Men threaten discrimination suit against N.M. Lottery

Comment #18

psykomo — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:27:35 GMT

.....GoForIt>

Give-up 1/2 your paycheck.....back to BOSS....... BRAVE HEARTS

OR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>......BECOME a NASTY capitalist?????

OR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>......JUST ask for what YOU DERSERVE

EQUAL Days Pay for equal DAY's

......... WORK ..........

Comment #17

psykomo — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:33:18 GMT

THIS IS ONLY A............... SUGGESTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to all Post member's who donot object to HANGING 40# SIGN.........

GET OFF YOUR..........ASSET's and........ TRY-IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF you like to drive/ ride in your car,DRIVE extra 400 miles a week!!

IF you work 40 hours a week.............WORK an extra 20 hours!!!!!!!

IF you get a raise from your BOSS......after all this EXTRA EFFORT.....

ask them to KEEP-IT...........................and explain to the BOSS, w... [ More ]

Comment #16

KY Floyd — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:12:59 GMT

Whether or not somebody can afford to retire has absolutely nothing to do with it. If you're a bilionaire and your employer discriminates against you then you have a valid claim. If you earn mimimimum wage and don't have a dime of savings and your employer doesn't discriminate you, then that's just too bad, and your only recourse is to take responsibility for yourself and improve your own life.

The story clearly says that all of the sales reps were asked to hang signs and all refused because... [ More ]

Comment #15

Drivedabizness — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:47:17 GMT

I hate to give away my age...but I'm old enough to remember a time when Secretaries (not admin assistants) still fetched coffee and it was not uncommon to see racy posters on personal office walls. People were even allowed to smoke in their office, or in the breakroom. They had Christmas parties and someone always dressed up as Santa...

Still - the fact that someone would say that to you is shocking to me.

I did some checking. When I worked with the Lottery in NM they had 14 sales reps... [ More ]

Comment #14

DoubleDown — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:33:13 GMT

You kill me...

Comment #13

justxploring — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:17:52 GMT

Yes, I agree too, it might not be age discrimination, and those are good points that any lawyer will surely examine. My first comments were only answering remarks made on the subject. I've been treated unfairly at jobs, but I never sued anyone. When I was in my 20s I once asked a manager Will there be anything else, Sir? and he said Yeah, how about a blow job? He thought it was funny but I didn't. That doesn't mean that I was the only person he annoyed, but most people just put up with p... [ More ]

Comment #12

Just6ntlc — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:54:25 GMT

That's a great topic. What's the discrimination all about

Comment #11

Todd — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:40:30 GMT

Excellent points, great post. I would like to know myself.

Comment #10

Drivedabizness — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:02:53 GMT

I know both Ken and Jack. Both great guys, but with a tendency to push back on any attempts to raise the performance bar.

Both (but especially Jack) have significant levels of windshield time in working their routes, which include large geographical areas with low population and retailer density. The article doesn't say how many sales employees were cut - just that the Lottery cut 11 positions.

162 retailers is a lot - I don't know a single sales rep in any of the Western US states tha... [ More ]

Comment #9

psykomo — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:01:52 GMT

Increasing the sales territory by 70% and decreasing sales............ positions by 11 ( old people )............. must have required....... the brains of a HAVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL............................ JANITOR

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

What are your qualifications,...................Mr. Tom Romero, CEO

HOW much does your SALARY BENEFIT$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

cost the CHILDREN's college FUND each year????????????????????

I would be su... [ More ]

Comment #8

RJOh — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:54:48 GMT

I am certain they would not seek to start buying lottery tickets in hopes of winning in order to fund their retirement!

Why not? Lots of old people are winning lotteries too.

Comment #7

OldSchoolPa — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:13:53 GMT

justxploring:

I acknowledge there are people in their old age who are still contributing to society and I have no problem with them continuing to work/lead normal lives just as long as they are still being productive and not endangering the lives of other people. As I stated, in the case of airline pilots, they should be allowed to continue to pilot jets as long as they pass all performance tests and health checks. The key difference between my personal story and the examples you cited i... [ More ]

Comment #6

jarasan — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:26:27 GMT

Increasing someones sales territory to an unmanageble size or adding more responsibilties to a persons work load is a typical management tactic used to cause job frustration and dissatisfaction. It also allows management to set artificial and unattainable goals to screw the employee on the next job review. If what the lottery did is true, I believe they may have a case. Whether it is age, sex or race it is still a form of discrimination no matter what, especially in a democrat controlled sta... [ More ]

Comment #5

justxploring — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:08:48 GMT

Maybe when you are in your 60s you will look back and reflect on this post, OldSchool. This has nothing to do with accepting personal responsibility.

he stopped working in that capacity and retired to tend to his vegetable and flower gardens.

Good for him! But not everyone can retire at 60 or 65. Also, you might not realize it, but the above statement is very insulting. Sounds like .. Let's take all the old people and put them in flower gardens to keep them happy. There are pe... [ More ]

Comment #4

OldSchoolPa — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:33:37 GMT

No I am not 61 or even close to it. But I do have a thorough understanding of work/job requirements and productivity. Now the airlines placed a mandatory retirement age in effect back in the days when American's life expectancy as well as vibrancy in old age was not as long or as vital as it is now what with the advancements in medicine as well as improved healthy lifestyles. I believe that if someone has the capabilities to perform a given task, they should be allowed to continue to do so re... [ More ]

Comment #3

justxploring — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:44:16 GMT

Thank you

Comment #2

Littleoldlady — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:07:40 GMT

You must not be 61. Age discrimination is very real. It is normally disguished as job change requirements.

Comment #1

OldSchoolPa — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:46:27 GMT

Dahlstrom said his sales territory expanded from 94 retailers to 162 this year. That was not the job that I was hired to do, he said.

Sue, sue, sue, that's all everyone wants to do. It is clear this guy thinks he is a union worker instead of a sales worker; I've run into a lot of union workers in my 10+ year stint in the US Navy...guys telling me, That is not my job... You never here a startup businessman/entrepreneur say that a certain thing is not their job. If he can't fulfil... [ More ]

Men threaten discrimination suit against N.M. Lottery

Lottery Post — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:50:10 GMT

Sales representatives say they were forced out because of age

Two sales representatives who resigned Friday from the New Mexico Lottery said they were forced out by being given more work so they could be replaced by younger employees with lower pay. The two men, Ken Dahlstrom, 61, and Jack Minter, 67, said they are considering an age-discrimination lawsuit against the lottery.

Both men have worked at the lottery since its inception in 1996. Dahlstrom and Minter said they were not fired or