I say leader, I mean one with the moral turpitude to do the right thing and that includes being fair. All lotteries have the ability to determine when, where, and what time an online ticket is purchased. This also confirms why there really is no perfect crime, because you don't know what detail is missing that will get you caught. As for purchasing t... [ More ]

Comment #57

KY Floyd — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:00:25 GMT

The article said the winning ticket came from a block of tickets and wasn't a separate ticket. It says nothing about how many tickets were in the block, and it doesn't say whether or not they were quickpicks. It's still there if you want to look at it again. As a matter of law the defendant doesn't have to prove anything. The burden of proof is on the plaintiff or prosecution. If the prosecution can't prove their claim they shouldn't win. I'd say they don't win, but juries, and occasionally... [ More ]

Comment #56

DoubleDown — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:17:53 GMT

Owwwwwch !!!! Stop it, I give !!! Information overload...... There is a 100% probability I am signing off and going nite nite. Happy New year

Comment #55

rlevins — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:56:15 GMT

I did few searches and found something which somewhat clarifies these.http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/56706.htmlProbability vs. Odds, ExplainedProbability (Chance) and OddsAre Not Quite the Same ThingOdds and probability contain the same information, but express it differently. Say a rectangle is divided into boxes ( 1 X 4 matrix) and fill in onebox. The probability of being colored in is 1/4 or 25% but the odds of being colored in is 1:3 or 0.33.For example, when we may say that

Comment #54

DoubleDown — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:53:56 GMT

I thought after the first quarter that they would win by 40 something.Just shows that ya gotta play 60 minutes.........

Comment #53

cps10 — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:41:55 GMT

I can't believe he stunk it up like that. Just goes to show that USC will NEVER get to that upper echelon in the SEC. Can't even beat Mizzou.

Comment #52

DoubleDown — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:38:07 GMT

Ouch !!! My brain is hurting. Too much thinking for a Friday nite in front of New Years eve.... BTW- Way to represent the SEC Saint Steve, blowing a 21-0 first q lead in the Independence bowl.ARGHHHHHHH

Comment #51

cps10 — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:27:21 GMT

Rick,I will leave that to Rlevins, as he seems to be a little more versed in this subject than I.

Comment #50

Rick G — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:20:39 GMT

Rlevins and Cps,I understand what you guys are saying and will check out the link Rlevins provided. But I can't get past the example I provided above.A one of ten digit game should have the same probabilities (or odds) as any X of N digit game.Can either of you refute the logic of my one digit out of ten example? If so, please explain. I am totally open to your input and would appreciate your feedback. So far I'm not getting it.I don't want to sound like a Vulcan but I need some logic here. (And... [ More ]

Comment #49

cps10 — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:19:05 GMT

LOL...you can't beat that kind of logic, DD

Comment #48

DoubleDown — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:08:40 GMT

Maybe I had one too many Cuervo margaritas tonite...I'm not smart enough to follow all this odds stuff, but I do know this-If I buy one ticket, my odds to win are almost zero.If I buy 0 tickets, my odds are the same. Now this is logic I can follow. DD

Comment #47

RJOh — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:48:15 GMT

Rick G writes: If there are 175 million combinations and you buy 55 tickets your odds of winning are 175 million MINUS 56 (including the winning ticket), not DIVIDED by 55; (that comes out to 174,999,944 to one, not 3,180,000 to one). Put another way, if there are 175 million combinations and you buy 0 tickets your odds of winning are 175 million MINUS 1 (including the winning ticket), not DIVIDED by 0; (that comes out to 174,999,999 to one, not infinity to one or impossible).

Comment #46

cps10 — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:43:17 GMT

RickG - like you were stating in your 10 digit example. That is right. If you play 1 number, then you have a 1/10 chance or 10%. Your odds are 1:10 of winning. The percentage is calculated by dividing the number you have by the number of overall chances.When you play two, then your odds go down to 1/5 or 2/10, meaning you have a 20% chance of winning and an 80% chance of losing. When you are playing the 175 million that you are talking about, and you play 10 sets of numbers, then your chances ar... [ More ]

Comment #45

rlevins — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:29:26 GMT

You can think this in this way , say you buy 175 tickets out of 175 then you have probability of 1. All 175 combinations have equal chance and the sum of probabilities of all numbers would be equal to 1. So to exaplin your others , I am not saying that they disappeared. What I am saying is that when you got your 1 ticket, You have a probability of 1/175 and for others it is 174/175. 1/175 + 174/175 = 1. Similarly if you buy 10 tickets your probability of winning becomes 10/175 and for others it... [ More ]

