COMPUTERIZED DRAWING GLITCH STRIKES ARIZONA LOTTERY

Comment #202

jamella724 — Sun, 15 Sep 2013 09:18:14 GMT

They can provide the remedy for the affected tickets, how about the affected views of people about the lottery? I wonder what kind of remedy they can offer to make players trust the lottery game? They have to make sure that the computer will not have any malfunctioning before the drawings, for sure their technician have any suggestions for this.

Comment #201

belle$star3! — Thu, 29 Aug 2013 07:53:43 GMT

FOR SURE . . . Computerized drawings should be banned

Comment #200

Farmgirl — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:44:00 GMT

I'm sorry but they didnt like what I had to say. They don't think it can happen to their system and I hope not. It's just very odd. I called the 502-560-1500 number.

Comment #199

rdgrnr — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 21:11:06 GMT

I don't know who you talked to but the people at the Kentucky Lottery are very nice, helpful and very professional about helping people.

Comment #198

str8ca$hhomie — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:56:12 GMT

It was never brought to the clown's attention that he could win the Mega Millions Lottery, otherwise he would have played.

Stay Tooned

Comment #197

mypiemaster — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 02:35:02 GMT

Welcome aboard Homie. Hey wait a minute...Homie don't play

Comment #196

str8ca$hhomie — Sun, 25 Aug 2013 07:02:50 GMT

Greetings to All,

I have been a longtime guest here; first time member of the Lottery Post. I hope that my posts and/or comments will be worthy of your attention. I have been following the reported numbers glitch (?) out in the State of Arizona. This is very troubling to me as I am sure as well to others.

Perhaps a seasoned member here can tell me:

1. Is the Arizona State Lottery run by a private company?

2. Does the privatetization of State Lotteries breed the installation of RNG

Comment #195

Farmgirl — Sat, 24 Aug 2013 20:39:57 GMT

I don't know that they publish test. But they were very hateful when I told them about the situation. Guess, I'll just wait and see how long it goes on.

Comment #194

Stack47 — Sat, 24 Aug 2013 19:46:25 GMT

Some states might just turn on the machines before the live drawings to make sure all the mechanical parts are working properly. Lots of drawings show all ten balls dropping into the machine before the forced air is turned on. Which balls ended up in the top of the tube during the mechanical test are irrelevant to the test and not recorded. It might not even be the same set of balls used for the real drawing.

It looks like Texas is testing more for bias than a mechanical malfunction and are r... [ More ]

Comment #193

RJOh — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:14:02 GMT

We the people take a stand to tolerate this nonsense every time we buy a ticket.

Comment #192

Goteki54 — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:41:33 GMT

For the Arizona Lottery to say that using a computer to draw the numbers is laughable beyond approach. I don't see how ball machines are more expensive to operate then a computer. If I lived in Arizona, I would be very wary of playing. When people lose trust in the integrity of the game, the game eventually dies. It took the freaking players to figure out that something was out of whack not the people who's job it is to make sure that the game runs smoothly.

Comment #191

brittkimsdad — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:39:29 GMT

Does Kentucky publish their pre-draw tests?

I play multiple state lotteries when I travel, and I will say one good thing about Texas, at least they have the pre-test draws available for public consumption. At least that way, you can see if numbers are showing up in certain positions. States that don't publish these results, IMHO, are stacking the odds even MORE in their favor.

The way I see it, the state agencies and the politicians want to keep promising more and more services to secur... [ More ]

Comment #190

Farmgirl — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:54:17 GMT

I am new to site, but if you check out Ky lottery payout,since this number 5 is missing in 3 slot it is low or I would think. Except for when 2134 for which I had thank goodness. Maybe it's just bad luck of draw

Comment #189

Stack47 — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:21:40 GMT

I understand your point about patterns developing and watching the numbers in your pattern being drawn during the tests, but you may find had you included past test results in your analysis, the same pattern developed in the test results and more likely to hit there because more numbers are drawn. If the test are being conducted to insure the drawings are as random as possible, it's difficult making a case that because of the tests, the real drawing isn't predictable.

