Iraqi's Oregon jackpot raises questions on lottery sales

Comment #48

myturn — Thu, 24 Dec 2015 09:18:04 GMT

How much commission do butler services change players, and how much do they charge winners?

It would be interesting to know

Comment #47

myturn — Thu, 24 Dec 2015 09:11:27 GMT

I am happy but surprised that he got the prize. I have always been skeptical about playing lotteries through middlemen.

I only play directly with lotteries by subscription. I would like to know how much commission the winner was charged

Comment #46

Groppo — Sun, 20 Dec 2015 00:00:53 GMT

I left a post in reply but have since changed my mind about it.

It seems, thanks to allowing these off-shore butler services, wethere they're

legit or not, and allows potentially 7 billion players to make lotto bets.

And what are the odds on hitting the lotto? 1 in 175 million?

I'm hating this world more and more.

Comment #45

Groppo — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:44:32 GMT

I agree with you 100%.

It sounds retaliatory. Something seems dirty about the WHOLE situation.

I'd really like to know what the nationality is of the folks at Binkey's where the alleged ticket was sold? And, like you said, how did it end up half way around the world?

This lottery situation smells like old rotted camel dung.

(and it's not my home. I keep a clean home, here in the U.S.A.)

How do we know this offsite Lotter place is legit?

So, how the heck? And who says the... [ More ]

Comment #44

Mattapan — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:41:32 GMT

I contacted the Attorney General's office here in Mass. in 2014 when I was thinking about signing up for thelotter. Here is a copy of our dialogue, I've substituted Mattapan for my name and AGO for the Paralegal's name. As you can see they weren't very helpful:

From: Mattapan

To: AGO

Sent: June 13, 2014

subject: Online Lottery Concierge Services

Hello AGO,

I am writing to find out the legality of online butler services. There are websites like thelotter and who advertise t... [ More ]

Comment #43

Keno Man — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 01:20:14 GMT

So I guess if I win a big jackpot here in Oregon, I'll have to just sue the state to keep my name anonymous.

Comment #42

Bleudog101 — Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:24:02 GMT

Out of all the replies, this one hit the nail on the head.

Nothing illegal was done plain and simple. I am happy for him and his win regardless of where he calls home.

Wish Congress would repeal parts of that antiquated 1961 forbidding lottery sales over the telephone, so naturally it carried onto electronic means of this day and age. I see they just repealed a 40 year old law allowing the USA to export oil. Honestly don't believe they know the implications or that this law even... [ More ]

Comment #41

dutchdave76 — Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:09:31 GMT

Sounds like sour grapes for alot of us, we can play so many things, he placed his money down

spent the wheel and hit the lotto, good for him, enjoy your life and good luck to you,

Comment #40

gocart1 — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:50:36 GMT

It sucks that people from the U.S. can't buy EURO tickets ...Not everything in the U.S. is perfect but you know what.....I'm so glad I was born,raised and still living here in this great country of the United States of America..

Comment #39

lakerben — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:34:39 GMT

Wow

Comment #38

mypiemaster — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 02:55:33 GMT

Peace

Comment #37

noise-gate — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 01:04:56 GMT

Got you annoyed huh Major?

It is written And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them that trespass against us

Go in Peace MPM.

Comment #36

mypiemaster — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 23:48:02 GMT

Are you old enough, and do you have the means to play the lottery?. Are you still living in Mom's basement and never bothered with high school?. I only ask because your level of comprehension is highly suspect. You appear to be all over the place. ARE YOU OK?. This hysteria is sounding more and more like TOTAL BS.

Comment #35

RJOh — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 20:19:44 GMT

You are lucky you live in the US and can buy a lottery ticket for its regular price and don't have to pay a stranger 3X that price to do it for you. You should be counting your blessings instead of complaining about the fortunes of the folks that have to do that.

You probably don't play any of the Oregon lotteries so you couldn't have won anyway.

Comment #34

lotpot711 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:57:09 GMT

@#$%^ * I may even get BAN from Lottery Post after I posted all this stuff about the Lotter. Will see Lottery Post is US based in and for its people! will seeeeeeeeeee

Comment #33

noise-gate — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:52:28 GMT

.. l posted that statement with tongue in cheek Todd. Your Usamega site does the same thing asking the general public to credit that site should it be used when a winner bags the jackpot. As you said smart marketing. .

Comment #32

lotpot711 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:31:25 GMT

Is Lottery Post owned from Canada or some other parts of the world? If it is it would explains well about the Lotter and its supporters. I cannot find it in the About or the Contact page. Most US players bought the subscription from Lottery Post because it has the most information from US lotteries which is the biggest in the world and this is wonderful for people all over everywhere could use this and benefit from it is wonderful. BUT I want the same right to extend to me if someone else can bu... [ More ]

Comment #31

Todd — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:23:10 GMT

What you call bragging is actually smart marketing. If you owned such a business and managed to sell a jackpot-winning ticket, you would be an absolute fool to not be sure everyone knew about it.

