Some Baptists want Texas Lottery Commission shut down

Comment #43

rdgrnr — Fri, 04 May 2012 19:35:05 GMT

Preacher man talkin' on TV

Puttin' down the rock and roll

Wants me to send a donation

Cuz he's worried about my soul

He said Jesus walked on the water

And I know that is true

But sometimes I think that preacherman

Would like to do a little walkin' too

But I ain't asking nobody for nothin'

If I cant get it on my own

If you don't like the way I'm livin'

Ya just leave this long haired country boy alone

~Charlie Daniels

I don't believe it's the Baptist peo... [ More ]

Comment #42

lot-to man — Fri, 04 May 2012 17:43:21 GMT

I choose my numbers from the obituaries, but only if the deceased are 59 years or younger. What a way to win some money because I have won some, but not enough to retire. The Baptists play Bingo, so why are they against the Lottery

Comment #41

Cletu$2 — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:57:54 GMT

You think that was funny?Well,try this one on for size.I have an Aunt and two cousins that are Mormons.Bet you can't guess what they do for fun.Well,I'll tell you.They go to funerals.Not just funerals of people that they knew,but complete strangers.They read the obituary column in the local newspaper and if a person doesn't have any relatives,they will show up for the funeral.I guess they figure that the preacher needs to preach to someone

Comment #40

libra926 — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:17:05 GMT

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Comment #39

Kumo — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:34:03 GMT

I guess I'll have to ask my wife about my gambling and my Sailor's mouth, lol! I've got a couple of Mormon ancestors back in the family tree, but the majority of my line is Catholic, Methodist and Puritan colonists. I've never been able to just take that the world was just created 6,000 years ago as fact, but I do not think that we just evolved here without divine intervention. Something seems to be missing in both creationism and evolution. My personal hypothesis is both will eventually be conn... [ More ]

Comment #38

Coin Toss — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 04:45:29 GMT

When the casino business expanded to river boat casinos in the South and Midwest a lot of church groups were opposed to the boats.

As it turned out the concern was they were worried about competition with their bingo games (OK, not Baptists in this case, but still...).

My wife and I went to a different church than swe normally do one sunday morning and this one guy was having a fit because he had stopped to gas up his car and the clerk asked him if he wanted a lottery ticket. He didn't lik... [ More ]

Comment #37

Seattlejohn — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 02:03:32 GMT

Some people just never learn. Haven't these churchgoers ever heard of prohibition? Yup, self-righteous types just like them thought they'd eliminated what they saw as an evil by what they thought was shutting it down. Only, what they actually did was to make it more popular, and create a billion dollar organized crime revenue source (and helping the Mafia become a major cancer on society). Shutting down the lottery just means that players will either play out of state lotteries (increasing the p... [ More ]

Comment #36

rdgrnr — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 01:35:02 GMT

I heard they wanna put a parking lot there.

Don't quote me on that though.

Comment #35

pumpi76 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 04:49:35 GMT

i know that people in Texas play less lottery than in other states, for example the state of Georgia generates: 2 billion years ago and georgia has half the population as the State of Texas...Texas should had been reaching: $4 billion in revenue 5 to 6 years ago...But still that shouldnt be need to shut down the Texas state lottery...

but since most revenue come from scratchoffs and i am assuming they are expensive scratchoffs...

not texas...

Comment #34

pumpi76 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 04:03:26 GMT

why will they want to shut down Texas State Lottery

Comment #33

Cletu$2 — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:18:04 GMT

I have a couple of aunts that belong to the Mormon church.According to them you don't have to give up your rum,coffee or tea.You would just be known as a jack Mormon if you consumed these beverages.

Comment #32

Kumo — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 03:13:05 GMT

My Wife is LDS so I am able to see things from a unique perspective, especially since I am not LDS. While it is recommended that they do, members of the church are not forced into giving a tithe. It just means that they do not get to keep specific privledges. However not giving a tithe does not prevent members from attending religious services, recreational church sponsored events (Chili Cookoffs, Pot Luck Dinners, etc.), or from recieving financial or food assistance. During the time that we've... [ More ]

Comment #31

HoLeeKau — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:45:23 GMT

Mormons don't ask for money until you join their church. After you're a member, they demand it. You can't be a member in good standing unless you're giving 10% of your income in tithe.

