Online gambling threatened by U.S. legislators

Comment #35

wass2000 — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:29:14 GMT

Well Written, I Totally agree.

It seems we always need to blame somebody else for our failures. or even sometimes move responsibilities and dicsion-making for somebody else, it is easier that way.

Wass

Comment #34

Todd — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 03:00:21 GMT

Well said

Comment #33

Jimiam — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:33:47 GMT

Regarding the post on fair tax. You will never see the end of Irs. Why? Because they are private collection agency for our scam banking system we have today and pigs in Washington are paid well by these banking pigs. Get it. Your current Pres himself is powerless to these European scamsters. He is just a peon and a gopher to them. And as far as your Constitutional rights; well you really have none my friend. Only what rights your Pres decides to give you as privilege. This is why you have a lice... [ More ]

Comment #32

MADDOG10 — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:17:27 GMT

The legislation to be debated blends two versions of bills that have been offered by Rep. Bob Goodlatte of Virginia and Rep. Jim Leach of Iowa, the two said in a statement.

What needs to be done, is they need to investigate these two fine fellow citizens whom are supposed to be politicians. I wonder if the lobbyist have fattened their bank accounts over this. There is a paper trail everywhere.

If they're really that concerned over this, they need to go after the sites that allow under... [ More ]

Comment #31

gandolph — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:47:13 GMT

Our day in America is the Age of Irresponsibility. In other words, the National Motto ought to be changed to It isn't my fault. So far as Internet wagering, sweeps, and lottery go, the rationale that it is too easily within reach of minors illustrates my thesis.

Minor children are the responsibility of their parents.

Parental authority is equal to parental responsibility.

Society is not responsibile for the behavior of juvniles; parents are. Parents should either totally restric... [ More ]

Comment #30

Todd — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 17:23:31 GMT

dvdiva and Saleo,

You both make perfect sense to me

Comment #29

Saleo Paleo — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 17:21:07 GMT

Our legislators have far more to worry about than online gambling,they should give more attention to how they are spending our tax dollars,I'm sure lot's of our tax dollars are spent on gambling by these so called Congressmen and Senators.on there foreign trips to those countries,with gambling facilities.

Comment #28

dvdiva — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 16:20:49 GMT

I think those in favor of online gambling bans should also favor total gambling bans. If you want to ban gambling in the privacy of your own home where it doesn't add traffic or crime out on the streets then banning all casinos and lotteries in the US should also make sense. Clearly people can waste their money at either.

Comment #27

Todd — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 15:31:10 GMT

You are not making any sense.

You say how great it would be to ban online gambling, and then go on to say that people over 18/21 (whatever that means) should be allowed to gamble online.

Do you really have an opinion on this? Please explain why you think it would be good to ban people from online gambling.

Comment #26

konane — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 15:15:30 GMT

I'm very much in favor of individual state lotteries being able to sell tickets online.

Were it legal then I would do so in the comfort of my own home just like any other online purchase.

.... also feel that ticket sales would be increased for all state lotteries set up to sell online.

I suppose the bill being considered before congress is why Georgia tabled their online ticket sales proposal until whatever legislation makes its way through on a federal level.

Comment #25

Just6ntlc — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 14:47:55 GMT

If legislators ban online gambling, that would be great. People will have to travel from state to state buying other state's lotto. I think people should do online gambling should be 18/21 or over.

Comment #24

CalifBoy — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 05:10:14 GMT

I'm wondering, if legistlature of this nature were to be adopted by both the house and the senate, how would this affect sites like BetSlips and PTS? Since I am paying them for the service of purchasing a legitimate ticket, which they are not transporting across State lines, nor making copies of do you think they would be continue to be allowed to operate?

To me, it seems a lot different than gambling on some site that makes up its own games.

Comment #23

Todd — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 21:07:47 GMT

Just so everyone is aware, J0026 signed up using a false location, breaking the rules, and I have a very strong feeling that they are not who they appear to be. It is someone I have to continually get rid off because they keep trolling the forums with anti-gambling nonsense.

Nobody needs to be concerned, just carry on as usual and ignore the ignoramus.

