Couple, son charged in Detroit illegal lottery

Comment #38

rdgrnr — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:48:33 GMT

I'm just concerned about your health Twinkster, both physically and mentally.

I wish you'd just take off the codpiece/oxygen mask for a few minutes and relax, maybe with one of those Smoothies you like so much.

You know, the Fruit Smoothies? The real Fruity ones

Comment #37

Daveyl — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:35:53 GMT

Boy, you've really gone off the deep end, haven't you? We're starting to detect a mental problem with you, rdgrnr. The term Delusional might not be strong enough. You're a certifiable nut case. Ask your doctor to increase the potency of your prescription, and repost within a week.

Comment #36

rdgrnr — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:04:44 GMT

I hope you washed that codpiece in boiling hot water and bleach Twinkletoes, you don't know where's he's been, for goodness sakes

Comment #35

Daveyl — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:49:55 GMT

Now you're delusional. I thought you were just plain dumb. My apologies. Delusional people don't know how stupid they sound. Dumbbells know how stupid they sound, but they're too dumb to engage in intelligent conversations. Just take those pills, and everything will be okay. Oh, and try to stay off the sauce, too, rdgrnr...

Comment #34

rdgrnr — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:45:10 GMT

Well then just call him back if he's so important to you but I'm telling you Twinkletoes, Tad is no good for you. He's a user.

And this new habit you've got of going around town wearing his codpiece like an oxygen mask is absolutely ridiculous

Comment #33

Daveyl — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:15:32 GMT

Here's a good Tennessee joke:

A Californian, a Washingtonian and a Tennessee hick were walking in the forest. As the sun set, they searched for a place to stay. The group came upon a smal farmhouse, and knocked on the door.. The owner eyed the men, and advised them that one would have to sleep in the barn. The Californian volunteered. A short time afterward, a knock came at the door. It was the Californian. I can't sleep. There's..like...animals in there making noise. The Washingtonian took h... [ More ]

Comment #32

Daveyl — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:01:43 GMT

Atrocious ? It's called the TRUTH, you ignorant buffoon! Is there an award in Tennessee for being stupid? You're so moronic, it's amazing anyone would allow you access to their computer (Perhaps you sneak into the office at night, when the nurses at the 'hospital' are sleeping...) Take your anti-stupid pills like the doctor says, and maybe he'll give you a sucker.

Comment #31

rdgrnr — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 02:10:52 GMT

I know you don't mean these atrocious things you're saying about me lil' davey.

It's Tad, isn't it?

He's left you, hasn't he?

I told you little guy but you wouldn't listen. I told you he was no good for you from the beginning, but no, you knew it all, didn't you?

And now, here you are -------------------------

While Tad is talking baby talk to Bruce ------------------------------------------------

And you sit home alone with only his codpiece to remember him by.

Well, may... [ More ]

Comment #30

time*treat — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:47:29 GMT

I'm rooting for the mice.

They should be able to keep all the cheese they earn.

Comment #29

Daveyl — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:17:54 GMT

Rdgrnr, it's called Running the Numbers idiot. Rio Linda is full with ex-Tennessee residents, so I can understand your reference (We had to put them downwind from Sacramento, if you know what I mean...) You are a remarkably idiotic person, rdgrnr. I think you should cease posting, because you just look more idiotic every time I read something you post. You are an absolute moron, rdgrnr.

Comment #28

Coin Toss — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:19:44 GMT

I'm a junior, same name as my father. I was home on leave in the Army when New Jersey the TV news said the atate approved the lottery. The phone rang within minutes, and they guy on the phone, thinking I was my fater, said, If you wanna play wid da state go ahead, but don't forget us and we ain't gonna make you pay any taxes on any wins. Ciao.

True story.

Comment #27

rdgrnr — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:20:33 GMT

Thanks EddessaKnight, appreciate it.

Comment #26

eddessaknight — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:31:34 GMT

@Hermnus 104, et al-

History bears this out-

Remember the Revnuers chasing the ole monnshiners???

It;s still the same old cat mouse game

EddessaKnight

Comment #25

Coin Toss — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 06:08:22 GMT

This is how the game you now know as Pick 3 originated. The bet was a nickel. It didn't pay $250 back then but it was called playing policy . It started in the ghettos and fortunes were made.

The Outfit (AHEM!) saw those fortunes being made and got in on the act and even bigger fortunes were made. Then they took it over.

Here's some info from WikiPredia:

Numbers game

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Jump to: navigation, search

Cut number redirects here; cut number also r... [ More ]

Comment #24

rdgrnr — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:23:40 GMT

Actually, to people who have actually been around it, it was called numbers running or running numbers.

Calling it Running the Numbers is like calling beer drinking Drinking the Beer.

Which is kinda goofy.

Are you from Rio Linda

Comment #23

Daveyl — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 03:06:46 GMT

This type of gaming was called Running the Numbers . It has been around for a long time, though state-sanctioned gambling has probably put a big dent in their profits.

Comment #22

eddessaknight — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 00:27:07 GMT

When gamblers talk with each other a nickel bet is $5 and a 50-cent bet is $50. But, if this was a court document with the court talking instead of a quote from the participants it would be cents... however it may be a quote from the players.