Comment #44

Rick G — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:47:40 GMT

Rlevins,When you buy 10 combos at 175 million to one odds of hitting the jackpot you are saying that your odds are lowered to 17.5 million to one if I'm not mistaken.I understand what you are saying when you extrapolate and buy all 175 million combos. But this concept would have to be accepted on an extremely sliding scale .But going back to the original example......what happened to those other 174,999,990 combinations that could have beat you? They don't just disappear (as hypersoniq so eloqu... [ More ]

Comment #43

rlevins — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:10:14 GMT

I have seen several posts which say about odds of winning when you buy many tickets and some of which seems to be not correct as far as odds/probability/math are concerned. The concept of odds/prabability is a simple one.When it says odds of 1 in 175 million what it actually means that there are 175 million combinations of winning numbers possible and if you get 1 you have a chance of 1 in 175 million. But if you get 10 differant sets of numbers(tickets) you have a chance of 10 in 175 million i... [ More ]

Comment #42

Rick G — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:59:42 GMT

KY,Maybe I read the article wrong, but I thought it specifically said that the winning ticket came from the same block of tickets purchased at the same time, location and number of tickets purchased (in this case quick picks which makes it easier to decide).The defendant DOES have to refute the prosecution's allegations and therefore PROVE their innocence before a jury without any doubts from the jury before they can be found innocent or guilty.Let's let 12 of his peers figure it out. We don't k... [ More ]

Comment #41

Rick G — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:42:07 GMT

I might add that the IL Lottery has the time stamp down to the SECOND you purchased it.If OH does not have this, they should consider it. If you buy 55 quick picks it takes about a minute to crank them out of the machine. This should be a no-brainer. 55 quick picks in one minute from the same terminal is a block of tickets.

Comment #40

KY Floyd — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:32:14 GMT

Rick G wrote: << Well that would be the case to prove for the defendant. Did the defendant's wife regularly buy 55 quick picks for Friday's MM draw at the same store as her husband did for his pool? Were there 55 tickets in that block of tickets that were sold at the same time from that same terminal...(they are date, time and location coded in IL)? Why would she buy 55 tickets and not 50 or 60? >> The defendant doesn't have to prove anything. It's up to the plaintiffs to prove their case or th... [ More ]

Comment #39

Rick G — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:50:25 GMT

Well that would be the case to prove for the defendant. Did the defendant's wife regularly buy 55 quick picks for Friday's MM draw at the same store as her husband did for his pool? Were there 55 tickets in that block of tickets that were sold at the same time from that same terminal...(they are date, time and location coded in IL)? Why would she buy 55 tickets and not 50 or 60?I will call the store clerks as my next witnesses.I can guarantee that ticket will never be redeemed unless the tearful... [ More ]

Comment #38

TheGameGrl — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:57:24 GMT

Sometimes the issue of Having * integrity* lays heavily in court cases. Since most of the reporters allegations are merely on the sums lets play math here. Any citizen may bring any ludicrious amount to the court systems and ask for it in their case. The FACTS are - rarely are those sums granted or ever paid in winning cases. Even when Major corporation are sued -they dont write out a check to the defendent-instead they tie the case up in appeals. What this gang is doing is typical- its DOESNT p... [ More ]

Comment #37

Rick G — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:32:26 GMT

Interesting story and comments. The pool concept makes sense if you buy into the odds theory that the lotteries propagate, that you divide your odds by the total number of combinations and the number of combinations purchased.This is just not true. If there are 175 million combinations and you buy 55 tickets your odds of winning are 175 million MINUS 56 (including the winning ticket), not DIVIDED by 55; (that comes out to 174,999,944 to one, not 3,180,000 to one). Mathematical fact.My point is... [ More ]

Comment #36

Chewie — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:19:30 GMT

Being in a pool increases the chances of a dispute, but the existence of the pool isn't integral to the nature of the disputes.Since the topic revolves around a lottery pool, it is primary to the discussion. As long as there is (1) more than one person involved and (2) the issue is large sums of money, there will always be a dispute. If it has not happened, it will happened, it is just a matter of the amount. It is like the old Outer Limits show, where the guy was granted one wish, and he wis... [ More ]

Comment #35

KY Floyd — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:44:57 GMT

What would happen if the mere possession of any of your property, whether it was a lottery ticket, a tv set, or your car meant that I owned it and you had no legal recourse? Ownership of a lottery ticket isn't any different than ownership of other property, and the law already covers all of the necessary issues in enough detail. The law spell out the rules, but it can't make people tell the truth and honor any agreements that they've made. The best it can do is try to sort out the truth and ap... [ More ]

Comment #34

ChazzMatt — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:51:27 GMT

The suit asks for a judgment of $350,000 in compensatory damages and $100,000 in punitive damages and a finding that the Salcones not get any share of the winnings. The case is assigned to Judge Andrew Logan.Actually that's smart. They are suing for MORE than the ticket is worth, so he will settle the lawsuit by agreeing to split the money like he should have in the beginning. And if he doesn't settle, then the winnings will pay for lawyer's fee, court costs, and make him have to take out a... [ More ]

Comment #33

tntea — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:36:34 GMT

Comment #32

Chewie — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:27:08 GMT

I wonder what would happen if a lottery ticket was indeed a bearer instrument and no lawsuits based on these he cheated the lottery pool claims were possible.The Trail Lawyers Association have issued a death on sight warrent against you. No one should be allowed to act on their own. That would infer taking responsibility and none of that is allowed any more.