Farmgirl mentioned the d... [ More ]

Comment #188

Stack47 — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:44:47 GMT

8958 was drawn on July 17 so I'm assuming you're including both drawings. Without analyzing the game history it's difficult to say whether this is an anomaly or an occurrence that's likely to happen over long drawing periods. A couple years ago the pick-3 straight combination 023 went almost 12,000 drawings both day and evening without being drawn. Since Kentucky is a live ball drawing, I doubt it's because the ball marked 5 is not in the machine. They were probably kidding when they said it may... [ More ]

Comment #187

Farmgirl — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:30:44 GMT

Kentucky lottery pick 4 hasn't had a 5 in 3 slot in over 60 drawings. When I seen this I called Ky lottery asked if could be same problem they said it may never be drawn again.

Comment #186

MonEl — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 03:57:18 GMT

Maybe we are lazy and or we don't want to win that bad after all.

Comment #185

MonEl — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 03:49:42 GMT

Why don't you fully read that blog entry? It is about North Carolina a state that has pre-draws, post draws and whatever else.

https://www.lotterypost.com/blogentry/82133

Comment #184

onlymoney — Fri, 23 Aug 2013 03:18:38 GMT

No it's no a theory. I see it as a fact. Just because you can't see it doesn't make it a theory. The idiotic excuses raises many red flags and justifies it as BS. Again, please point out the specifics I pointed out and dispute them one by one instead of generalizing. I refuse to re-write everything I've written so far. people have a bad habit of NOT addressing specific issues I've made, and i have no time to babysit them.

Comment #183

RJOh — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 22:12:43 GMT

Comment #182

NUMONEYNIJAS — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:27:41 GMT

Hey it works if you work it

Comment #181

jimjwright — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:41:16 GMT

Here are some other games with digits missing:

Arkansas Cash 3 Midday, Position 1, Digit 7 64 games out

Arkansas Cash 3 Evening, Position 3, Digit 6 62 games out

Florida Cash 3 Evening, Position 2, Digit 7 62 games out

Kentucky Pick 3 Midday, Position 1, Digit 8 60 games out

Nebraska Pick 3 Evening, Position 1, Digit 3 77 games out

Ohio Pick 3 Midday, Position 1, Digit 7 58 games out

Jimmy

Comment #180

RJOh — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:24:07 GMT

What you are saying is just a theory with no more proof of being true than the theories of those who say checking for pattern trends is a waste of time. In spite of all the tampering players who checked pattern trends discovered the computer wasn't including the numbers eight and nine in all positions and some may have even taken advantage of it.

Comment #179

jimjwright — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:07:58 GMT

Here is a picture that shows that Position 2 Digit 9, and Position 3 Digit 8 and 9 were way over due in that time period.

Arizona Pick 3

Jimmy

Comment #178

PlayToWin47 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:50:19 GMT

I would hope that the entities that run the lotteries do not intentionally rig things, considering that there are just too many people watching for such things ... too easy to get caught. The entire problem with the computerized drawings, unlike the ping-pong-ball drawings, just like the article states, nobody can see what is really happening, until it continues to happen for a length of time.

One problem I have with Arizona's fix, is that not only is it screwing those who may have already th... [ More ]

Comment #177

headcrack — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:52:34 GMT

alert possible max-headrum glitch spotted in new york.....1xx63draws xx6 45 draws xx7 54 draws........... can glitches travel just like numbers......... if this happens more frequently and players stop playing as much.. there will be changes... heads will roll... ny glitch alert

Comment #176

Jon D — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:00:46 GMT

I think Cali has the record incident: 6 months uncorrected no-repeat digits.(that players discovered)

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/13/local/me-derby13

These lottery draw people are just state employees following instructions from vendor supplied draw equipment. They are not mathematical analysts and are obviously not checking current results or past draws for statistical anomalies.

Comment #175

peppy007 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:32:23 GMT

Exactly Todd. That is definitely why I dont do computerized drawings. Some people on this forum just dont get it. The lottery is a billion plus yearly industry for a majority of the states and having players confidence in it is of upmost importance if they wanna keep those billions flowing in. And if it means paying a little extra to have a live drawing or investing in extra machines should they break down so be it. The return on this investment is beyond the roof.