Comment #22

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 20:45:05 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by J0026 on July 8, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by LckyLary on July 8, 2006 This is the only real problem I have with online gambling: I keep seeing a signature line on here that says to Elminiate all computerized drawings . I agree with that. Computerized drawings can be easily rigged to draw a combination that has the least amount of tickets picking it. i.e. instead of Pick 4 1978 it picks Pick 4 8885 which is much less popular. With a real drawing you see the b... [ More ]

Comment #21

teacake58 — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 20:35:13 GMT

hear hear Fair Tax

Comment #20

orangeman — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 19:00:47 GMT

Hsvscubaski:

I agree with your point. Being in the Constitution, however, has nothing to do with my argument. Just because it isn't in the Constitution doesn't mean the true-believing nuts won't raise hell about it. If you haven't noticed, the Constitution has little to do with what Congress does anymore. They pretty much do what they please. The Consitution also has nothing to do with what the politically-correct liberals believe. It just gets in their way.

Orangeman... [ More ]

Comment #19

LckyLary — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:51:15 GMT

This is the only real problem I have with online gambling: I keep seeing a signature line on here that says to "Elminiate all computerized drawings". I agree with that. Computerized drawings can be easily rigged to draw a combination that has the least amount of tickets picking it. i.e. instead of Pick 4 "1978" it picks Pick 4 "8885" which is much less popular. With a real drawing you see the balls mixing and that it would be almost impossible to cause certain ones to float up into the chute. (T... [ More ]

Comment #18

hsvscubaski — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:05:12 GMT

The Fair Tax also indirectly taxes such thing as drugs and prostitution. When they spend the proceeds from their illegal activities they pay the 23% tax. For those of you that don't know it you are already paying a 23% more or less tax on things you buy. When a manufacturor pays taxes he passes it on to you and studies show that it's about the same as you would pay in the new sales tax. and when the employers don't have to pay the taxes prices will come down.

Comment #17

hsvscubaski — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:50:05 GMT

Well said Jim 695. However they do listen when enough people get behind something. Write your represenatives and ask where they stand on the Fair Tax and if they don't support why not. They had a Fair Tax rally in Atlanta last month and had 6000 in attendance with more trying to get in. There is another one in Orlando on 29 July. Go to Boortz.com for info if you live in the area. And if the Fair Tax became law we would not have to pay a federal tax when we hit the BIG ONE.

Comment #16

konane — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:45:32 GMT

Thanks!!!

Another thing with Fair Tax is that the feds could levy that 23% surcharge on all wire transfers of $$$$$ out of the country being made by Mexicans and other nationalities sending US $$$ to their families. Folks it isn't just the Mexicans sending money home ... it's just that they're in the news now.

Build in the 23% into sites allowed to perform $$$ transfers.

Yes millions of $$$ are being wired out from untapped underground economies and all they're trying to do is r... [ More ]

Comment #15

jim695 — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:21:03 GMT

Unfortunately, our legislators couldn't care less about what we want or what we think.

Our entire political process has become party-driven, and lawmakers' individual decisions regarding how they vote on any given issue are prioritized according to Democratic or Republican agendas; the needs and desires of the common constituency are only recognized if they have an organized lobby (pronounced: Special Interest Groups) donating to their party's campaigns.

This will never change until p... [ More ]

Comment #14

hsvscubaski — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 11:08:08 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by orangeman on July 8, 2006

This is how we nip this foolishness in the bud. Find a legislator willing to attach a rider to the bill blocking porn sites along with the gambling sites. This would turn the matter into a freedom of speech issue and would considerably muddy the waters. No one would touch it either way because no matter how they vote, someone would be upset and our solons hate to alienate any type of voter. By doing it this way, the ACLU would get invo... [ More ]

Comment #13

hsvscubaski — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 11:02:33 GMT

Amen to the Fair Tax!!!!! For those of you that don't know about it there is a Fair Tax book writen by Congressman Linder and talk show host Neil Boortz. Good read amkes a lot of sense but the olny way it will go any where is a ground swell of popular support. It gets rid of the IRS and takes the lobboyist influnence ( and the big bucks they make) out of polotics