Utah has never had a lottery. They want all the extra money going to the Mormon church, not into the state education system.

Comment #30

RedStang — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:40:05 GMT

They would take a lotto winners donations in a heartbeat.

Comment #29

Brisco — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:13:50 GMT

I also wanted to say my pastor is a great guy. He takes a small salary and lives humbly. Despite his small means he is generous with his money and leads by example. He doesn't hold people up to the standard he lives by. But he does encourage us and lift us up.

Tithing is an old testament word. The people back then actually had many other financial obligations to the temple beyond titihing and manditorily gave way above 10% in addition to their freewill offerings.

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Comment #28

Brisco — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:52:12 GMT

I think the most salient point they make is about whether the lottery has provided a real revenue increase or just replaced other revenue sources.

I have always thought of it like this. The lawmakers come and tell us they are going to give us MORE money for education if we have the lottery. They tell us the money is marked for education. That's great. But that is not enough for them not to scam the taxpayers. Legally, the law makers have to spend the lottery revenue on education, however they... [ More ]

Comment #27

Mil$Winner! — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:16:38 GMT

, most of the Baptist folks I know are just regular down to earth people.

As a side note: while I definitely don't agree with the Baptist's position here, all people are allowed to try to influence public policy, regardless of their religious beliefs. They've phrased their position in secular terms here. They've said they don't like the lottery because it preys on the poor and caters to impulse purchases. They haven't said anything about their doctrinal beliefs, so their religious belief... [ More ]

Comment #26

Lucky Loser — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:43:24 GMT

This is what I'm getting at. I know people in other states that win very frequently...and the larger prizes at that! It's not hard for these people to walk into a store and drop $20 total on tickets and at least get their money back, or, most of it. This is what it's all about...rewarding the players because without them, there is no successful lottery at all.

L.L.

Comment #25

Lucky Loser — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:39:15 GMT

Kinda vague here...please be more specific on what's not right.

L.L.

Comment #24

TERRY281 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:23:31 GMT

Thats Not Right At All

Comment #23

Piaceri — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:23:28 GMT

My Mom's family is Southern Baptists. I am Catholic (Mom converted), but spent many a summer with my cousins at their vacation bible school. Being a heathen Catholic provided lots of summer fun with them. :D They are a very good, honest, hard working, God fearing family, and they know how to throw a good party. And I'd be willing to bet most of them play the lottery now and again. It's a few bad apples that show the more extreme side now and again. Not bad people, but people who just take things... [ More ]

Comment #22

haymaker — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:13:35 GMT

sunset laws are good, now combine them w/ term limits and we got it going.

Comment #21

rdgrnr — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:11:12 GMT

I don't think we should be painting all Baptists with that same broad brush. 99% of 'em are good, decent, honest people who mind their own business.

It's just some of the Preachers that sometimes tend to be zealots and busybodies. I've had run-ins with 'em my own self about drinking and serving alcohol at public events in my area. They can be very stubborn. Even when I tell them that Jesus drank alcohol and even made alcohol out of water when they ran out of it at a wedding party.

But don... [ More ]

Comment #20

Lucky Loser — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:10:15 GMT

I can respect every single one of these opinions as we're purposely and rightfully designed to all think differently on all matters. However, in the end, when a state as large as Texas still has approximately the same overall prize payouts as states reasonably smaller (less populated), I see a big problem. More money going in should equal a parity of outgoing prizes per dollar spent...and there isn't. Five people can go into a corner store purchasing all high dollar ($20 or up) scratch-offs and... [ More ]

Comment #19

Piaceri — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:08:52 GMT

As one of those Bitter Clingers who enjoys the lottery, I say hands off my lottery, Bible Thumpers!

PS - love the sunset laws in Texas, and loved hearing the sunset commission is in favor of continuing the lottery.

Comment #18

savagegoose — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:57:26 GMT

yeah they'll build baptist schools.

Comment #17

JonnyBgood07 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:06:28 GMT

I've been saying that for years..

About $1 billion a year from the lottery goes into a public education fund, after prize money, retail commissions and other expenses.

..are the baptists ready to assume that tab for the schools

Comment #16

dpoly1 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:36:01 GMT

ROTFLOL!

that'l teach'em to be violent ...........

Comment #15

Lucky SOB — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:57:48 GMT

there wont be any one left on earth if you did that

Comment #14

rdgrnr — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:49:24 GMT

I say we kill all the violent people.

