Iowa court says man can't collect casino winnings

Comment #29

lucky6025 — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:12:41 GMT

This is the best yet.This really happened in 2000 in Mass.A man bought 10 consecutive scratch tickets in local store while walking to his truck he dropped one not realizing itAlong comes family and 8yr old girl picks ticket up and scratches it in car.turns out its a winner of $100,000.00.Family gets so excited tells people and local press show up and do big story about it and parents claim the ticket as theirs.Now its huge news all over TV with interviews and everything. man that bought the tick... [ More ]

Comment #28

bashley572 — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:01:42 GMT

Yea, that is why you hear the phrase 'grind out' a winning system, a little at a time. I used to play craps at the near by Indian casino, often the big winners would only come to the table for no more than 15-20 minutes, win big and leave.

Comment #27

LANTERN — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:08:36 GMT

Since most people are Luck Players , most people don't have to worry about winning too much, unless some-time somehow they become very lucky.

Comment #26

LANTERN — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:02:26 GMT

Not to worry about that, after all they quit selling tickets long before the draw and they are the ones who hold the draws.

Comment #25

LANTERN — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:56:53 GMT

If you win big and or often at cards they say that you count them, so you are not allowed to use winning techniques at casinos, system players should then stay away from casinos and or just win a little at a time and quit playing before they win too much.

If a person won at the roulette too much and or too often, what will they accuse that person of? Maybe they will just not pay and ban that person.

Comment #24

joker831 — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:21:24 GMT

Casinos can and will do anything they want. Law doesn't even come into thier reality. That wasn't the first time that has happened to me in Las Vegas. Most casinos will let you win a little. Enough to keep you comming back. Try winning at the table games for large sums for a prolonged period of time. If that happens then in thier eyes you MUST be cheating. I have friends that are slot techs and dealers in various games. They have told me some stories and I have been witnessed to some and even li... [ More ]

Comment #23

rdgrnr — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:51:14 GMT

It's like I said earlier - you're quite welcome to lose a lot but you're not allowed to win a lot. If you win a lot you must be cheating and you will be thrown out and barred.

And the definition of cheating in casinos is winning.

Nice racket, eh? Next best thing to being the IRS.

Comment #22

tiggs95 — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:04:34 GMT

Am I understanding right?..They kept 11,000 that you won?..It's not against the law to count cards but if the casinos catch you doing it they can make you leave but not take the money you've won?..

Comment #21

Coin Toss — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:27:10 GMT

On table games casinos are paranoid about players being underage. There's exceptions, maybe truck stops somewhere with a BJ table.

There's a place on I-15 (or was, not sure it's still there) where the guy who fueled up the trucks and was a cashier would deal blackjack if someone wanted to play.

But a big casino isn't going to risk it's license so someone underage can make a bet.

One night we carded a Hawaiin lady, who looked verey young. Surprise! She was 40

Comment #20

time*treat — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:49:21 GMT

That whole concerned about the integrity of the games thing doesn't come to the fore while the players are losing, just when they win a bunch.

Comment #19

truecritic — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 00:16:10 GMT

Giving it some more thought...

What if someone underage has cigarettes - they lose their cigarettes, get fined and don't get their money back for the illegal cigarettes.

What if someone underage buys a $20 scratch off ticket and loses - they can't claim they were underage and demand a refund. Hopefully if they win, they give it to someone old enough to cash it. What's the penalty for holding a lottery ticket when you are underage?

If you buy a stolen car (not knowing it was stolen) and... [ More ]

Comment #18

truecritic — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:41:36 GMT

OUCH!

Of course, what they put into the slot would've been a pittance but they shouldn't lose their own money.

If someone looked underage at your table, did you let them play anyway? Or were you supposed to card them before handing them the dice (cards, whatever

Comment #17

larry3100 — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:07:14 GMT

I don't trust casino's.I hear too many bad stories about casino's. If your on a one armed slot and you win big time, the management says the payline must be exactly on and you think your on it , management looks at it and says YOU LOSE .You get angry and management just smiles. Anyone for a Quick Pick ?.

Comment #16

Coin Toss — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:22:08 GMT

truecritic,

I can understand the ruling but it doesn't say if the casino gave him back his money that he had when he walked in?