Comment #174

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:59:28 GMT

Good nite get some rest

Comment #173

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:04:43 GMT

Unless you're rich, life sucks. PERIOD

Comment #172

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:03:04 GMT

At least 12 times

Comment #171

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:01:55 GMT

Good point. We all meet the impending doom. No one will survive life.

BANG

Comment #170

brittkimsdad — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:59:58 GMT

Guess I should have pre tested it before I clicked

Comment #169

noise-gate — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:54:52 GMT

Panther System huh- l have a solution for that.

Comment #168

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:30:15 GMT

You're missing the point. Patterns and trends are misconstrued because of the tampering, therefore, an accurate assumption is erroneous, thanks to the pretests and post-tests.

Good example using the Panther system. A Certain pair is due based on repeat pairs, but they won't show, why? because the pair that was due has shown in the pretest or post test. Now I'll be chasing that pair for no good reason. I'll end up frustrated because that pair already showed up in a pretest or post test. Maybe,... [ More ]

Comment #167

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:18:03 GMT

Nope, no way to change a rating. It was meant to be.

Comment #166

RJOh — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:15:22 GMT

If that's true why aren't more players who claim they really want to win learning how to program or use Excel

Comment #165

MonEl — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:09:46 GMT

A person who can make programs and or Excel workouts, could make one that would alert him when one or more lottery patterns are long overdue, just as Paurths has done.

Comment #164

brittkimsdad — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:09:36 GMT

Oh crud!! My rating click was wrong!! I meant to hit 5, not 3!! Mr. Admin, can you fix

Comment #163

brittkimsdad — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:05:48 GMT

All I can say to that is WOW!! That is so many ways wrong ... I hope that the fine folks of NC steer clear of that nonsense ....

Comment #162

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:04:00 GMT

I know.

When people have their mind set into place, it's almost impossible to get through to them. You saw how Ronnie was digging so hard to justify the amount of pre-tests.

Sometimes I think it's a defense mechanism that's gone awry. Why? Why defend such nonsense? who knows, they must have their agendas for some reason. They only know why.

Comment #161

Tenaj — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 03:42:30 GMT

I highest I've known NC to do is 19.

Comment #160

noise-gate — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 03:36:34 GMT

Buying faulty tickets as you put it Ronnie is not part of the game. Everyone who purchases a lottery ticket is under the impression that their ticket could be the winning one. No-one sells losing tickets anymore that a convenient store should be selling faulty tickets.

Who do you know would saunter up to the counter and say Give me $5.00 worth of faulty tickets

Comment #159

Tenaj — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 03:35:30 GMT

Pre/Post test draws are necessary onlymoney, all 19 of them.

Comment #158

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 03:21:58 GMT

Not really, because as I said earlier it doesn't matter who wins and who doesn't win and getting faulty tickets is part of the gamble a player takes when he buys a ticket.

Comment #157

noise-gate — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 03:18:03 GMT

l got to wondering: What if the playing public did not alert the lottery Officials to this glitch- would they* officials- have just gone about doing what they always do, thinking nothing is wrong?

Since when is the playing public supposed to alert officials about a game they supposed to be managing with integrity? Are they not the ones who should have caught this before it hit the fan

Comment #156

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 03:09:33 GMT

D 23 is D powerball 2 times in a row.

Wed, Aug 21, 2013 30-40-42-46-48, Powerball: 23?Prize Payouts

Sat, Aug 17, 2013 18-21-46-54-56, Powerball: 23?Prize Payouts

Comment #155

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 03:07:44 GMT

yeah like to try shot it 9 times before i need to like the predraws

Comment #154

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 03:04:53 GMT

9 times is more dan enogh.......take it 2 D chooting range and choot D target bulls eye.

Comment #153

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 03:01:16 GMT

i bought a gun last year in texas but i never had to shot it yet it will shot 9 times then thats it

Comment #152

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:57:39 GMT

Everyone has a gun in D car.

