Lottery Winner's Lucky Day Turns into One Heck of a Mess

Comment #19

KY Floyd — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:50:24 GMT

Welcome to the world of news reporting. She definitely didn't buy the ticket during that visit, because it's a raffle game, but there's nothing in the article to suggest she did or didn't buy it there when they were on sale. Perhaps she mentioned where she bought it, perhaps the lottery didn't bother asking, or perhaps they claimed it was a gift.

IMHO, the NY lottery has at least one huge flaw in their security procedures for online games. The exact time the ticket is issued is printed on... [ More ]

Comment #18

justxploring — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:26:21 GMT

Okay, then perhaps the article was referring to something other than an actual receipt for the prize. It just doesn't sound as if the Lottery Office did its homework before paying off the clerks. After all, how would the thieves know where it was originally purchased? The article indicates to me that the ticket wasn't purchased at the Mobil Station, just that the woman walked in to check them. The article reads: New York State Lottery and the GTECH, their parent security firm it's impenetr... [ More ]

Comment #17

KY Floyd — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:39:22 GMT

The ticket wasn't paid, so it was still a valid ticket that was payable at one of the lottery's offices. Past stories indicate that sometimes when a store clerk only checks a winning ticket they can void it as if it had been paid, but that can't be done for a ticket that has to be redeemed at a lottery office unless there's something seriously wrong with the system. As far as the receipt, you obviously don't leave an unpaid ticket at a store that can't pay it (at least not deliberately), so wh... [ More ]

Comment #16

Coin Toss — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:12:51 GMT

Let's think about this, given the info in the OP.

If the whole thing is on surveillance tapes, the clerks acknowledged the ticket was a winner, thus they know that the player was the rightful winner.

Having that knowledge, the player wins the money, and the clerk and accomplices crank out license plates.

This is goung to be another one of those threads where, if the people saying It's her fault were her, they'd be screaming like banshees.

Comment #15

justxploring — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:21:47 GMT

Imagine you just found out you won $25,000 in the lottery. You get a receipt but in your haste, you actually leave the ticket at the store.

Disagree. In fact, if she got a receipt for the winning ticket after validation, how did the clerks cash it in at Lottery Headquarters?

I'm not stupid, but am I missing something here? When you scan a ticket, doesn't it have a bar code that is read? Then the terminal indicates winner or no winner so how can it be scanned and processed AF... [ More ]

Comment #14

KY Floyd — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:40:18 GMT

There's absolutely nothing different here. The ticket is a bearer instrument. It says so right on the back. I know because I've ben told over and over and over. I've also been told over and over and over that a bearer instrument belongs to the person who has it. Somebody found a bearer instrument. They didn't steal it. They found it after it was lost by the person who owned it before losing it. The only choices are that it belongs to them because it's a bearer instrument, or simply having posses... [ More ]

Comment #13

TheGameGrl — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:56:03 GMT

Thank you Pacattack05 for clarifying the difference. Some folks just needed a refresher course.

-Receipt claim adds fuel to the ladys rightfull claim.

Comment #12

pacattack05 — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:38:51 GMT

This is totally different. They knew that the person got a receipt and willingly tried to cash the scratch ticket anyway.

That dicussion forum post was about finding a ticket by itself, not having a clue as to who lost it.

If I worked at a store and knowingly checked a winning ticket to be a winner, and saw the ticket left on the counter, i would be downright foolish to try cashing it in. That's just dumb.

No comparison. Nice try though....

Comment #11

KyMystikal — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:32:29 GMT

1. transitive and intransitive verb take something unlawfully: to take something that belongs to somebody else, illegally or without the owner's permission

That lawsuit would be thrown out because the clerks knew it was her ticket so it was stealing. I think it would have been a difference if someone had come into the store and got all the trash looking for winning tickets that people throw away by accident it would have been more difficult for the actual winner. I'm thinking once you... [ More ]

Comment #10

Guru101 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:16:06 GMT

It's her own fault.

Comment #9

rdc137 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:06:59 GMT

I know this sounds cruel, but if the ticket was left on the counter, and it was not signed, then I'd say too damn bad. If I was charged with stealing it, I would sue the police for false charges.

Bottom line: He who signs it first keeps it.

Comment #8

spy153 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:13:00 GMT

I think they need to print in big bold letters "do not leave at store with the clerk if you have a winning ticket" so folks like me will not be fooled. Everytime I have a winning ticket they keep the thing. I would think they were suppose to keep that one too., but only if I got the MONEY in my hand in exchange. Not a receipt.

Comment #7

sector46 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:05:10 GMT

I read the Clerk was caught with the drugs, not the ticket buyer

Comment #6

ochoop17 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:18:20 GMT

Maybe she was taken hydrocodone pill.

Comment #5

sector46 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:56:44 GMT

Well there you go . Woman Leaves $25,000 winning lotto ticket with store clerks DUHHH, what do you think is gonna happen ? I think it's her own fault for getting herself into such a mess. Why would she leave a winning ticket THERE ? Makes no sense.

Comment #4

KY Floyd — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:59:58 GMT

They're not thieves. They found an unsigned winning ticket that had been lost. Almost everyone here knows that makes them the rightful owners.

Comment #3

tnlotto1 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:00:23 GMT

im glad they caught these thieves

Comment #2

DoubleDown — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:55:13 GMT

And, as Ron White says : You can't fix stupid.

Comment #1

Raven62 — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:25:17 GMT

Stupid Is As Stupid Does!

They are what they did

Lottery Winner's Lucky Day Turns into One Heck of a Mess

Lottery Post — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:33:05 GMT

The lure of quick cash from someone else's winning lottery ticket now has three women facing some serious charges, after their alleged plan proved to be very unlucky.

Imagine you just found out you won $25,000 in the lottery. You get a receipt but in your haste, you actually leave the ticket at the store. And when you got back, it is gone. Well, that is just what happened to a 24-year-old Tina-Marie Ware from Rensselaer. She kept looking and looking and finally, needed the State Police to... [ More ]