Comment #12

orangeman — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 04:06:45 GMT

This is how we nip this foolishness in the bud. Find a legislator willing to attach a rider to the bill blocking porn sites along with the gambling sites. This would turn the matter into a freedom of speech issue and would considerably muddy the waters. No one would touch it either way because no matter how they vote, someone would be upset and our solons hate to alienate any type of voter. By doing it this way, the ACLU would get involved along with the PTA and parents groups of all stripes.... [ More ]

Comment #11

konane — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 03:52:19 GMT

Pass the Fair Tax which eliminated all Federal payroll taxes where you bring home all the money you make less state taxes if applicable.

Make internet gambling legal and tack a 23% federal tax on the amount spent on your bets online (remember you won't be taxed on what you win) and be done with the whole matter.

The government gets paid, internet gamblers get to do as they choose legally.

Win/win for all.

Comment #10

weshar75 — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 02:58:47 GMT

The bottom lines is that internet gambling is a billion dollar industry and congress needs every tax dollar they can out of gambling americans to pay for services. In it's very essence it is a form of control. Just like when americans find new ways through technology or advances to save money. You will find a politician introducing bills and legislation to tax that new form. It is just a simple way to control or enslave the masses.-weshar75

Comment #9

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:22:41 GMT

politicians are really legit hustlers in my book.they are just as wormy as the guy spraying my wind shield on the corner for 2 bucks.the hustle is different but its all the same........

Comment #8

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:20:53 GMT

If they block gambling sites, they should go all the way and block porn sites, too.

i agree.and i also think porn is a lot worse than gambling so they need

focus on if little ricky is doing dirty things instead of worring about me betting a boxed hit in idaho.

Comment #7

orangeman — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:47:56 GMT

If they block gambling sites, they should go all the way and block porn sites, too. This probably won't happen because the gambling and pron sites will bribe those blood-sucking pigs in Washington and it will all go away.

Orangeman

Comment #6

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:36:47 GMT

That is what they do in Red China, so I suppose it is possible.

good point you made there orangeman

the day the untied states does this it will be a sad day and a strike against our freedoms and what we stand for.

Comment #5

orangeman — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:33:09 GMT

The real issue is the fact that the online casinos compete with the state lotteries and infringe on their monopolies. I personally feel that the bill would not be enforcable unless the government finds a way to block sites. That is what they do in Red China, so I suppose it is possible. One more freedom down the drain, I guess.

Orangeman

Comment #4

Bradly_60 — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 20:55:22 GMT

If all gambling sites were fraudulent then I would say this would be something we need to look at. But come on. So many sites out there are very legitamate and when they start infringing on our rights like this...we know American is going down the wrong path.

And how much more can they do to stop minors from gambling. Most sites require credit cards, things that minors can't have and also they usually make you submit some sort of valid identification. You can't do more to stop minor from... [ More ]

Comment #3

wass2000 — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 18:44:25 GMT

Come on, this got nothing to do with scams or minority protection. This is all about protecting the interests of the Casinos in Las Vegas, Atlantic city and ........ What really is bothring them is the fact that millions are generated on the internet without been able to get a piece of the action. untaxed and unregulated and are sucking billions of dollars out of the United States . By the way a lot of those online casinos are owned by americans.

Comment #2

Fibonacci — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:38:09 GMT

According to the bits I read, the targets of the bill are those foreign-based sites --to cut down the risk of Americans getting scammed and to protect minors from online gambling. I agree these arguments sound flimsy...

Comment #1

Tenaj — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:28:26 GMT

Thank you Todd for the information and the editor's notes. Good read.

Online gambling threatened by U.S. legislators

Lottery Post — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:32:37 GMT

Editor's Note: Lottery Post is firmly against any attempts to limit the peoples' right to do as they wish on the Internet, including online gaming. Although anti-gambling lobbyists and legislators continue to sound the same alarm about gambling by minors and gambling addiction , we believe both of those arguments apply to such a small fraction of people that the rights of the vast majority of the Internet population are being taken away needlessly and carelessly. People have a right to do... [ More ]