Comment #151

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:56:02 GMT

you don't wanna sleep in your car there people out there

Comment #150

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:53:23 GMT

Go 2 sleep in D car,,,,,,,, havning a camper is BETTER.

Comment #149

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:51:53 GMT

shocking

do they have

Comment #148

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:40:33 GMT

I like the rest stops on the highways.

Comment #147

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:36:26 GMT

i like driving on the new highways that we are building from our lottery money

Comment #146

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:34:08 GMT

If we all start thinking about our ticket purchases as a donation, we will stop complaining about losing.

Comment #145

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:34:08 GMT

everyone makes mistakes that's how you learn

Comment #144

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:32:11 GMT

Right, the computer made a random mistake. So its all still random.

Comment #143

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:30:55 GMT

Computer are become more and more a part of the game. Thay make a few mistakes, but they dont mean to.

Comment #142

mypiemaster — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:30:34 GMT

The kicker is, how random is RANDOM really

Comment #141

mypiemaster — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:28:09 GMT

Yes Sir, it's called playing not to win, not playing to lose.

Comment #140

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:27:23 GMT

I thought you was at the PM making a new pick 3 system

Comment #139

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:27:03 GMT

the computer

Comment #138

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:26:05 GMT

the key is to play them along time i got my ticket for aug 16th - aug 30th

they can't hide forever

Comment #137

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:25:56 GMT

Who left them out

Comment #136

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:24:11 GMT

You won't get logic from a guy who thinks spending a lot of money on the JP game to get a JP win is a good investment for his future. I don't care if someone spends 200 bucks a week to get a JP, but to call it a good investment is nonsense.

Anyways, yes, there should be inspections. once a month check the balls to make sure they haven't deflated. lol. As long as there's a video recording the machine on off hours, no tampering can be done. No excuse can be made then.

And as far as the pre a... [ More ]

Comment #135

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:23:51 GMT

everyone knows it's random they told me that when i called them about the Quick draw game, when they kept leaving the 20's out then they left the 40's out sometimes they leave all the teens out once they left the 30's and 40's and 70's out that is really random

Comment #134

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:22:48 GMT

I think taking the risk of buying faulty tickets is part of the fun. Its ALL a gamble.

Comment #133

mypiemaster — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:17:48 GMT

This is really a hot button topic. We have long suspected that we are being given the shaft, but just can't completely prove it. Then something like this happens, and proves our long held suspicions, and what do they do. They try to minimize your intelligence. Kind of gets your goat.

Comment #132

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:16:10 GMT

State run agencies will always err on the side of caution, and they are allowed to do whatever they want and neither do they care who wins or doesn't win, So 2, 6, 10..... whatever. It makes no difference.

Finally someone noticed the elephant in the room....... computerized draws are saving states money.

Comment #131

brittkimsdad — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:12:31 GMT

You may be right onlymoney , but I'm still waiting for some logic as to why it takes more than 2 pre-tests for any ball machine. I would think that the pre testing is creating a higher risk of failure than the money draws. And I also believe that companies like G-Tech use it as an excuse to charge higher fees to the states. Yes, there must be some testing done, no argument there, but 6 tests, like the Texas Lotto does, is just wrong and it's not just for testing purposes, IMHO.

Comment #130

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:11:38 GMT

So what did you see, a ghost? what? The anticipation is killing me.

Comment #129

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:08:07 GMT

well i can't post it here Todd will yell for posting numbers

but when i was checking my mix match ticket last night 3 of the numbers was in the mega so made me look into the other games and then i seen something

Comment #128

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:06:46 GMT

I believe, (correct me If I'm wrong), he did address that question. He's basically saying that the JP is a long shot and probably not show in the pre and post, but he did say that lower tier prizes might get affected.

Comment #127

brittkimsdad — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:04:42 GMT

You are not addressing the point of the discussion.... explain the logic of the testing. Can you address why it takes 4, 5, 6 tests to make sure a machine will work properly? How about 1 or 2? Using your logic, then that wouldn't make any difference either, right? So why put more wear and tear on a machine and waste taxpayer money? If the odds are so outrageous (which they are), then 1 test should do the trick, right?