Comment #31

cps10 — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:12:37 GMT

Some of them are, aren't they

Comment #30

tg636 — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:56:32 GMT

I wonder what would happen if a lottery ticket was indeed a bearer instrument and no lawsuits based on these he cheated the lottery pool claims were possible. If the bearer said the ticket is his alone, he gets all the money, if he says he is sharing it with a pool everyone gets a check. It would all depend on the integrity and honesty of the ticket holder, so you would have to choose your friends wisely. If you don't want to risk a friend or coworker walking off with your millions, then do... [ More ]

Comment #29

BabyJC — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:30:46 GMT

This guy sounds like Dora Leal all over again! It's a shame.

Comment #28

Chewie — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:29:39 GMT

I belong to a lottery pool and dern proud of it! Ya'll hear about one or two cases that place a bad image on the whole concept without ever once researching ALL the jackpots that are claimed by groups that dont squabble. Sorry I'm too much a beleiver that there are more good acts of kindness and decency then the ones blown out of proportion by a news report. No where in my groups by laws does it say, you cannot play outside the pool or any member of your family may not buy a ticket and win.!G... [ More ]

Comment #27

RJOh — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:44:45 GMT

When you google Breakfast Buddy , it usually refer to an older group of citizens who not only share breakfast but are generous, trustworthy and a credit to their community. Ronald L. LeMaster, Raymond C. McLean, Kenneth B. Ulrich, Robert Holmes Jr., Steve E. Mrofchak, Joseph Celedonia, Donald C. Hoyle, Philip M. Sidoti, and Joseph M. Sidoti and Robert Cebula no longer believe that of Michael Salcone after the Ohio Lottery Commission confirmed that the ticket was part of a block of tickets and... [ More ]

Comment #26

Raven62 — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:20:27 GMT

Are the remaining 10 still Pooling their Funds to buy MegaMillions Tickets

Comment #25

KY Floyd — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:21:27 GMT

If everyone in the pool is cooperative photocopies handed out ahead of time might prevent problems, but if there's a dispute they probably won't mean anything since the only thing they can conclusively prove is that tickets with those numbers were photcopied. Your fellow pool members might accept them as proof that you bought the right number of tickets, but if you also bought a significant winner that you claim doesn't belong to them there's nothing but their honesty to prevent them from simply... [ More ]

Comment #24

LOTTOMIKE — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:03:10 GMT

DON'T be like mike.......that man is greedy and cheated his friends.

Comment #23

LckyLary — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:30:41 GMT

The pool purchaser always provide everyone in the pool a photo copy of the purchased tickets. They should be quick picks only. The ones YOU play should be manual pick only. Try to avoid being the pool purchaser if you can

Comment #22

KY Floyd — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:01:28 GMT

TheGameGrl wrote:<< I beg to differ against the folks who presume the ticket WASNT purchase by the wife. She could just have easily bought a series of tickets that day or a few days earlier. >>It's certainly possible that the ticket was bought separately from the pool, whether by the wife or no. Based on what's in the article there are a lot of claims by the people suing, but not a lot of facts. One of the claims doesn't ring true, though. Why would it take a month for the store to put up a sig... [ More ]

Comment #21

fxdwg — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:29:38 GMT

kiss the proof concept goodbye. Some one will always accuse you of fudging the ticket Years back when I was still working I would travel over the state line to play power ball often some of my co-workers would ask me to pick up a ticket for them. I would always say NO as if I won how would you know that I did not use your ticket (all would ask just to get them a qp) They would say oh we trust you. I agree with chewie. I only trust myself and that's a questionable choice. All these suits makes it... [ More ]

Comment #20

TheGameGrl — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:24:04 GMT

I beg to differ against the folks who presume the ticket WASNT purchase by the wife. She could just have easily bought a series of tickets that day or a few days earlier.I belong to a lottery pool and dern proud of it! Ya'll hear about one or two cases that place a bad image on the whole concept without ever once researching ALL the jackpots that are claimed by groups that dont squabble. Sorry I'm too much a beleiver that there are more good acts of kindness and decency then the ones blown out... [ More ]

Comment #19

Chewie — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:10:13 GMT

If you're in a pool, and you're buying the tickets, kiss the proof concept goodbye. Some one will always accuse you of fudging the tickets. Once the first person accuses you of something, the remainder of the group will automatically form a mob, making you out to to be the worst person on the planet. Whether your are guilty, or not, makes no difference. Nothing greater then beating your chest

Comment #18

cps10 — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:44:47 GMT

That's exactly why I don't buy extra tickets outside of my lottery pool.