If it is a lottery, it is usually set up with the house getting half of the proceeds, so the bookie would make half of whatever is bet the same as the state of Detroit does. In California they keep 2/3 and give out 1/3 but even that 1/3 is only paid... [ More ]

Comment #21

charmed7 — Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:55:23 GMT

I agree mjwinsmith, Its been around so many years, and winnings went back into every days needs.

when u think of 25,000 thats not alot of money for a small business, nothing compare to Bernie Madoff, look how

many years they took to unfold his operations.

Comment #20

HaveABall — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:14:23 GMT

I wonder what this family's 3 members have been doing since that search date, way back in 2007

Comment #19

Stack47 — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:22:30 GMT

The bookies offered $600 to $1 using the same Pick-3 number from the state lottery drawing and gave $6 worth of bets for $5. I know they took a quarter bet where you could win $150 and may have even booked dime or nickel bets too. I never heard of anyone complaining about not getting paid their winnings or told to come back later like some of the state lottery retailers often tell winners.

Comment #18

mjwinsmith — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:06:30 GMT

You've got it right; there were numbers runners and players long before the so-called state lotteries got into the business. They made it ILLEGAL (Government) so that the little guys could no longer do it and they (Government) could make all the money and TAX it.

Hey, it was private business, Capitalizism in its purist form, except they weren t paying taxes on the winnings. However, I might point out that the winnings were going right back into the economy by the players, either by them spend... [ More ]

Comment #17

rdgrnr — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:16:28 GMT

Yeah, that's it and it's still around.

A lot of people have more faith in the crime syndicate than in government and you can't blame them.

Comment #16

pcurtis — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:13:49 GMT

Was that Rebecca Paul from the TN lottery they caught lol.

Comment #15

savagegoose — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:37:04 GMT

isnt that the numbers racket you hear about in all the 20's crime movies,5 and 10c bets all going to the 1 boss.

last 3 digits on the stock market i think the pick 3 numbers where based on but my memeories gtting vague.

Comment #14

Hermanus104 — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:07:00 GMT

Or, put more simply by my dad, Don't steal. The Government hates competition.

Comment #13

rdgrnr — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:51:22 GMT

That's basically what I was saying in a tongue in cheek kinda way.

It was always illegal, not to protect the consumer but because the government wasn't getting a piece of the action.

Now they got the whole ball o' wax and don't want any competition.

What they call crime for everybody else is a lucrative business for the government.

Comment #12

Littleoldlady — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:35:33 GMT

You must be very young..the games in one form or another have been around for years. I played them also. almost every state had some kind of numbers game. It was a game that gave the poor man a chance to win. To me they paid off better than the state lotteries and it didn't cost much to bet.

Comment #11

iGlenn — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:19:23 GMT

I've never heard of a lottery game where you can just bet 10 cents.

Comment #10

tlady4 — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:02:25 GMT

I am sure that SCEL will be nabbing their crooks when everbody open back up for business this week.

They would be upset to learn that someone is actually paying out money beacuse the numbers are falling in the states where they place their bet on the number.

It doea make the SCEL look bad.

SCEL need to be heavily fines and Imprisoned. Not the bookie.

Comment #9

LANTERN — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:52:54 GMT

I wonder which game or games they were using.

Comment #8

tlady4 — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:48:54 GMT

No it is not more to this story we do the same thing everyday! and it only takes a couple of minutes to put your numbers in. Most people play the same numbers everyday so they just copy them and date the slip or you write your own and have them ready when you get there. We bet 10 cents but it only pay 7 to 1

Comment #7

time*treat — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:47:28 GMT

Well, that's why it's ill-eagle -- the gov't can't filch a piece of the action (in exchange for doing exactly NONE of the work), you get shut down.

Comment #6

CutlassBob — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:32:13 GMT

I'm glad i did not know these folks. 70 years old, proubly trying to supplement their social security and health care. You would think the elderly would be more wise than this.

I too believe more people will be going down!

Cuff em' and Stuff em' Roscoe P. Coltrane.

Cutla$$Bob

Comment #5

truecritic — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:19:30 GMT

Charged? Crooks?

Sounds like they payout much better than State Lotteries - I bet they don't make you go through the drudgery of filing tax forms either. Give me that lottery, I'll bet with both hands

Comment #4

rdgrnr — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:12:47 GMT

The Tennessee Lottery will be glad to hear about these crooks being nabbed.

They would be devastated to see anybody cheated out of money by an unscrupulous lottery scam.

It would make the whole industry look bad.

I'm sure they will demand heavy fines and maximum prison sentences.

Comment #3

iGlenn — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:55:34 GMT

Who bets just a nickel? If 100 bet $.05 then the bookie (or illegal lottery) would only bring in $5 and it would probably take almost an hour (depending on the accounting system) just to log the bets into the books. $5 is simply not worth an hours worth of time with an operation like this. There is more to this story.

Comment #2

sully16 — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:54:25 GMT

Seems to me more people should be charged.

Comment #1

rdgrnr — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:31:25 GMT

Wow, I wonder what the odds were on that nickel bet for $250.

Couple, son charged in Detroit illegal lottery

Lottery Post — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:22:43 GMT

They went searching for drugs, but discovered a major gambling operation instead.

A federal judge in Detroit today unsealed a criminal complaint detailing a large-scale, multi-state gambling operation allegedly run by an elderly Detroit couple that for decades has operated out of coney island restaurants, storefronts and homes in the Detroit area.

According to the complaint, federal agents stumbled upon the gambling operation in 2007 when they went to execute a search warrant at a Farmingt... [ More ]