And back to the point of the thread, computerized draws is definitely NO... [ More ]

Comment #126

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:03:44 GMT

Can you be a little more pacific

Comment #125

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:02:08 GMT

wow i think i may be on to something looking into the other games for the mega and powerball numbers

check out your states games

Comment #124

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:00:29 GMT

You beat me to the punch. I was just about to say, especially people like ronnie, and others like me, system players who rely on patterns and trends, you'd think he'd realize what he is writing. Patterns get all discombobulated and trends and patterns mean nothing. Why bother playing

Comment #123

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:58:29 GMT

So you are saying that systems players can match all 6 numbers during pre-draws

Comment #122

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:57:48 GMT

Thank you, you get my point.

Comment #121

brittkimsdad — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:54:52 GMT

I believe the strongest point to be made is not so much the winning, but the BS being shoveled out by gutless politicians who use lotteries as a major revenue stream because they don't have a clue how to fix the systems they have broken. Therefore, they rig lotteries in such a way that they make sure they extract as much revenue from the players as possible. I will concede that matching the 6 numbers is a major long shot, but hitting the lower tier prizes become nearly impossible as well. If you... [ More ]

Comment #120

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:52:09 GMT

i'll take that bet, i bet if he keeps doing that hes gonna wear the hinges off

Comment #119

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:50:47 GMT

No, but I want to make sure it works the next time I open it, when i'm finished with my drink. Who knows, the door could fall off and I'd have to buy another door. That can cost money you know, so it's kind of important.

Comment #118

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:49:17 GMT

or they think you drunk

Comment #117

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:47:37 GMT

Is anyone placing bets on your freezer door

Comment #116

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:47:10 GMT

C'mon, that's not enough, i think it should be 12 before and after, just for good measure. Thanks..

Comment #115

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:45:43 GMT

How could 6 pre-draws possibly create a problem for you? Even if they gave you all 6 draws plus the real one, would you have ever hit all 6 numbers for a big win

Comment #114

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:45:25 GMT

I just went to the kitchen to make myself a vodka drink, but I first opened the freezer door three times to make sure the door worked, got my vodka out, and then opened the freezer door 3 more times to make sure the hinges were still intact.

Then i opened the fridge door 3 times to make sure the door worked properly, got my mixer, poured it into my drink, put the mixer back in the fridge, then opened and closed the fridge door 3 more times to make sure it worked.

It's a good thing I didn't... [ More ]

Comment #113

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:43:08 GMT

Your number is hot as a fire cracker.

Comment #112

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:40:04 GMT

my number havent hit so i thought they was cold

Comment #111

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:39:40 GMT

But they do gather dust.

Comment #110

brittkimsdad — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:39:16 GMT

I totally agree with onlymoney ... it is not TESTING ... it's RIGGING!!!

Don't believe me... explain this nonsense in the Texas Lotto. Is there any rational human being that is going to argue that it takes 6 pre-TESTS to make sure a machine works properly?? Are you kidding me?? I refuse to play that game for that reason only. It's a joke!!

Lotto Texas - Pre-Test Numbers 2013

Date Test# Designated

Machine Designated

Ball

Set Alternate

Machine Alternate

Ball

Set Numb... [ More ]

Comment #109

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:38:59 GMT

i wonder if Todd will warm up his new corvette or just take off

Comment #108

onlymoney — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:38:17 GMT

Well of course. But lottery machines don't run on batteries and in the cold elements.

Comment #107

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:37:34 GMT

I played the number 03 as well as the 20.

Comment #106

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:36:57 GMT

I would have knew.

Comment #105

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:36:29 GMT

i like the number 03 for some reason this week

Comment #104

helpmewin — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:35:14 GMT

your so funny

actually i had another car one time and it sat all winter then the battery died the guy at the auto store said if you not driving the car you should at least go out and start it once in awhile to keep the battery alive who would have knew.

Comment #103

Ronnie316 — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:34:47 GMT

We are lottery official operatives, we get paid to be here. How did you guess