Darn good point. There was a cast at Caesar's in Vegas where someone won a large jackpot on a progressive slot. I forgrt the amoung but it was six figures. Casino surveillance had it all on film (cameras are always on such machines, a dedicated camera if you will).

Everything was on the up and up, but, when the guy who pulled the handle went to the cage for t... [ More ]

Comment #15

Grovel — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:07:49 GMT

I have to agree The guy knew he was banned yet he went back. It would be the same thing if a 17 year old bought a scratch off ticket and won. They have no right to the money.

Comment #14

luckyshoes — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:43:02 GMT

Gee.... do you think banned means come back in when you want

Comment #13

grave — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:32:25 GMT

Comment #12

emilyg — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 04:07:50 GMT

Comment #11

sully16 — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:04:30 GMT

casinos SUCK. Thats all i got to say.

Comment #10

rdgrnr — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 01:30:40 GMT

You're not just unlikely to beat the casinos - you're not allowed to.

Comment #9

duckman — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:10:42 GMT

The casino definition of cheating: cheaters are those who win too much

Comment #8

time*treat — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:36:44 GMT

Not in an overt way; more likely they'd publicize how lucky you were until the extra unwelcome attention you'd get from the public would cause you to go elsewhere.

Comment #7

ThatScaryChick — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:38:06 GMT

I don't feel too sorry for him. He knew he was banned from that casino, yet he kept trespassing and going back. If he wants to win and keep his money, he needs to go to a casino that he isn't banned from.

Comment #6

RJOh — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:20:16 GMT

I wonder if states could do the same thing if someone came up with a winning strategy based on their observations of numbers that had come up in previous drawings? After all what casinos call counting cards is simply watching and noting what's happening in order to develop a strategy for winning. I guess states could avoid that problem by not allowing players to pick their own numbers and just selling QPs.

Comment #5

HaveABall — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:19:21 GMT

in 1996 According to court documents, Blackford had been issued a trespass ban because he hit and damaged a slot machine. The ban, according to Prairie Meadows, was permanent. Blackford pleaded guilty to criminal mischief and paid a fine.

He was found at the casino [again] in March 1998 and was escorted out. He pleaded guilty to trespassing and paid another fine.

Geez, I wouldn't want this rager/damage maker and trespasser on my property either. How many more times do they need to tell th... [ More ]

Comment #4

tiggs95 — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:19:49 GMT

I don't go to Casinos and had no idea they had this law?..I guess they can make up any rule they want by the looks of it..I have a cousin who lives in Tucson and we was out there about 20 years ago and it was HOT!!!..

Comment #3

bomberos — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:19:06 GMT

Yeah, they love taking it but they hate giving it back. That goes for ALL of them.

Comment #2

joker831 — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:12:12 GMT

Absolute bull snip . I would burn the place to the ground just out of spite. Another example of Casino Law . Similar thing happened to me in Las Vegas about 6 years ago. I was playing blackjack at Ceaser's Palace, and because I hit a very lucky streak they accused me of counting cards. They gave me back what I bought in for - $1200 - but they kept all the money that I won from playing -$11,000. I was also told by the head of thier security that if they saw me at a blackjack table in there I woul... [ More ]

Comment #1

truecritic — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:31:37 GMT

I can understand the ruling but it doesn't say if the casino gave him back his money that he had when he walked in? I don't see where they would have the right to take money from someone that is banned - based on the fact that he can't come in and win any money. It would only be correct they can't take any money as well.

OTOH, if he would have won anything less than the amount for a W-2, he could have walked out richer and nobody would have known the difference.

Do the same rules apply in... [ More ]

Iowa court says man can't collect casino winnings

Lottery Post — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:43:54 GMT

A man who won more than $9,000 at an Iowa casino can't collect his winnings because he was banned from the casino 10 years earlier, the state Supreme Court ruled Friday.

The court found that Prairie Meadows Racetrack and Casino in Altoona had the authority to withhold winnings from a person who had been involuntary excluded.

The case involved Troy Blackford, who won $9,387 on May 5, 2006. Because of the size of the jackpot, Prairie Meadows had to issue a W-2 immediately for tax purposes.... [ More ]