Comment #30

noise-gate — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 18:39:53 GMT

* Out of curiosity l took a gander at this Lotto site that sold the winning ticket to this man from Iraq and they bragging on their blog about their hand in his accomplishment.

Comment #29

savagegoose — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 17:31:52 GMT

I am glad for the guy that thelotter seems legit. if i lived in sopme place that doesnt allow me to buy lottery tickets , who knows, i might be forced to pay their fees. good for him i hope. its all of us with a dollar and a dream can hope for, or in his case, $4 and a dream.

Comment #28

Stack47 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:57:11 GMT

I read a statistic that over 97% of Iraqis are Muslims so it's not really a leap to assume the Oregon lotto jackpot winner from Iraq probably followed Islam. I also read there are 828 million Hindus in India so it's very likely a similar jackpot winner from some regions in India would be a Hindu.

You can call it religious prejudices, but it's just the same old jackpot envy we see when an average American wins a jackpot.

Comment #27

Todd — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:32:00 GMT

Why, yes, actually, when people from foreign countries have won in the past they have been questioned like this. In fact, this Iraqi was provided special dispensation by the Oregon Lottery, allowing him to claim the jackpot anonymously, whereas any US citizen -- or likely anyone from London, Paris, or Tel Aviv -- would not have been afforded the same benefit.

So the goal posts were in fact changed for this guy -- to his benefit.

Progressives are always so quick to point their wagging finge... [ More ]

Comment #26

Bleudog101 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:04:41 GMT

Agree 100%, if one of my English relatives whom I've never met wanted a PB/MM ticket it would be done. I wish the Dept of Justice would turn a blind eye to the 1961 law forbidding sales of lottery tickets over the phone and now I suppose Internet. You know it takes the government years for any progress. Frankly I'm surprised they had to give in and put forms, etc on-line. They had no choice.

As an ACLU member years ago I e-mailed them about this saying I perceive this as a violation of my Fir... [ More ]

Comment #25

sully16 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:58:48 GMT

Stack knows these things, he's a big lottery winner, ask him his secret.

Comment #24

mypiemaster — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:13:59 GMT

You are beating a dead horse. This ONLINE thing is stuck in your head. If your friend/family abroad wants you to buy them tickets{PBALL/MM} and are willing to pay you for your troubles, are you going to say NO?. Like I said before, when you get to My Account, click on Banking and you can see a crapload of ways to pay. I tried to post some stuff but was zapped by ADMIN computer. Stop the hysteria.

Comment #23

mypiemaster — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:27:51 GMT

Enough of this misinformation and hysteria already. Go and read my response to your post at Man in Iraq wins $6.4 million Oregon Lottery jackpot . It is on their website. After you sign up, go to My Account's section and go from there. Some people in the USA are actually members. If you can't sign up, that does not mean that the rest of us can't. When you sign up, you see how you can make a deposit to your account.

Comment #22

Stack47 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 05:51:55 GMT

Comment #21

Stack47 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 05:50:56 GMT

We know someone purchased a large number of Oregon Lotto tickets for snip . at an Oregon Lottery retailer. And a guy from Baghdad, Iraq showed up at Oregon Lottery headquarters with a jackpot winning ticket. The Oregon Lottery didn't sell the ticket online, the ticket wasn't bought online, and from their perception there was nothing different than another lotto winner.

I think US citizen should have that same right if they choose to do that transaction online, I could care less if the person... [ More ]

Comment #20

noise-gate — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 05:40:48 GMT

Ok l will go along with your Conspiracy Theory Stack- btw -These are Kurd women.

and a Kurd Man

Now picture either walking into the Oregon Lottery Office and telling the main guy l have the winning ticket right here- could you please cut me my check....... please? Oh Yes, of course

Comment #19

adobea78 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 05:08:55 GMT

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Comment #18

GARGANTULA — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:50:56 GMT

What an absurd statement...! Wow..! This NY Mr. You Are Fired has really brainwashed you and a small segment of our society with his venom. Now I believe how Jim Jones convinced thousands of people in Guyana to drink cyanide. Those were people like you who believe everything you see or hear from television..! We are doomed..

Comment #17

GARGANTULA — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:28:06 GMT

To me, it looks more odd that a Baghdad, Iraq resident won an Oregon Lotto jackpot and obviously very logical people have questions. The article doesn't mention religion so any assumptions about prejudices is yours.

C'mon Mister...Baghdad is not a place where you'd find Southern Christians...! You know and I know that we have overtly and covertly prejudices in our country..Puhleez, spare me from your assumption theory ....

Comment #16

rgse90 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:08:38 GMT

My only fear is that could our lotteries now support and help terrorist and their causes. I know that there is no way to tell but this really makes me wonder what the hell we are doing here.