Comment #17

tg636 — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:34:53 GMT

The lesson is, as usual, if you are in a lottery pool don't pretend a ticket you bought was an extra one purchased with your own dollar unless you have proof. I might go in with one friend on a lottery ticket, but if I won something big with my extra ticket I would certainly expect to give something to my losing partner anyway. Either go it alone or split it with the group, but don't try to have it both ways.

Comment #16

Chewie — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:30:15 GMT

Usually it is the odd man out complaining, this time it appears the ticket buyer was the scum. It never fails, the pack animal mentality of humans is doomed from the beginning. Learn to stand on your own two feet and you won't have to worry about friends cheating you. I met a lot of guys in the Army I would trust my life with, but I wouldn't trust the guy across the street with my dirty laundry.

Comment #15

rlevins — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:10:03 GMT

May be this guy is not a thief and his buddies are jealous of his win and trying to make his life miserable. There are many who would like/work to make your life like hell if they remain miserable/poor and you suddenly become rich. If you are in a pool and even if someone else other than you bought the pool's ticket and by your good luck you won on your own ticket. The remaining memebers can lie against you and say that you bought the ticket and you may not have any thing to defend yourself unle... [ More ]

Comment #14

emilyg — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:05:55 GMT

or meowed

Comment #13

RJOh — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:02:07 GMT

Buddies and money don't mix. The only Buddy I've ever trusted walked on four legs and barked when I feed him and he never asked for a ent.

Comment #12

Littleoldlady — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:34:42 GMT

He is a sneak and a thief. He should have known that they would find out..it is sad that many people seem to display a lack of honesty and morals when it comes to money. Makes me wonder if that is a commonplace thing in his life...lying and stealing. I wonder how his bosses look at him now.

Comment #11

fja — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:25:31 GMT

When some of the group members saw a sign a few days later indicating that the Giant Eagle on Elm Road had sold a $250,000 winning ticket, they asked and were told the winner was Salcone, the suit says. Salcone then indicated the winner was his wife but she played the game on a Tuesday, not a Friday, it says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>Here is the opposite side of the argument of why your name has to be made public if you win.....If this guy did what he did,,,he should probably want to cut a deal before thi... [ More ]

Comment #10

LottoVantage — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:50:25 GMT

This guy is a liar and a thief stealing from honest friends that put their trust in him. If they get this kind of judgement against him then he gets what he deserves. I'm sure the lawyer they get to represent their case will more than make up for the difference in the settlement.

Comment #9

DoubleDown — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:44:53 GMT

The part about freezing your bank account is a big enough deterrent for me.

Comment #8

konane — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:28:41 GMT

Only ones getting rich are attorneys.

Comment #7

jsk2001 — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:25:43 GMT

The suit asks for a preliminary injunction restraining the Salcones from transferring, concealing or destroying any of their property and stopping five banks and a credit union from releasing any funds to the Salcones. not to mention having your bank account frozen...

Comment #6

cps10 — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:18:22 GMT

This is crazy....this is beginning to happen daily. I imagine if one of my friends wins a $300 million jackpot, I am going to sue them for over $500 million. Seems just, doesn't it

Comment #5

Grammy3 — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:10:16 GMT

Stay out of pools. Your best friends will shoot you in the head

Comment #4

DoubleDown — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:45:55 GMT

Stay out of the pool !! It's too cold this time of year anyway

Comment #3

RJOh — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:25:04 GMT

It(the suit) asks for a judgment of $350,000 in compensatory damages and $100,000 in punitive damages and a finding that the Salcones not get any share of the winnings. The case is assigned to Judge Andrew Logan. That's a new twist, take a $250,000 ticket and get suited for $450,000. It's like real estate, buy a $250,000 house and 2 months later, it worth $450,000.

Comment #2

Todd — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:24:46 GMT

Lottery pools do not increase your chances of winning big games like Powerball or Mega Millions all that much, and commonly introduce problems if you win.

Comment #1

JAP69 — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:17:00 GMT

Join a lottery pool.I do not think so. I'll pull my own turnips.

Breakfast buddies file suit over lottery ticket

Lottery Post — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:12:00 GMT

A Howland, Ohio couple who won $250,000 playing Mega Millions discovered the hard way that money can come between friends.Michael Salcone and his wife, Theresa, of Gretchen Drive have been sued by 10 of Michael Salcone's former breakfast friends at the Elm Road McDonald's after a dispute arose over whose money bought a winning lottery ticket. I'm just astounded, Theresa Salcone said Wednesday when she learned of the suit, filed in Trumbull County Common Pleas Court.According to the filing, the... [ More ]