Comment #13

dpoly1 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:09:22 GMT

Christian Bashing is very popular these days ............... but that is OK for Progressives , because they get to decide what is Hate Speech ..........

Comment #12

meetoo — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:00:18 GMT

I stopped going to churches years ago because the various one's I attended all focused primarily on one thing...giving money to the church. So then I started watching the line up on TV...they preach really good, get me all excited and then the sermon ends and the commercials begin...send some money and we will give you our new CD or DVD or book or holy water or prayer cloth or some other mess. The only one's that seem sincere are the Jehovah Witnesses that go around the neighborhood....they have... [ More ]

Comment #11

dpoly1 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:18:25 GMT

Thank you for your most thoughtful and respectful response!

This is the kind of respectful and stimulating dialogue that is lacking today! Instead of attacking me, you rebut my assertions respectfully. I am impressed

Comment #10

Boney526 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:19:59 GMT

dpoly1, I believe your logic is flawed.

I don't think most people have a problem with them expressing their views, but dissent because the Baptists very readily attempt to use the arm of government to impose their values on other people. Drunk Driving is already illegal, and so as far as alcohol is concerned, an attempt to ban it (which was already done) would be going too far, and is an imposition of force (by the government).

Not to say that a drunk driver killing isn't an imposition... [ More ]

Comment #9

dpoly1 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:13:05 GMT

Just because they are expressing their religious beliefs, doesn't mean that these things will happen!

I am not sure why people get so upset with Baptists expressing Baptist Beliefs!

I guess that Baptists are OK with some people as long as the Baptists don't act like Baptists ...........

As far as Alcohol is concerned, I do believe that many more people are killed by drunk drivers, than are killed by Baptists .............. just a guess ...............

If like Alcohol, don't impose YO... [ More ]

Comment #8

Dizz — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:57:27 GMT

The Baptists want alcohol abolished also.

Apparently, it chaps their hide to know how much people are spending on lotto, rather than GIVING it to THEIR churches.

As far as preys on the poor and caters impulse buys with scratch offs ..... See, I find this insulting because I cant say that ive EVER bought something that I didnt want. If a clerk asks do you have your ticket? The Lotto is worth a quarter billion? If I dont want one, I say no. duh.

Why why WHY!?!?!? Why do groups want to tak... [ More ]

Comment #7

dpoly1 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:42:44 GMT

Hitler, Mao Stalin were not religious ............ Progressives are the most evil

Comment #6

hearsetrax — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:29:52 GMT

95% of all evil in the world is in the name religious beliefs

Comment #5

Cletu$2 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:12:14 GMT

If you invited the Jehova Witnesses into your home the reason they didn't ask for money was because they were in shock..nobody ever invited them in before and they were at a loss for words.

Comment #4

dopey7719 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:27:03 GMT

Comment #3

brittkimsdad — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:00:28 GMT

Baptists contend the lottery was sold to Texans 20 years ago as a voluntary, non-regressive way to raise money, but instead it preys on the poor and caters to impulse purchases ....

Gotta love those hypocrites ... yeah, try not paying your tithings in the Baptist Church and you'll see who preys on who. When the Baptist Church opens up their financial books for all to see, then I'll consider their commentary as credible, otherwise, stop trying to legislate YOUR morality onto others. If you... [ More ]

Comment #2

Lucky Loser — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:45:40 GMT

In all honesty, Texas does need to increase the odds, and, the amount of wins on scratch-offs. When I look around at other smaller states which seem to have many more frequent winners, I get upset with Texas because we're the largest state and should be doing it much bigger with our own people.

L.L.

Comment #1

QuietMoney — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:30:51 GMT

It's not the lottery that is keeping Americans down, it's the slave wages that we are paid.

Some Baptists want Texas Lottery Commission shut down

Lottery Post — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:17:03 GMT

As lawmakers look at whether the Texas Lottery Commission is operating effectively, influential Baptists are suggesting the lottery shouldn't merely be tweaked. They want it abolished.

Ask the pertinent questions. Has the lottery fulfilled its promise? My answer would be 'no,' said Suzii Paynter, director of the Baptist Christian Life Commission, in an interview Friday.

Baptists contend the lottery was sold to Texans 20 years ago as a voluntary, non-regressive way to raise money, but inst... [ More ]