Comment #15

lotpot711 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:01:07 GMT

Stack were you another group they pay to go to the next gas station to get that ticket? People with logical minds should know that the transaction was made online and then made by walking into a random deli to get the the measly amount of what the original ticket's worth because it was charged triple, I would gladly pay for that if I was extended the same right and here is why I think US citizen should have that same right if they choose to do that transaction online, I could care less if the pe... [ More ]

Comment #14

Stack47 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:58:33 GMT

Maybe not because there is a possible conspiracy theory; the Oregon drawing is RNG, Tipton sold his self destruct program to someone in Oregon who rigged the drawing so the prize money would go to a terrorist organization (don't let the 20 year payments fool you).

Comment #13

Stack47 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:43:22 GMT

Our prejudices against Muslims show up even at the most unexpected places.

To me, it looks more odd that a Baghdad, Iraq resident won an Oregon Lotto jackpot and obviously very logical people have questions. The article doesn't mention religion so any assumptions about prejudices is yours.

I was stating a fact about being a US citizen's right to purchase online same as all customers and the fact that this business is run frm a different country other than the US and yet selling US lotter... [ More ]

Comment #12

lotpot711 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:29:21 GMT

I was stating a fact about being a US citizen's right to purchase online same as all customers and the fact that this business is run frm a different country other than the US and yet selling US lotteries to everyone else but the US's citizen, funny isn't it? No there was no assumption! Maybe some of you here support and build that website and is benefiting from them too? Just saying it doesn't take much to build a website.

Comment #11

RJOh — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:25:04 GMT

Your assumptions that only citizens of the U.S. visit LP website are wrong, haven't you noticed that many of the posts are from all over the world

Comment #10

lotpot711 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:17:12 GMT

I posted this to the previous article about the Oregon lotto, and yes I did check my source and chatted with someone in the Lotter. And so US laws does not allow its citizen to purchase online why does that courtesy apply to other countries?

The LOtter only allows customers to buy if they ARE NOT from the USA. If you try to register from the states you will not able to get pass log in. I don't know why Lottery Post even put their banner to support them if it's only for foreigners and not for... [ More ]

Comment #9

GARGANTULA — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:06:58 GMT

I wonder if any questions would have been asked if the winner had arrived from London, Paris or Tel Aviv..!Our prejudices against Muslims show up even at the most unexpected places..Give the winner his money and let cry babies keep on crying..! Let us not change goal posts or rules whenever others who we'd prefer not to win - become winners..

Comment #8

MaximumMillions — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:03:12 GMT

I wish they (thelotter) bought the PB and MM tickets in Delaware, I might just pay their fee for anonymity.

Comment #7

music* — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 02:03:25 GMT

Could snip have it correct and be leading us into international lottery play? With all the unknown variables becoming known in the future.

The unintended consequences are mind blowing.

This post has been automatically changed by the Lottery Post computer system to remove inappropriate content and/or spam.

Comment #6

Stack47 — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 01:40:20 GMT

And how on earth would a lottery ticket from Binky's, of all places, end up in the possession of a man from halfway around the world?

I could understand if it was the Wyoming or another relatively new state lottery, but someone at the Oregon Lottery should know about lottery butler services. The legality is interesting because the winning ticket never left the U.S. and the butler service charged their fee up front.

IMO, as for granting anonymity, any future Megabucks jackpot winner now ha... [ More ]

Comment #5

noise-gate — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 01:24:59 GMT

-...This guy won because the game was advertised where he was. He was convinced that he had as much of a chance of winning as people living in Oregon.End of Story.

Comment #4

mypiemaster — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:48:27 GMT

There is nothing questionable about it. A guy walks into the store and purchases some tickets, just like you and I. Before you know it, those nasty politicians with a little p, will try to screw it up for all of us again.

Comment #3

sully16 — Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:25:29 GMT

A successful businessman With his new net worth lol,

I caught that, thanks for the story Todd, clears up some of the mystery. Not all, just some.

Comment #2

RJOh — Sun, 13 Dec 2015 21:53:40 GMT

Maybe it should be legal or an American to set up a butler service for lottery tickets and charge 3X the regular price per ticket, at least the profits could be taxed.

Comment #1

Tialuvslotto — Sun, 13 Dec 2015 21:41:20 GMT

Interesting article. Probably time to update the laws to account for internet sales internationally -- either to permit them or ban them.

Iraqi's Oregon jackpot raises questions on lottery sales

Lottery Post — Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:34:32 GMT

The man from Baghdad showed up unannounced this month in a state office building in Salem, Ore., with a piece of paper in his hand that he said was worth $6.4 million. He politely asked that his name be kept quiet, then told state officials that he had set up a local bank account into which they should deposit money annually. And then he went away, richer and more mysterious than when he arrived.

It was not an ordinary day at the Oregon Lottery.

The story started with small details, lotter... [ More ]